The straw that broke California's back

[Oil exporting People]

Good on California. Best state in the union.

> Has highest poverty rate in the nation
> Has decriminalized HIV spreading
> Is debating merits of banning straws

[Corrian]

They're not even banning them.
You only need ask for one. I don't see it much different than when you ask for extra ketchup packets, or (at Taco Bell) fire sauce or pepper packet or whatever.

At the Taco Bell my sister works at, you don't even need to ask for those. They just have them out to grab.

[Absurdity]

Good on California. Best state in the union.

Absolutely disgusting.

[Geilinor]

Good on California. Best state in the union.

> Has highest poverty rate in the nation
> Has decriminalized HIV spreading
> Is debating merits of banning straws

California doesn't have the highest poverty rate under the national measurement.

[Corrian]

A county north of me banned plastic bags altogether. I wish mine would.

please fucking no.

Please yes. It's not that hard to actually use cloth bags. And before you say you forget them all the time (Something we do too), you would soon learn to not forget them when you freaking go shopping and have nothing to put them in.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Good on California. Best state in the union.

> Has highest poverty rate in the nation
> Has decriminalized HIV spreading
> Is debating merits of banning straws

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes
>HIV isn't a death sentence anymore
>Stupid law but nothing apocalyptic

[Corrian]

I don't even think there should be a charge for plastic bags. They should just no longer exist period.

Uh fite me irl. My cat loves plastic bags more than anything. Especially more than the entire damn room of toys and cat trees.

Then said cat can find a new love.

At least your cat isn't chewing on the plastic.

One of my cats has a weird habit of gumming plastic? Gumming because she kinda has only 4 teeth after a problem she had.

[Corrian]

Good on California. Best state in the union.

> Has highest poverty rate in the nation
> Has decriminalized HIV spreading
> Is debating merits of banning straws

That HIV thing was ridiculous. Can't believe it actually passed.

[Corrian]

> Has highest poverty rate in the nation
> Has decriminalized HIV spreading
> Is debating merits of banning straws

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes
>HIV isn't a death sentence anymore
>Stupid law but nothing apocalyptic

The problem with the HIV law is it was literally like, decriminalizing DELIBERATELY spreading HIV.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes
>HIV isn't a death sentence anymore
>Stupid law but nothing apocalyptic

The problem with the HIV law is it was literally like, decriminalizing DELIBERATELY spreading HIV.

Oh yeah.

That was a shit law.

[Oil exporting People]

That HIV thing was ridiculous. Can't believe it actually passed.

I don't agree with it all, but I can at least understand basic Liberalism and such. California, however, has reached levels of batshit insanity that I think every person able to objectively reason should be able to realize.

[Katganistan]

Indeed. And for me, I bring my own shopping bags, because then I don't have to pay a nickel a bag.

But you're right -- I DO ask for meat or fish to be put into a plastic bag, for food safety purposes. Everything else can go into my shopping bags (with cleaning supplies in a separate bag for obvious reasons).

Don't want your fish or meat to be squeaky clean before you eat it?

Don't want fish or meat leaking over everything. Salmonella and e. coli are not your friend.
Don't want chemicals on food. Aside from the poisoning aspect, it just tastes bad.

[Oil exporting People]

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes

Which is false, if you'd actually review their finances. Even still, that doesn't change nor mollify the fact they have the highest rate of poverty.

>HIV isn't a death sentence anymore

Also false.

>Stupid law but nothing apocalyptic

Which is a strawman, because no one claimed that.

[Geilinor]

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes

Which is false, if you'd actually review their finances. Even still, that doesn't change nor mollify the fact they have the highest rate of poverty.

The highest rate of poverty is if you adjust for cost of living.

[Oil exporting People]

The highest rate of poverty is if you adjust for cost of living.

Indeed.

[Geilinor]

California never decriminalized knowingly spreading HIV. They made it a misdemeanor to bring it in line with most states. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

[Oil exporting People]

California never decriminalized knowingly spreading HIV. They made it a misdemeanor to bring it in line with most states. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

I don't think you understand what decriminalize means.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes

Which is false, if you'd actually review their finances. Even still, that doesn't change nor mollify the fact they have the highest rate of poverty.

>HIV isn't a death sentence anymore

Also false.

>Stupid law but nothing apocalyptic

Which is a strawman, because no one claimed that.

Doubt that


See above posts by me.

As I said: apocalyptic and hysterical.

[Corrian]

California never decriminalized knowingly spreading HIV. They made it a misdemeanor to bring it in line with most states. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

Wait, most states have it that low? I feel almost more like knowingly spreading diseases should all be upped, not tiny little sentences.

[Community Values]

why not sip?

[Fartsniffage]

California never decriminalized knowingly spreading HIV. They made it a misdemeanor to bring it in line with most states. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

Wait, most states have it that low? I feel almost more like knowingly spreading diseases should all be upped, not tiny little sentences.

I can see it now, SWAT teams bursting into chicken pox parties with fists full of child sized plastic handcuffs...

[Oil exporting People]

Doubt that

You are, of course, allowed to doubt whatever you want. Reality, however, is also allowed to point and laugh and then continue on existing.

See above posts by me.

*John Cena voice*

Are you sure about that?

Imagine being this apocalyptic and hysterical over a law against wasteful uses of plastic.

I know it's the cool conservative thing nowadays to clutch pearls at California's state laws, but at this point it's starting to look like anti-regulatory conservative dogma is making contextual thinking difficult... and that's just sad.

[The Black Forrest]

>Brings in more money to the union then it takes in taxes

Which is false, if you'd actually review their finances. *snip*

Source.

[Geilinor]

California never decriminalized knowingly spreading HIV. They made it a misdemeanor to bring it in line with most states. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

I don't think you understand what decriminalize means.

Decriminalization means replacing criminal penalties with civil or administrative ones. That doesn't fit here.

[Oil exporting People]

Source.

Here is IRS Data from 2015, showing total collections from California were $345 Billion. According to the Californian legislature, in 2014 they received $368 Billion in Federal funds.