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Do you want to get married why or why not?

Yes because I want to live the rest of my life with my BF or GF cause I love them so much
148
25%
No, because I don't want to be stuck with someone for life
19
3%
Yes because of those sweet sweet tax cuts.
19
3%
No, because I would rather like life to the fullest and not settle down
53
9%
Yes because I want to have a stable home for my future kids
99
17%
No, because I want kids but not a wife/husband
9
2%
Yes, for religious reasons
53
9%
No, not now but later on in life maybe.
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33%
 
Total votes : 600

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:58 pm

Valgora wrote:He'll definitely need a guide.

I think going to certain area's of the globe require vaccination before even going there.


I think yellow fever is the only CDC required vaccine to travel abroad, the other ones are totally unnecessary if you're ready to die.
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Postby Keshiland » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:59 pm

Sovaal wrote:
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No I will not be a travel guide I will be an American living with the locals for a week. I will only have what they have and nothing more.

So you'll travel by foot from place to place? Not be able to get you kids medication and vaccines, and watch them slowly die?


1. Everyone would get vaccines and medicine before going to each country. 2. Its only 1 week no one will die since they will get protected before going to said nation.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:01 pm

Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:So you'll travel by foot from place to place? Not be able to get you kids medication and vaccines, and watch them slowly die?


1. Everyone would get vaccines and medicine before going to each country. 2. Its only 1 week no one will die since they will get protected before going to said nation.


Vaccines and medicine cost money.
Plane, train and boat tickets cost money.
Shelter costs money.
Food costs money.

Food for ten costs a small fortune.

Not. Realistic.

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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:04 pm

I'm not interested in marriage. At all. I don't want to be in a formal relationship with anyone as I'm concerned it would distract me from my goals. I don't want to have kids because I know I would be a terrible father - heck, I can barely tolerate other people's kids.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:06 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
1. Everyone would get vaccines and medicine before going to each country. 2. Its only 1 week no one will die since they will get protected before going to said nation.


Vaccines and medicine cost money.
Plane, train and boat tickets cost money.
Shelter costs money.
Food costs money.

Food for ten costs a small fortune.

Not. Realistic.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:11 pm

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:29 am

Keshiland wrote:So as long as my wife wants to be a world traveller I think it would work out.

I plan to visit over 150 countries with my kids spending 1 week in each country over the summer so that they can experience the world and meet all the different cultures to make sure that not once of even the slightest thought of bigotry enter the minds of any of my children and so they will see the world through a clear lens, not a propaganda lens.

I can document the trips and use them as a documentary series to not only get the trips funded but to truly shift north America and Europe into Earth loving societies and leave all the nationalism behind.

Delusional. Completely delusional.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:33 am

Keshiland wrote:Nationalism is bread.


More Keshiland wisdom! "Nationalism is bread".

This guy wants to be a TV producer and change people's opinions, but cannot spell for shit, or uses words interchangeably.
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Postby NeuPolska » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:35 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Keshiland wrote:Nationalism is bread.


More Keshiland wisdom! "Nationalism is bread".

This guy wants to be a TV producer and change people's opinions, but cannot spell for shit, or uses words interchangeably.

But I mean

Is he wrong

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:41 am

Katganistan wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
1. Everyone would get vaccines and medicine before going to each country. 2. Its only 1 week no one will die since they will get protected before going to said nation.


Vaccines and medicine cost money.
Plane, train and boat tickets cost money.
Shelter costs money.
Food costs money.

Food for ten costs a small fortune.

Not. Realistic.


^This. Unless Keshiland has a bottomless money pit to drag his sprogmaker and sprogs around the world, then visiting every country is not going to happen.

Not. Going. To. Happen.

Keshiland, you need a major reality check. I don't know if you actually believe everything you are saying. I hope not, but if you do, then that is very worrying...
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:49 am

NeuPolska wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
More Keshiland wisdom! "Nationalism is bread".

This guy wants to be a TV producer and change people's opinions, but cannot spell for shit, or uses words interchangeably.

But I mean

Is he wrong

I am looking at my loaf of bread right now actually. It is white, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is nationalist. I asked it what it thinks of its country in comparison to other countries, but it didn't say anything. It sits next to the brown loaf of bread quite happily, without feeling the need to distance itself from it or make itself seem superior. It doesn't have any nationalist insignia on it or anything. So I am guessing my loaf isn't nationalist, but it may have some deep-seated opinions that it is not revealing, so I will keep a cautious eye on it...
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Postby Greater Redosia » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:33 am

The New California Republic wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:But I mean

Is he wrong

I am looking at my loaf of bread right now actually. It is white, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is nationalist. I asked it what it thinks of its country in comparison to other countries, but it didn't say anything. It sits next to the brown loaf of bread quite happily, without feeling the need to distance itself from it or make itself seem superior. It doesn't have any nationalist insignia on it or anything. So I am guessing my loaf isn't nationalist, but it may have some deep-seated opinions that it is not revealing, so I will keep a cautious eye on it...


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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:23 am

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That link seems like fucking bullshit lmao.

"Why no study can ever show definitively that getting married will make you happier

The current authors—and all the other people who try to make the same kinds of claims—want to compare married people to single people, and if they find that the married people look better in some way (say, they are happier), then conclude that if single people would only get married, they would get happier, too. But there is a big problem that can never be fully surmounted: The married people and the single people are different people."
So unless we control every variable in every aspect of the subjects' entire lives, no study is valid?

"Think of it this way: Suppose you found, hypothetically, that people who become accountants are happier than those who become poets. Should all the poets then set their imaginations aside and set up shop as accountants—and expect to become happier as a result? It's ridiculous."
Correlation doesn't imply causation, it's true. But it can.

"Because married people and single people are different people, any way that they are different could account for any differences in happiness (again, if such differences really do exist), meaning that marriage might have nothing whatsoever to do with the happiness differences."
Sounds like something someone should do a study on. Oh wait...

"For example, maybe the people who get married are already happier even before they marry—in which case marriage may be irrelevant. Or maybe they differ in other ways associated with happiness."
In which case you can record that kind of shit and try to control for it and consider it as a source of error.

"For example, because legal marriage comes with a treasure trove of legal and financial benefits, as well as discount rates on just about everything, married people may be less likely to be impoverished and that could make them happier."
Less likely to be impoverished as a result of being fucking married.

Furthermore: "And—this will not surprise readers of this blog—marriage researchers don't consider ways that married and single people differ that reflect positively on single people."

Note the "blog" bit there. The blog called "Living Single" isn't in favor of marriage? Who'd'a thunk it?

This is a bullshit blog entry that tries to use statistical mumbo-jumbo to handwave a bunch of bullshit past you. Find better sources, at least, if you're going to continue with the idiotic and Sisyphean task of convincing people in or people who have experience with happy marriages that they and said marriages are in fact unhappy.


Also, that first claim is exactly "our hypothesis isn't falsifiable".


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Aillyria wrote:You're assuming people would even invest in your pitch in the first place, alot of pre-production goes into actually getting a show on the air.


If I go to CBS with a show and a plan of how to produce that show for a cost of about 50K per episode they are very likely to entertain it since they would be almost guaranteed to profit off of that show. They live for high rating low cost productions


No they wont. They have finite air time, and shit that people actually want to watch to fill that airtime with.

Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:So you'll travel by foot from place to place? Not be able to get you kids medication and vaccines, and watch them slowly die?


1. Everyone would get vaccines and medicine before going to each country. 2. Its only 1 week no one will die since they will get protected before going to said nation.


OK, go on then. Come up with a budget to feed and house this family of yours in the US for one week on an average week's income.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:37 am

Keshiland wrote:
Aillyria wrote:You're assuming people would even invest in your pitch in the first place, alot of pre-production goes into actually getting a show on the air.


If I go to CBS with a show and a plan of how to produce that show for a cost of about 50K per episode they are very likely to entertain it since they would be almost guaranteed to profit off of that show. They live for high rating low cost productions


50k an episode? Do you plan on paying anybody? Reality is going to be a pretty big surprise to you.
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Postby Erinkita III » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:51 am

My partner and I will probably end up getting married at some point. We both want to adopt children and it's easier if you have a marriage certificate.

Personally, I agree that it will be expedient to do so, but I'm not personally enthusiastic about the prospect. We already know we're together for the rest of our lives. We've already made our promises to one another. Does that not count unless we get it in writing? That seems like such an insult.

I know it doesn't have to be a big deal, but culture's been telling me since I was a toddler that marriage is the biggest deal. Little girls have it drilled into our heads that this is the quest goal. There's so much baggage that comes part and parcel with the ceremony that I have trouble thinking of it as a mere act of convenience. And I can't conceptualise it in any way that doesn't make me feel cheap and doesn't denigrate the idea of our relationship.

But we'll almost certainly end up doing it anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:55 am

Erinkita III wrote:My partner and I will probably end up getting married at some point. We both want to adopt children and it's easier if you have a marriage certificate.

Personally, I agree that it will be expedient to do so, but I'm not personally enthusiastic about the prospect. We already know we're together for the rest of our lives. We've already made our promises to one another. Does that not count unless we get it in writing? That seems like such an insult.

I know it doesn't have to be a big deal, but culture's been telling me since I was a toddler that marriage is the biggest deal. Little girls have it drilled into our heads that this is the quest goal. There's so much baggage that comes part and parcel with the ceremony that I have trouble thinking of it as a mere act of convenience. And I can't conceptualise it in any way that doesn't make me feel cheap and doesn't denigrate the idea of our relationship.

But we'll almost certainly end up doing it anyway, so it doesn't really matter.


It does make the legal stuff easier. The buying of houses, cars, the dealing with medical issues. In the states health insurance
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Postby Erinkita III » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:58 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Erinkita III wrote:My partner and I will probably end up getting married at some point. We both want to adopt children and it's easier if you have a marriage certificate.

Personally, I agree that it will be expedient to do so, but I'm not personally enthusiastic about the prospect. We already know we're together for the rest of our lives. We've already made our promises to one another. Does that not count unless we get it in writing? That seems like such an insult.

I know it doesn't have to be a big deal, but culture's been telling me since I was a toddler that marriage is the biggest deal. Little girls have it drilled into our heads that this is the quest goal. There's so much baggage that comes part and parcel with the ceremony that I have trouble thinking of it as a mere act of convenience. And I can't conceptualise it in any way that doesn't make me feel cheap and doesn't denigrate the idea of our relationship.

But we'll almost certainly end up doing it anyway, so it doesn't really matter.


It does make the legal stuff easier. The buying of houses, cars, the dealing with medical issues. In the states health insurance

Yes, it makes a lot of sense for us to get married. There's no practical reason not to. It just makes me feel squicky.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:01 am

Erinkita III wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
It does make the legal stuff easier. The buying of houses, cars, the dealing with medical issues. In the states health insurance

Yes, it makes a lot of sense for us to get married. There's no practical reason not to. It just makes me feel squicky.


You will make a lovely bride. When you do it, send me a picture.
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Postby Erinkita III » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:06 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Erinkita III wrote:Yes, it makes a lot of sense for us to get married. There's no practical reason not to. It just makes me feel squicky.


You will make a lovely bride. When you do it, send me a picture.

Thank you, Ethel. Will do.

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A cat and a frog, getting married?

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:04 am

Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Guess you don't watch or read NatGeo, the BBC, etc...


You can't be serious, they are monitored and can get an out anytime they want. You relies most of them are not living in the same conditions they have the same basics as they do at home. I would love to see an actual documentarian live on the $2 a day that many countries in Africa and Asia have as their daily average

You're going to try and support yourself and ten children on $2 a day. As a vacation?

Yeah, your children are going to be taken away from you. That's child abuse.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
You can't be serious, they are monitored and can get an out anytime they want. You relies most of them are not living in the same conditions they have the same basics as they do at home. I would love to see an actual documentarian live on the $2 a day that many countries in Africa and Asia have as their daily average

You're going to try and support yourself and ten children on $2 a day. As a vacation?

Yeah, your children are going to be taken away from you. That's child abuse.

If he ever has them in the first place, again i doubt any woman would want to marry him.
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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:27 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're going to try and support yourself and ten children on $2 a day. As a vacation?

Yeah, your children are going to be taken away from you. That's child abuse.

If he ever has them in the first place, again i doubt any woman would want to marry him.


I'll just find someone who is so desperate for love and acceptance that they will do whatever I want. AKA have 10 kids without ever asking isn't # enough?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:28 am

Keshiland wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:If he ever has them in the first place, again i doubt any woman would want to marry him.


I'll just find someone who is so desperate for love and acceptance that they will do whatever I want. AKA have 10 kids without ever asking isn't # enough?

"I'll just find some vulnerable person and manipulate them into having kids, who I will drag off to impoverished nations to die"
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Postby Keshiland » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Keshiland wrote:
You can't be serious, they are monitored and can get an out anytime they want. You relies most of them are not living in the same conditions they have the same basics as they do at home. I would love to see an actual documentarian live on the $2 a day that many countries in Africa and Asia have as their daily average

You're going to try and support yourself and ten children on $2 a day. As a vacation?

Yeah, your children are going to be taken away from you. That's child abuse.


Its not abuse if its in a different country for a week for a tv show. Guess most of the humans on earth are nasty abusive parents. :roll:
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