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Postby Trumptonium » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:03 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:on the positive side the original towers were hideous. at least the replacement looks nice.

the originals were from 1970s, its no surprise.


sears tower was completed three years after WTC and the architect managed to not make it an aesthetic cockwomble

to the contrary it looks quite nice

heck, John Hancock was 1960s architecture and was good as well. maybe it's a New York problem of being devoid of eyesight between Art Deco and 80s.
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Postby Cylonarus » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:05 pm

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Bible describes violence. Quran prescribes violence.


So all that stuff in Leviticus about putting people to death doesn't count. Also I guess that makes most of the Islamic world not true Muslims.


Except there are bible verses that conflict with Leviticus. Some of those being...

Whereas in the Quran, do you see anything about loving everyone? Loving thy neighbor? Granting salvation to the wicked? No.
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Postby Kingdomburk » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:12 pm

Socio Polor wrote:I was a baby when 9/11 happened, so I don't really remember the day. But I have seen videos online of the attack and let me tell you just watching it makes you depressed and angry at the fact there are people out there in the world that would take the lives of thousands of people and leave the families of those lost hurt.

RIP, to all those who passed on that day as we approach the 16th anniversary


Same. I was born on August 9th and I was only a year old so I don't remember this. But the video makes you depressed and mad as hell. I feel you brotha.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:15 pm

Cylonarus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So all that stuff in Leviticus about putting people to death doesn't count. Also I guess that makes most of the Islamic world not true Muslims.


Except there are bible verses that conflict with Leviticus. Some of those being...

Whereas in the Quran, do you see anything about loving everyone? Loving thy neighbor? Granting salvation to the wicked? No.

Off-topic. You want to debate the nature of Islam? Do it in the megathread or start another one. This is a commemoration thread.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:22 pm

Trumptonium wrote:
The of Japan wrote:the originals were from 1970s, its no surprise.


sears tower was completed three years after WTC and the architect managed to not make it an aesthetic cockwomble

to the contrary it looks quite nice

heck, John Hancock was 1960s architecture and was good as well. maybe it's a New York problem of being devoid of eyesight between Art Deco and 80s.


bah the sears tower looks like a bridge abutmentt. the wtc was a japanese expression of a bauhaus. i liked it.
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If you want freedom of speech, go to 4chan, then you can say whatever you like. Nationstates forums never claims to allow free speech, so there is no reason for you to be under that illusion.

As always, a 9/11 thread on Nationstates has turned toxic. It would be nice if it didn't happen, even just for one year. But I suppose that is asking for too much.

I think last years thread or the one in 2015 wasn't bad
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:


If you want freedom of speech, go to 4chan, then you can say whatever you like. Nationstates forums never claims to allow free speech, so there is no reason for you to be under that illusion.

As always, a 9/11 thread on Nationstates has turned toxic. It would be nice if it didn't happen, even just for one year. But I suppose that is asking for too much.

I think last years thread or the one in 2015 wasn't bad


But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:56 am

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Thermodolia wrote:I think last years thread or the one in 2015 wasn't bad


But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool.

Who was Donnie again?

EDIT: Ah. Don Trump
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Postby Cylonarus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think last years thread or the one in 2015 wasn't bad


But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool.



>mod gets mad at me for replying to something with evidence
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>"But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool."

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:07 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think last years thread or the one in 2015 wasn't bad


But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool.

People have been assholes long before Trump became president
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Cylonarus wrote:>mod gets mad at me for replying to something with evidence
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>"But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool."


Then stop saying falsehood about Al-Islam. Also, come here, I refuted your post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=398369&start=3175
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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But that was before Donnie made everyone decide that hate was cool.

People have been assholes long before Trump became president


Yeah, it's just more and more are coming out of the woodwork now.
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Postby Luminesa » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:13 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:People have been assholes long before Trump became president


Yeah, it's just more and more are coming out of the woodwork now.

Worldwide?...Not really. And Trump never pioneered hate being "cool". Rather ignorant suggestion, as though nobody thought hate was cool before Trump ran for office.
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Postby Zanera » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:24 pm

I don't really see where President Trump comes into this except him visiting the 9/11 memorial and saying some words about it.

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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:45 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Summertimequestionswine wrote:I think people exaggerate tragedies to garner attention for themselves, or something...

Anyway, shouldn't we be celebrating it's been sixteen years and we haven't had a 9/11 level islamic terrorist attack since?

CELEBRATING!?

Are you mad? 9/11 shouldn't be fucking CELEBRATED.

He's saying that we should be grateful that there hasn't been a terror attack that hasn't killed more than 1,000 people in 16 years. At least, that's how I see it.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:08 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:CELEBRATING!?

Are you mad? 9/11 shouldn't be fucking CELEBRATED.

He's saying that we should be grateful that there hasn't been a terror attack that hasn't killed more than 1,000 people in 16 years. At least, that's how I see it.

That's how I read it as well.

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