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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:32 pm

Hakons wrote:Yeah, I now see the inconstincies in my argument. Still, I find the accusations that I was a reactionary trying to go back to the Boy Scouts of 1910 to be ridiculous and unbased. As my first post in this thread said, I believe the boy scouts should be for boys, and I reckon the majority of boy scouts, not to mention girl scouts, agree.


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Postby Zanera » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:35 pm

Herador wrote:The important thing here is that we're all agreeing Thin Mints are the shit.


I'm not really a fan of minty things.

This makes me think though: when I was in we used to try to sell popcorn. I'm thinking we need to start trying to sell something else that would be much more appealing. Like brownies. Or fudge. If all the girls go to the Boy Scouts, then the Girl Scout monopoly on cookies will fall and then the Boy Scouts can sell something everyone likes any day: cookies.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:44 pm

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Herador wrote:The important thing here is that we're all agreeing Thin Mints are the shit.


I'm not really a fan of minty things.

This makes me think though: when I was in we used to try to sell popcorn. I'm thinking we need to start trying to sell something else that would be much more appealing. Like brownies. Or fudge. If all the girls go to the Boy Scouts, then the Girl Scout monopoly on cookies will fall and then the Boy Scouts can sell something everyone likes any day: cookies.

Mwahaehaehaehae.

Boy scouts should sell Bacon.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:45 pm

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I'm not really a fan of minty things.

This makes me think though: when I was in we used to try to sell popcorn. I'm thinking we need to start trying to sell something else that would be much more appealing. Like brownies. Or fudge. If all the girls go to the Boy Scouts, then the Girl Scout monopoly on cookies will fall and then the Boy Scouts can sell something everyone likes any day: cookies.

Mwahaehaehaehae.

Boy scouts should sell Bacon.


Will turkey bacon be an option for those of us who don't eat pork?
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Postby Zanera » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:46 pm

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Greed and Death wrote:Boy scouts should sell Bacon.


Will turkey bacon be an option for those of us who don't eat pork?


Turkey bacon is against my morals, personally.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:48 pm

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Greed and Death wrote:Boy scouts should sell Bacon.


Will turkey bacon be an option for those of us who don't eat pork?

As a group of multi faiths of course.
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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:50 pm

Will this be bad news for the Girl Scouts?

i am in the Lions club, and when my wife was also accepted as a Lion, the rival Lioness' organization openly resented it.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:55 pm

Zanera wrote:
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Will turkey bacon be an option for those of us who don't eat pork?


Turkey bacon is against my morals, personally.


Your loss, more for me.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:55 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Will this be bad news for the Girl Scouts?

i am in the Lions club, and when my wife was also accepted as a Lion, the rival Lioness' organization openly resented it.

Oh yeah the Girl Scouts are pisssssssssssed :p
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:55 pm

Zanera wrote:
Herador wrote:The important thing here is that we're all agreeing Thin Mints are the shit.


I'm not really a fan of minty things.

This makes me think though: when I was in we used to try to sell popcorn. I'm thinking we need to start trying to sell something else that would be much more appealing. Like brownies. Or fudge. If all the girls go to the Boy Scouts, then the Girl Scout monopoly on cookies will fall and then the Boy Scouts can sell something everyone likes any day: cookies.

Mwahaehaehaehae.

They still sell popcorn. I don't know why or how as I have yet to meet someone who likes Boy Scout popcorn. People only buy it out of pity / wanting to donate anyways. You'd think they'd have found something better by now, pity sales only take you so far.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:56 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Will this be bad news for the Girl Scouts?

i am in the Lions club, and when my wife was also accepted as a Lion, the rival Lioness' organization openly resented it.


The Girl Scouts openly resent this move by the Boy Scouts.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:58 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Will this be bad news for the Girl Scouts?

i am in the Lions club, and when my wife was also accepted as a Lion, the rival Lioness' organization openly resented it.


Quite possibly. Of the girls I've known who have been exposed to both programs (either from brothers, or from the joint programs) the Boy Scouts wins hands down.
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Postby Computer Lab » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:58 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Zanera wrote:
I'm not really a fan of minty things.

This makes me think though: when I was in we used to try to sell popcorn. I'm thinking we need to start trying to sell something else that would be much more appealing. Like brownies. Or fudge. If all the girls go to the Boy Scouts, then the Girl Scout monopoly on cookies will fall and then the Boy Scouts can sell something everyone likes any day: cookies.

Mwahaehaehaehae.

They still sell popcorn. I don't know why or how as I have yet to meet someone who likes Boy Scout popcorn. People only buy it out of pity / wanting to donate anyways. You'd think they'd have found something better by now, pity sales only take you so far.

Can confirm. We always got more in donations than sales. Over 6 hours it would be $700 or so in donations and $250 or so in sales.
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Postby Zanera » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:00 pm

Kannap wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Turkey bacon is against my morals, personally.


Your loss, more for me.


Go ahead and take it all.

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Zanera wrote:
I'm not really a fan of minty things.

This makes me think though: when I was in we used to try to sell popcorn. I'm thinking we need to start trying to sell something else that would be much more appealing. Like brownies. Or fudge. If all the girls go to the Boy Scouts, then the Girl Scout monopoly on cookies will fall and then the Boy Scouts can sell something everyone likes any day: cookies.

Mwahaehaehaehae.

They still sell popcorn. I don't know why or how as I have yet to meet someone who likes Boy Scout popcorn. People only buy it out of pity / wanting to donate anyways. You'd think they'd have found something better by now, pity sales only take you so far.


The big cans they come in look nice and are probably good for some storage, but that much popcorn takes dedication to eat for it being a snack you usually pop in your mouth absentmindedly during a movie.

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Postby Drawkland » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:24 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Will this be bad news for the Girl Scouts?

i am in the Lions club, and when my wife was also accepted as a Lion, the rival Lioness' organization openly resented it.


Quite possibly. Of the girls I've known who have been exposed to both programs (either from brothers, or from the joint programs) the Boy Scouts wins hands down.

This statement is true for me too.

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The Corparation wrote:They still sell popcorn. I don't know why or how as I have yet to meet someone who likes Boy Scout popcorn. People only buy it out of pity / wanting to donate anyways. You'd think they'd have found something better by now, pity sales only take you so far.

Can confirm. We always got more in donations than sales. Over 6 hours it would be $700 or so in donations and $250 or so in sales.

My troop literally just stopped doing the popcorn fundraiser a couple years back because it was so not worth the hassle and not lucrative.

Granted, we had a slightly more lucrative Christmas wreath fundraiser to fall back on, but that just shows you how much the popcorn fundraiser netted us. We were able to outdo it with a 2 week wreath sale.
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Quite possibly. Of the girls I've known who have been exposed to both programs (either from brothers, or from the joint programs) the Boy Scouts wins hands down.

This statement is true for me too.

Computer Lab wrote:Can confirm. We always got more in donations than sales. Over 6 hours it would be $700 or so in donations and $250 or so in sales.

My troop literally just stopped doing the popcorn fundraiser a couple years back because it was so not worth the hassle and not lucrative.

Granted, we had a slightly more lucrative Christmas wreath fundraiser to fall back on, but that just shows you how much the popcorn fundraiser netted us. We were able to outdo it with a 2 week wreath sale.


Wreaths are just low...
And popcorn is just bad. They need to try fudge or something.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:31 pm

Drawkland wrote:
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Quite possibly. Of the girls I've known who have been exposed to both programs (either from brothers, or from the joint programs) the Boy Scouts wins hands down.

This statement is true for me too.

From what I've heard from friends who have done it, Girl Scouts far outdoes Boy Scouts with the level of their regressive gender roles shit. Not a lot of backpacking or blowing shit up or what have you. :p
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:47 pm

Kannap wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Will this be bad news for the Girl Scouts?

i am in the Lions club, and when my wife was also accepted as a Lion, the rival Lioness' organization openly resented it.


The Girl Scouts openly resent this move by the Boy Scouts.


Probably. Haven't heard all the gossip yet.

GSA made the wanky move of phasing out all the usual camping and stuff about 20-30 years ago. Now it's all about talking to people and research. You can get a camping badge and not even camp.

This will be a wake up call for them. Even the girls in my wifes troop like what the boys do more......
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Postby Zanera » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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The Girl Scouts openly resent this move by the Boy Scouts.


Probably. Haven't heard all the gossip yet.

GSA made the wanky move of phasing out all the usual camping and stuff about 20-30 years ago. Now it's all about talking to people and research. You can get a camping badge and not even camp.

This will be a wake up call for them. Even the girls in my wifes troop like what the boys do more......


Building fires and whittling OR sewing and making exquisite omelets?

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Zanera wrote:
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Probably. Haven't heard all the gossip yet.

GSA made the wanky move of phasing out all the usual camping and stuff about 20-30 years ago. Now it's all about talking to people and research. You can get a camping badge and not even camp.

This will be a wake up call for them. Even the girls in my wifes troop like what the boys do more......


Building fires and whittling OR sewing and making exquisite omelets?


The amount of "hands on" has been greatly reduced. Well except for cookies which has become a major issue to them. They have women trying to run GSA like a business. They even have what they call "Journeys" about cookies now.....
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Zanera wrote:
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Probably. Haven't heard all the gossip yet.

GSA made the wanky move of phasing out all the usual camping and stuff about 20-30 years ago. Now it's all about talking to people and research. You can get a camping badge and not even camp.

This will be a wake up call for them. Even the girls in my wifes troop like what the boys do more......


Building fires and whittling OR sewing and making exquisite omelets?


Side note: It's funny you mentioned whittling. My wife handed out pocket knifes (after doing knife safety of course) and the girls sat around the camp fire whittling. "They looked like old men"
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Building fires and whittling OR sewing and making exquisite omelets?


The amount of "hands on" has been greatly reduced. Well except for cookies which has become a major issue to them. They have women trying to run GSA like a business. They even have what they call "Journeys" about cookies now.....

Running Scouts like a business is probably the greatest threat to scouting. That brand of cancer has started to affect the BSA recently. The council whose camp I used to work for got infected by it a few years back. They completely gutted the camp's traditions and culture so they could cut costs and increase profits. It wasn't enough that our camp made money, it needed t make more money and thus everyone experienced staff needed to be purged and replaced with a private company run which promised to run the camp for cheap and make the council loads more money than it already was making. Shit like that is the real thing dragging scouts down. The genitals of the orginization's membership don't matter in the least.
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Postby Drawkland » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:04 pm

Zanera wrote:
Drawkland wrote:This statement is true for me too.


My troop literally just stopped doing the popcorn fundraiser a couple years back because it was so not worth the hassle and not lucrative.

Granted, we had a slightly more lucrative Christmas wreath fundraiser to fall back on, but that just shows you how much the popcorn fundraiser netted us. We were able to outdo it with a 2 week wreath sale.


Wreaths are just low...
And popcorn is just bad. They need to try fudge or something.

To be fair, I thought the chocolate covered popcorn variety was actually pretty solid. Everything else was mediocre though.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:06 pm

Zanera wrote:
Drawkland wrote:This statement is true for me too.


My troop literally just stopped doing the popcorn fundraiser a couple years back because it was so not worth the hassle and not lucrative.

Granted, we had a slightly more lucrative Christmas wreath fundraiser to fall back on, but that just shows you how much the popcorn fundraiser netted us. We were able to outdo it with a 2 week wreath sale.


Wreaths are just low...
And popcorn is just bad. They need to try fudge or something.


Now you're onto something.
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Postby Zanera » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:07 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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Building fires and whittling OR sewing and making exquisite omelets?


Side note: It's funny you mentioned whittling. My wife handed out pocket knifes (after doing knife safety of course) and the girls sat around the camp fire whittling. "They looked like old men"


Eh, maybe. But whittling can be very fun anyway.

The Black Forrest wrote:
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Building fires and whittling OR sewing and making exquisite omelets?


The amount of "hands on" has been greatly reduced. Well except for cookies which has become a major issue to them. They have women trying to run GSA like a business. They even have what they call "Journeys" about cookies now.....


Well, now that I remember, there was some sewing in the Boy Scouts, with like badges and stuff. Except you were sewing on something signifying you did something fun and cool, not sewing as one of the main activities you always did.

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