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European Jihadi's, what do?

Lobby for their extradition to their home countries.
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Lobby to prevent the death penalty being applied.
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Lobby for some to be returned, and some to remain, based on some criteria.
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Allow local judiciaries to decide their fate.
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Total votes : 154

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Postby Vallermoore » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:27 pm

These terrorists don't deserve kid glove treatment.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:32 pm

Vallermoore wrote:These terrorists don't deserve kid glove treatment.


I'm amused by your choice of phrase....

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Postby Herador » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:59 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Vallermoore wrote:These terrorists don't deserve kid glove treatment.


I'm amused by your choice of phrase....

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Postby Soviet-mongol » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:05 pm

Aellex wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Sheesh man. The girl not that.

She absolutely is. She was an Islamic terrorist and a prostitute to I.S.I.S soldiers. She deserves to be called so in both the literal and figurative way, the cunt.

So a woman should not have as many partners as possible? Are we in the19th century?

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:33 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Aellex wrote:She absolutely is. She was an Islamic terrorist and a prostitute to I.S.I.S soldiers. She deserves to be called so in both the literal and figurative way, the cunt.

...ok.

But she was an Islamic terrorist.
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Aellex wrote:She absolutely is. She was an Islamic terrorist and a prostitute to I.S.I.S soldiers. She deserves to be called so in both the literal and figurative way, the cunt.

So a woman should not have as many partners as possible? Are we in the19th century?

Tell ISIS that.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:36 pm

Has Western intelligence actually corroborated the Iraqi story about this girl? Let's make sure she actually is a Daesh bride soldier and not some deluded fangirl who got picked up in a basement and declared one out of convenience.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:37 pm

Gauthier wrote:Has Western intelligence actually corroborated the Iraqi story about this girl? Let's make sure she actually is a Daesh bride soldier and not some deluded fangirl who got picked up in a basement and declared one out of convenience.

What's the difference?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:42 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Has Western intelligence actually corroborated the Iraqi story about this girl? Let's make sure she actually is a Daesh bride soldier and not some deluded fangirl who got picked up in a basement and declared one out of convenience.

What's the difference?

Because it's not like corrupt locals just picked up whoever happened to be nearby and labeled them terrorists/enemy combatants for some personal gain before.
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Postby Herador » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:02 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Has Western intelligence actually corroborated the Iraqi story about this girl? Let's make sure she actually is a Daesh bride soldier and not some deluded fangirl who got picked up in a basement and declared one out of convenience.

What's the difference?

One is a killer, the other is a particularly stupid teenager, I'd say there's a world of difference there.
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Postby BonziNation » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
Eisen Wolf Reich wrote:
The death penalty should be given to murderers. Even if they are sixteen

The death penalty should be abolished globally.


Kramania wrote:Yet.

If they execute her then they will have done so.

One can hope they do.

They won't. Staying in the good graces of the civilised world is worth more than the sadistic feels they could derive from executing a child.


No, more like a strong feeling of justice after executing a terrorist.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:54 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Aellex wrote:She absolutely is. She was an Islamic terrorist and a prostitute to I.S.I.S soldiers. She deserves to be called so in both the literal and figurative way, the cunt.

So a woman should not have as many partners as possible? Are we in the19th century?

She's a prostitute! Kill her! This will totally show we're better than ISIS!
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:56 am

BonziNation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The death penalty should be abolished globally.



They won't. Staying in the good graces of the civilised world is worth more than the sadistic feels they could derive from executing a child.


No, more like a strong feeling of justice after executing a terrorist.

Exactly, what kind of strong feeling of justice do you get from acting against the law of the land?
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:59 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:So a woman should not have as many partners as possible?[...]


I don't know about you mate, but I personally look down on people that sleep around, not to mention having more than one partner. Presuming, of course, that she has all these partners at about the same time.

Soviet-mongol wrote:[...]Are we in the19th century?


A piss poor argument if I ever saw one.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:38 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:But she was an Islamic terrorist.

I know?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:46 am

BonziNation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The death penalty should be abolished globally.



They won't. Staying in the good graces of the civilised world is worth more than the sadistic feels they could derive from executing a child.


No, more like a strong feeling of justice after executing a terrorist.

Call it whatever you want.


Risottia wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:So a woman should not have as many partners as possible? Are we in the19th century?

She's a prostitute! Kill her! This will totally show we're better than ISIS!

Here in the free and civilised West we believe that women should do what we tell them to do, not what some Muslim tells them to do!
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:49 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:But she was an Islamic terrorist.

I know?

She was a Muslim and she was a terrorist, ergo an Islamic terrorist.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:55 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I know?

She was aMuslim and she was a terrorist, ergo an Islamic terrorist.

I know, I just don't know why Aellex would call her a whore.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:20 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Aellex wrote:She absolutely is. She was an Islamic terrorist and a prostitute to I.S.I.S soldiers. She deserves to be called so in both the literal and figurative way, the cunt.

So a woman should not have as many partners as possible? Are we in the19th century?

We still talking about ISIS here?

As in the actual theocracy that murders people for adultery?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:23 am

Sovaal wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:So a woman should not have as many partners as possible? Are we in the19th century?

We still talking about ISIS here?

As in the actual theocracy that murders people for adultery?


I'm not sure they qualify as a theocracy, merely a hyperreligious military dictatorship.
Imams don't seem to be literally in charge, compared to commanders. Al-baghdadi doesn't claim to be the Caliph, only an Emir.

So it's more like a feudal society, like, if william the conqueror turned up and conquered the UK again then started burning people for witchcraft. It wouldn't be a theocracy, per se.
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Postby The Commonwealth of Tennessee » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:30 am

Let her fate be decided by the Iraqi officials.
She made that decision, not only to go into an ACTIVE WARZONE, but commit atrocities alongside a rag tag gang of idiots in the desert. No mercy should be spared, she has lost the right to call herself German anymore.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:09 am

Torsiedelle wrote:Obviously it would be Germany to lobby to spare the Jihadi.

I could hardly be bothered to care how young the terrorist is. She knew damn well what she was getting into, and was dedicated enough to fight and kill Iraqi soldiers in service to a terrorist state.

So I'm obviously very much in favor of Iraq keeping and disposing of her.

In fairness, were she American there would also be a request for extradition.

It's a sad situation, but I think she's going to have to face adult consequences for the adult decision she made to become a murderer.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:12 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:She was aMuslim and she was a terrorist, ergo an Islamic terrorist.

I know, I just don't know why Aellex would call her a whore.

No idea why you keep striking out certain words.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:17 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:She was aMuslim and she was a terrorist, ergo an Islamic terrorist.

I know, I just don't know why Aellex would call her a whore.

Because he's angry at her and wants to say hurtful things to exorcise his anger and thinks that promiscuity and prostitution are bad.


The Commonwealth of Tennessee wrote:Let her fate be decided by the Iraqi officials.
She made that decision, not only to go into an ACTIVE WARZONE, but commit atrocities alongside a rag tag gang of idiots in the desert. No mercy should be spared, she has lost the right to call herself German anymore.

German law doesn't seem to agree.


The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I know, I just don't know why Aellex would call her a whore.

No idea why you keep striking out certain words.

Obviously because he disputes the characterisation of her as an Islamic terrorist. As in, the terrorism she did(did she actually do any terrorism?) was not Islamic.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I know, I just don't know why Aellex would call her a whore.

Because he's angry at her and wants to say hurtful things to exorcise his anger and thinks that promiscuity and prostitution are bad.


The Commonwealth of Tennessee wrote:Let her fate be decided by the Iraqi officials.
She made that decision, not only to go into an ACTIVE WARZONE, but commit atrocities alongside a rag tag gang of idiots in the desert. No mercy should be spared, she has lost the right to call herself German anymore.

German law doesn't seem to agree.


The Empire of Pretantia wrote:No idea why you keep striking out certain words.

Obviously because he disputes the characterisation of her as an Islamic terrorist. As in, the terrorism she did(did she actually do any terrorism?) was not Islamic.

Joining a terrorist organization makes you a terrorist.

And yes, it was Islamic.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:27 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because he's angry at her and wants to say hurtful things to exorcise his anger and thinks that promiscuity and prostitution are bad.



German law doesn't seem to agree.



Obviously because he disputes the characterisation of her as an Islamic terrorist. As in, the terrorism she did(did she actually do any terrorism?) was not Islamic.

Joining a terrorist organization makes you a terrorist.

I suppose we could look at it that way. But at some point that means we're calling people terrorists because they sweep the floors at ISIS HQ.

And yes, it was Islamic.

*shrug* El Amin seems to think otherwise.
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