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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:47 pm

Ya ilahi...that op was horrible. Who in their right mind does this to their own child? There are no correct words to describe this except insanity.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Ya ilahi...that op was horrible. Who in their right mind does this to their own child? There are no correct words to describe this except insanity.


Killing people over their sexuality is just evil.

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Postby Zanera » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:23 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Shikihara wrote:
They don't deserve to live, so no.


Everyone deserves at least one chance to redeem themselves in my opinion.


I don't think these two will be redeemed.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:16 pm

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They don't deserve to live, so no.


Everyone deserves at least one chance to redeem themselves in my opinion.

I think they soiled that chance when they tortured a kid to death.
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Postby Aillyria » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:24 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Shikihara wrote:
They don't deserve to live, so no.


Everyone deserves at least one chance to redeem themselves in my opinion.

No, not when you torture a child to death....hell no.
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Postby Ohioan Territory » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:36 pm

Sentence them to death.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:01 pm

That story made me cry a little, and even though I ought to more, I rarely can. That level of abuse over something as trivial as someone potentially being gay just makes me sick to my stomach. I don’t know how people can bring themselves to do such horrid things to an innocent child, and I’m just utterly appalled.

Usually, I’d try to say something of more substance or provide an argument, but I just...can’t.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:05 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Shikihara wrote:
They don't deserve to live, so no.


Everyone deserves at least one chance to redeem themselves in my opinion.

They will have that chance before the dread judgement seat. There are some crimes that cry out to Heaven for justice.
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Postby Aillyria » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:06 pm

Ohioan Territory wrote:Sentence them to death.

Yes, this.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:06 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Everyone deserves at least one chance to redeem themselves in my opinion.

They will have that chance before the dread judgement seat. There are some crimes that cry out to Heaven for justice.

Now we tend to disagree in other threads but I must say I couldn’t agree more.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:19 pm

Khasinkonia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:They will have that chance before the dread judgement seat. There are some crimes that cry out to Heaven for justice.

Now we tend to disagree in other threads but I must say I couldn’t agree more.

I tend to be against the death penalty in general, but lots of Christian ideas agree that infanticide is, to quote the Catholic Catechism "a sin that cries out to God for vengeance."
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Postby Katzenstaat » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:20 pm

I'm sad to hear that this happened. At the same time I'm glad that there aren't any Christian fanatic here who celebrates the death of the supposedly gay kid.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:21 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:Now we tend to disagree in other threads but I must say I couldn’t agree more.

I tend to be against the death penalty in general, but lots of Christian ideas agree that infanticide is, to quote the Catholic Catechism "a sin that cries out to God for vengeance."

I, despite being a member of the fairly liberal episcopal church, still have agree that there are certainly cases where the death penalty is more than justified. This is definitely one of those cases.

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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:10 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Ya ilahi...that op was horrible. Who in their right mind does this to their own child? There are no correct words to describe this except insanity.


Killing people over their sexuality is just evil.


It's an eight-year-old kid, for crying out loud. People do not yet have a sexuality of any kind at that age, much less one that could be interpreted as queer by any reasonable person.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 am

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:People do not yet have a sexuality of any kind at that age

My personal experience begs to differ.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:27 am

Late on the topic, but holy crap, that is horrible... poor kid.

On that note, the mother and the boyfriend are clearly psychopaths. No other way about it.

And to me, I'm not going to pinpoint this to any religion. Even if someone is extremely devout and maybe saw that your kid might not follow your religion's teachings, the best thing to do is... oh, I don't know... TALK IT OUT?

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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:40 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:People do not yet have a sexuality of any kind at that age

My personal experience begs to differ.


I'm pretty sure you too couldn't tell the first thing about your orientation at that age, all this sexuality thing still being very new, unfamiliar and confusing to you.

I mean, I didn't even know what "gay" was at that age, or that such people even existed, and while I was vaguely familiar with concept of sex, I used to find it thoroughly disgusting. When I did learn what "gay" was sometime around that age, I found it even more disgusting than ordinary sex.

With that being said, I am genuinely baffled about how any reasonable adult could presume that an 8-year-old boy can be genuinely gay, when his sexuality and preferences have only just began to form.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:57 am

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Why does homophobia haven to exist. As long as it's between consenting adults, why does it matter?

Conscious attempts by states or individuals to police sexuality come from a simple place.

It's as the Italians say, the bedroom is the poor man's opera. Essentially, sex and sexuality is the ultimate form of individual expression. To police that means you've got personal expression nailed to the floor. You are free to restrict personal expression in any other way that you like from then on.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:00 am

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:My personal experience begs to differ.


I'm pretty sure you too couldn't tell the first thing about your orientation at that age, all this sexuality thing still being very new, unfamiliar and confusing to you.

I mean, I didn't even know what "gay" was at that age, or that such people even existed, and while I was vaguely familiar with concept of sex, I used to find it thoroughly disgusting. When I did learn what "gay" was sometime around that age, I found it even more disgusting than ordinary sex.

With that being said, I am genuinely baffled about how any reasonable adult could presume that an 8-year-old boy can be genuinely gay, when his sexuality and preferences have only just began to form.

Orientation?! Whoa man, I wasn't going that far, I'm a heterosexual male. I was referring to a crush I had in kindergarten.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:07 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:Now we tend to disagree in other threads but I must say I couldn’t agree more.

I tend to be against the death penalty in general, but lots of Christian ideas agree that infanticide is, to quote the Catholic Catechism "a sin that cries out to God for vengeance."


You must have very little faith in the power of your god if you think she need human help to punish sinners....

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:16 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I tend to be against the death penalty in general, but lots of Christian ideas agree that infanticide is, to quote the Catholic Catechism "a sin that cries out to God for vengeance."


You must have very little faith in the power of your god if you think she need human help to punish sinners....

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:22 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:
I'm pretty sure you too couldn't tell the first thing about your orientation at that age, all this sexuality thing still being very new, unfamiliar and confusing to you.

I mean, I didn't even know what "gay" was at that age, or that such people even existed, and while I was vaguely familiar with concept of sex, I used to find it thoroughly disgusting. When I did learn what "gay" was sometime around that age, I found it even more disgusting than ordinary sex.

With that being said, I am genuinely baffled about how any reasonable adult could presume that an 8-year-old boy can be genuinely gay, when his sexuality and preferences have only just began to form.

Orientation?! Whoa man, I wasn't going that far, I'm a heterosexual male. I was referring to a crush I had in kindergarten.

Well heterosexuality is an orientation so...
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:33 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I tend to be against the death penalty in general, but lots of Christian ideas agree that infanticide is, to quote the Catholic Catechism "a sin that cries out to God for vengeance."


You must have very little faith in the power of your god if you think she need human help to punish sinners....

>She
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:37 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I tend to be against the death penalty in general, but lots of Christian ideas agree that infanticide is, to quote the Catholic Catechism "a sin that cries out to God for vengeance."


You must have very little faith in the power of your god if you think she need human help to punish sinners....


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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:46 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You must have very little faith in the power of your god if you think she need human help to punish sinners....

>She
?


According to the bible, God created man in her own image. There are more women than men, ergo, the Christian god is a woman.

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