NATION

PASSWORD

Tide Pod Challenge: How Can We Effectively Protect Teens?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Risottia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 55275
Founded: Sep 05, 2006
Democratic Socialists

Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:15 am

Eclius wrote: how can we effectively protect teens and adolescents from harming themselves?

We just teach them how to read and to recognise hazard symbols. Detergents such as pods are labelled very clearly as dangerous if ingested.
If they insist on doing it, too bad for them. Natural selection at work.

(By the way, adolescents are included into the "teen" set, I guess).
.

User avatar
Risottia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 55275
Founded: Sep 05, 2006
Democratic Socialists

Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:17 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I think this is the first case, that I know of, where people are willing to poison themselves for social validation on a widespread scale.

There was one where the kids were setting themselves on fire, too.

Blame Jan Palach. ;)
.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163943
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:46 am

Liriena wrote:Why is this a thing? Why the heck do American teenagers do weird challenges like these? Is this just overblown media hysteria as usual?

Are you really unfamiliar with the notion of teenagers doing stupid things to impress their friends?
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
The Empire of Pretantia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 39273
Founded: Oct 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:That's not the definition of social darwinism. That's the definition of "Wow, what sort of dumbass takes such an obvious joke seriously?"

Nice try calling me a social darwinist though.

I am pleased when I hit the target, thanks.

You didn't hit the target though. You failed miserably.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
The Fate Series
US politics

User avatar
Minoa
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6082
Founded: Oct 05, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Minoa » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:18 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:More Tide Pod-chan.

I thought names of moe anthropomorphisms usually end with tan, not chan.

But in all seriousness, this is a new low for YouTube in terms of creators jumping on the so-called craze that is basically dicing with death.
Mme A. d'Oiseau, B.A. (State of Minoa)

User avatar
The Empire of Pretantia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 39273
Founded: Oct 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:26 am

Minoa wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:More Tide Pod-chan.

I thought names of moe anthropomorphisms usually end with tan, not chan.

Literally doesn't matter.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
The Fate Series
US politics

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163943
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:30 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Minoa wrote:I thought names of moe anthropomorphisms usually end with tan, not chan.

Literally doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter? What kind of weeaboo are you?
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Deulia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 59
Founded: Sep 08, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Deulia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:35 am

By banning these kinds of degenerate filth from the internet.
Catalunya no és Espanya - North Korea and PRC are not real nations
“I want to say that we live in a world of disposable music, Fast-food music without any content, and I think this could be a victory for music, with people that make music that actually means something. Music is not fireworks. Music is feeling. So let’s try to change this. And bring music back, which is really what matters. - Salvador Sobral
Pro: Traditional values, conservatism, euroscepticism, Janusz Korwin-Mikke, Direct democracy, the Forum for Democracy, Republic of China, Catalan and Basque seperatism
Anti:
Communism, populism, the party cartel in the Netherlands, left-wing liberalism, antifa, socialism, anime-related degeneracies, fast-food music.

An alt of Brilinako

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:08 am

Deulia wrote:By banning these kinds of degenerate filth from the internet.

Hopefully good parenting could stop the idiotic actions of these children without resorting to banning the videos entirely.
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Reploid Productions
Director of Moderation
 
Posts: 30513
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:55 am

Heard on the morning news that Youtube is apparently going to be removing videos showing the Tide Pod challenge, so.... step in the right direction, I guess?
Forum mod since May 8, 2003 -- Game mod since May 19, 2003 -- Nation turned 20 on March 23, 2023!
Sunset's DoGA FAQ - For those using DoGA to make their NS military and such.
One Stop Rules Shop -- Reppy's Sig Workshop -- Getting Help Page
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
Char Aznable/Giant Meteor 2024! - Forcing humanity to move into space and progress whether we goddamn want to or not!

User avatar
The Flutterlands
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15157
Founded: Oct 02, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:56 am

Reploid Productions wrote:Heard on the morning news that Youtube is apparently going to be removing videos showing the Tide Pod challenge, so.... step in the right direction, I guess?

Yeah that is censorship I can get behind...
Last edited by The Flutterlands on Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
Call me Flutters - Minister of Justice of the Federation of the Shy One - Fluttershy is best pony
Who I side with - My Discord - OC Pony - Pitch Black
White, American, Male, Asexual, Deist, Autistic with Aspergers and ADHD, Civil Liberatarian and Democratic Socialist, Brony and Whovian. I have Neurofibromatosis Type 1. I'm also INTJ
Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77
Pros: Choice, Democracy, Liberatarianism, Populism, Secularism, Equal Rights, Contraceptives, Immigration, Environmentalism, Free Speech and Egalitarianism
Con: Communism, Fascism, SJW 'Feminism', Terrorism, Homophobia, Transphobia, Xenophobia, Death Penalty, Totalitarianism, Neoliberalism, and War.
Ravenclaw

User avatar
Aillyria
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5026
Founded: Sep 13, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Aillyria » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:15 am

Humanity gets more idiotic by the day it wouod seem. Hopefully all the retards who participate in this challenge get sick, maybe that'll get it through their thick skulls that laundry pods aren't edible.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

L/R: -5.38 L/A: +2.36 8values: Theocratic Distributist
I am female, Sorelianist, Sufi Muslim, Biracial, Murican
USN Vet, Semper Fortis dirtbags!!!

User avatar
Topoliani
Diplomat
 
Posts: 850
Founded: Aug 19, 2017
Father Knows Best State

Postby Topoliani » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:18 am

Aillyria wrote:Humanity gets more idiotic by the day it wouod seem. Hopefully all the retards who participate in this challenge get sick, maybe that'll get it through their thick skulls that laundry pods aren't edible.

It's not a matter of they don't know it's not edible, they know. It's an issue of peer pressure. The situation boils down to the "If all your friends were jumping off a cliff/if your friends told you, would you?"
Topoliani: A Post-Apoc Medieval Nation in the Levant

I don't use NSstats, nor is this nation a representation of my views.
IC Year: 1210 AD.
Undergoing its third retcon. The third time's the charm, right?

User avatar
Wallenburg
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22873
Founded: Jan 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:19 am

Oil exporting People wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:You can't assume that teenagers know this stuff. Hell, I would not be surprised if tens or even a hundred thousand American adults do not know eating tide pods can kill you.


Given we have a literacy rate of 99% and basic logic dictates not eating things that are non-food, that's a bit of stretch. If we're assuming teenagers are this dumb, nevermind adults, than we've got a whole lot bigger issues to deal with.

A quarter of Americans believe the sun orbits the earth. It isn't an assumption that people are this dumb, it's a fact.]
Chadlai wrote:for gods sake tide, just make the damn things nontoxic

Yes, and let's just make gas stoves not dangerously hot.
Last edited by Wallenburg on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

King of Snark, Real Piece of Work, Metabolizer of Oxygen, Old Man from The East Pacific, by the Malevolence of Her Infinite Terribleness Catherine Gratwick the Sole and True Claimant to the Bears Armed Vacancy, Protector of the Realm

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:26 am

Take away their internet except at the library, school, etc. or at home while a parent is watching. At least do notet them have computers in their own rooms.
Last edited by The Parkus Empire on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:12 pm

Aillyria wrote:Humanity gets more idiotic by the day it wouod seem. Hopefully all the retards who participate in this challenge get sick, maybe that'll get it through their thick skulls that laundry pods aren't edible.

This challenge seems only to prove that maybe some teenagers just cannot handle being on the internet. I'm not saying we remove wifi from the world but there has to be something wrong with the education system if today's youth drink toxic materials for views.
Last edited by Kenmoria on Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163943
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Humanity gets more idiotic by the day it wouod seem. Hopefully all the retards who participate in this challenge get sick, maybe that'll get it through their thick skulls that laundry pods aren't edible.

This challenge seems only to prove that maybe some teenagers just cannot handle being on the internet. I'm not saying we remove wifi from the world but there has to be something wrong with the education system if today's youth drink toxic materials for views.

Tell me, in what era of history do you think it was unheard of for kids to do stupid things to impress their friends?
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:This challenge seems only to prove that maybe some teenagers just cannot handle being on the internet. I'm not saying we remove wifi from the world but there has to be something wrong with the education system if today's youth drink toxic materials for views.

Tell me, in what era of history do you think it was unheard of for kids to do stupid things to impress their friends?


Image

User avatar
The Corparation
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34138
Founded: Aug 31, 2009
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Corparation » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:11 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tell me, in what era of history do you think it was unheard of for kids to do stupid things to impress their friends?


Image

Image
Nuclear Death Machines Here (Both Flying and Orbiting)
Orbital Freedom Machine Here
A Subsidiary company of Nightkill Enterprises Inc.Weekly words of wisdom: Nothing is more important than waifus.- Gallia-
Making the Nightmare End 2020 2024 WARNING: This post contains chemicals known to the State of CA to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. - Prop 65, CA Health & Safety This Cell is intentionally blank.

User avatar
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
Senator
 
Posts: 4364
Founded: Apr 05, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:18 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Sadly, there's really only so much you can do to protect people from doing stupid, dangerous shit. A lot of it probably comes down to parenting, to raise their kids to use some common goddamn sense and not do stupid shit for pointless approval. You can change the appearance of the pods to make them look less appealing, you can slap warning labels on them, you can get awareness campaigns going... but all of that is still going to be pointless so long as you've got teens and kids willing to do stupid shit for the likes/due to peer pressure.

I mean, maybe get Youtube and other video hosting services to demonetize/unlist/remove such videos, thus removing the ability for them to earn that approval, but I've little confidence in Youtube's content enforcement abilities given how often it gets abused to take down perfectly legit videos.

That won't do a damn thing. Most chemicals in high school chemistry labs look delicious, yet most students manage to refrain from drinking them.

The only solution is to stop letting kids use the Internet in the first place. It's a worse influence than their friends could ever be.
Last edited by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha on Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Sadly, there's really only so much you can do to protect people from doing stupid, dangerous shit. A lot of it probably comes down to parenting, to raise their kids to use some common goddamn sense and not do stupid shit for pointless approval. You can change the appearance of the pods to make them look less appealing, you can slap warning labels on them, you can get awareness campaigns going... but all of that is still going to be pointless so long as you've got teens and kids willing to do stupid shit for the likes/due to peer pressure.

I mean, maybe get Youtube and other video hosting services to demonetize/unlist/remove such videos, thus removing the ability for them to earn that approval, but I've little confidence in Youtube's content enforcement abilities given how often it gets abused to take down perfectly legit videos.

That won't do a damn thing. Most chemicals in high school chemistry labs look delicious, yet most students manage to refrain from drinking them.

The only solution is to stop letting kids use the Internet in the first place. It's a worse influence than their friends could ever be.

Most posters here are probably kids or kids as it were (never had a job or left the nest)
Last edited by The Parkus Empire on Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Reploid Productions
Director of Moderation
 
Posts: 30513
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:26 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:The only solution is to stop letting kids use the Internet in the first place. It's a worse influence than their friends could ever be.

Worth noting that despite this latest fad, the vast majority of teens (and even older children!) manage to use the internet without deciding that stupid shit on the net is a good idea to emulate.
Forum mod since May 8, 2003 -- Game mod since May 19, 2003 -- Nation turned 20 on March 23, 2023!
Sunset's DoGA FAQ - For those using DoGA to make their NS military and such.
One Stop Rules Shop -- Reppy's Sig Workshop -- Getting Help Page
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
Char Aznable/Giant Meteor 2024! - Forcing humanity to move into space and progress whether we goddamn want to or not!

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:28 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:The only solution is to stop letting kids use the Internet in the first place. It's a worse influence than their friends could ever be.

Worth noting that despite this latest fad, the vast majority of teens (and even older children!) manage to use the internet without deciding that stupid shit on the net is a good idea to emulate.


I do wonder how many iphones got microwaved that we never heard about though....

User avatar
The Corparation
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34138
Founded: Aug 31, 2009
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Corparation » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:29 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Sadly, there's really only so much you can do to protect people from doing stupid, dangerous shit. A lot of it probably comes down to parenting, to raise their kids to use some common goddamn sense and not do stupid shit for pointless approval. You can change the appearance of the pods to make them look less appealing, you can slap warning labels on them, you can get awareness campaigns going... but all of that is still going to be pointless so long as you've got teens and kids willing to do stupid shit for the likes/due to peer pressure.

I mean, maybe get Youtube and other video hosting services to demonetize/unlist/remove such videos, thus removing the ability for them to earn that approval, but I've little confidence in Youtube's content enforcement abilities given how often it gets abused to take down perfectly legit videos.

That won't do a damn thing. Most chemicals in high school chemistry labs look delicious, yet most students manage to refrain from drinking them.

The only solution is to stop letting kids use the Internet in the first place.It's a worse influence than their friends could ever be.

Kids are more likely to go along with whatever dumb ideas that their friends come up with than whatever dumb thing they see online. My friends got me into more trouble as a kid then doing anything dumb I saw online. Plus Blocking the internet does not block the ability of a teenager and/or their friends to think of something really dumb to try. I worked at a scout camp for several summers, the kids on staff went without any sort of internet for weeks at a time. Shockingly this lack of internet didn't prevent them from doing stupid and dangerous things. The internet certainly hasn't helped things but there's no realistic way to prevent a a dumb kid from doing something dumb.
Nuclear Death Machines Here (Both Flying and Orbiting)
Orbital Freedom Machine Here
A Subsidiary company of Nightkill Enterprises Inc.Weekly words of wisdom: Nothing is more important than waifus.- Gallia-
Making the Nightmare End 2020 2024 WARNING: This post contains chemicals known to the State of CA to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. - Prop 65, CA Health & Safety This Cell is intentionally blank.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163943
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:The only solution is to stop letting kids use the Internet in the first place. It's a worse influence than their friends could ever be.

Worth noting that despite this latest fad, the vast majority of teens (and even older children!) manage to use the internet without deciding that stupid shit on the net is a good idea to emulate.

I dunno, when I was younger someone showed me this stupid nation simulation game :P
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Emotional Support Crocodile, Great United States, Greater Europia, Idzequitch, Ifreann, Lagene, Maximum Imperium Rex, New Temecula, Omphalos, So uh lab here, Statesburg, The Matthew Islands, Tiami

Advertisement

Remove ads