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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:56 am

Sovaal wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:I should point out that I never claimed one side to be completely innocent

But more to the point ...they did indeed use planes full of civilians and in that they were wrong. It would have been much better had they stole and empty one.


also
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us- ... d=34993960

That's bullshit and the people responsible for it should be punished, yet nowhere in it do they claim it was a military base.

if its bull then why does someone need to be punished?
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Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:That's bullshit and the people responsible for it should be punished, yet nowhere in it do they claim it was a military base.

if its bull then why does someone need to be punished?

Because that's what happens when someone commits murder?
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:10 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Sovaal wrote:That's bullshit and the people responsible for it should be punished, yet nowhere in it do they claim it was a military base.

if its bull then why does someone need to be punished?

It's bullshit in that that shouldn't have happened. However, the US military didn't order the bombing of the hospital. If we're going to blame the US on military attacks on civilians in the middle eats why stop with them? British, hell, soldiers from pretty much all nations involved have committed violence against civilians.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:14 am

Sovaal wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:if its bull then why does someone need to be punished?

It's bullshit in that that shouldn't have happened. However, the US military didn't order the bombing of the hospital. If we're going to blame the US on military attacks on civilians in the middle eats why stop with them? British, hell, soldiers from pretty much all nations involved have committed violence against civilians.

The discussion seems to have wandered.
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Postby Socio Polor » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:04 pm

Guys, let's try not to wander off the purpose of this thread and resort to trolling and flaming others. I'd hate for a thread like this to get locked.
In any case the anniversary was great for remembering those who lost their lives that day, and to give support to the families who lost loved ones
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:06 pm

Socio Polor wrote:Guys, let's try not to wander off the purpose of this thread and resort to trolling and flaming others. I'd hate for a thread like this to get locked.
In any case now the anniversary was great for remembering those who lost their lives that day, and to give support to the families who lost loved ones

no one was off topic...we were discussing who exactly should be at fault for 9/11....I cant defend the flaming though seeing as I didn't partake in it.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:26 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Socio Polor wrote:Guys, let's try not to wander off the purpose of this thread and resort to trolling and flaming others. I'd hate for a thread like this to get locked.
In any case now the anniversary was great for remembering those who lost their lives that day, and to give support to the families who lost loved ones

no one was off topic...we were discussing who exactly should be at fault for 9/11....I cant defend the flaming though seeing as I didn't partake in it.

The thread was for remembering the tragedy, not assigning blame. Start a new thread if you want to do that.
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Postby Nyoronet » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:34 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
New Greater Netherlands wrote:
Islam IS the cancer of the world


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The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:and alot in our generation have a sick humor, hence on of my friend jokes about his mothers suicide alot

Be that as it may, "it's just a joke" is not going to cut it in this thread.



you know, for a website about politics and differing opinions there sure is a lot of censorship
just waiting for ns to turn into one of max's books

here's hoping soon, so people can move on elsewhere
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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:03 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Be that as it may, "it's just a joke" is not going to cut it in this thread.



you know, for a website about politics and differing opinions there sure is a lot of censorship
just waiting for ns to turn into one of max's books

here's hoping soon, so people can move on elsewhere


There is already a censorship on NS, they don't like it when you critisise Islam
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:01 pm

Kramania wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Lol islamophobes take Al-Islam so out of context it's a wonder they still have a large following.

"B-b-but it's out of context!"

This is literally the argument that people from any religion use.

Well. Do you beat your wife with a rod no thicker than your thumb when she has disobeyed you?

Have you stoned you children (or been stoned to death, with actual rocks) by your parents for being disobedient?

Have you sold your daughter into slavery?

Do you in fact wear any clothing that is a blend of fibers?

Eat shellfish? Or pork?

Bearstin wrote:Third or fourth post i read criticizes trump, like you people can't give it a break. How about instead of bitching about your president, you maybe react to someones story and remember those lost on 9/11? That is what this thread is for is it not? You're being childish and insensitive.

I've grown up hearing the stories of "this is where I was on 9/11" and "I knew a first responder" or "I was working in the city at the time". Why not we focus on remembrance and not criticism. The only criticism that should be thrown around is to those responsible

Perhaps you could have just not commented on something that was said twenty pages ago, from which the conversation has moved on? No?

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Bearstin wrote:Third or fourth post i read criticizes trump, like you people can't give it a break. How about instead of bitching about your president, you maybe react to someones story and remember those lost on 9/11? That is what this thread is for is it not? You're being childish and insensitive.

I've grown up hearing the stories of "this is where I was on 9/11" and "I knew a first responder" or "I was working in the city at the time". Why not we focus on remembrance and not criticism. The only criticism that should be thrown around is to those responsible

Because this is NSG where you'd be hard-pressed to find threads that don't devolve into an anti-Trump circle-jerk.

Before Trump you would have been hard-pressed to find threads that weren't pro-Obama circle-jerks.

Or it could be that anything you disagree with is "a circle-jerk"?

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Farnhamia wrote:Chile and Pinochet aren't relevant to this thread.

The thread topic is 9/11. Why do we need to fixate on America's 9/11 when there have been far worse? Darmstadt 1944?

Because this is about the American 9/11 and remembering it. Start your own thread if you want to talk about them.

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Kramania wrote:Because this is NSG where you'd be hard-pressed to find threads that don't devolve into an anti-Trump circle-jerk.

Before Trump you would have been hard-pressed to find threads that weren't pro-Obama circle-jerks.

What NSG are you talking about? :lol2:

The one seen through right-colored glasses.

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Socio Polor wrote:Guys, let's try not to wander off the purpose of this thread and resort to trolling and flaming others. I'd hate for a thread like this to get locked.
In any case now the anniversary was great for remembering those who lost their lives that day, and to give support to the families who lost loved ones

no one was off topic...we were discussing who exactly should be at fault for 9/11....I cant defend the flaming though seeing as I didn't partake in it.


It is a REMEMBRANCE thread. Thanks.

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Farnhamia wrote:Be that as it may, "it's just a joke" is not going to cut it in this thread.



you know, for a website about politics and differing opinions there sure is a lot of censorship
just waiting for ns to turn into one of max's books

here's hoping soon, so people can move on elsewhere

Bye.
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New Greater Netherlands wrote:
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you know, for a website about politics and differing opinions there sure is a lot of censorship
just waiting for ns to turn into one of max's books

here's hoping soon, so people can move on elsewhere


There is already a censorship on NS, they don't like it when you critisise Islam

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Nyoronet wrote:you know, for a website about politics and differing opinions there sure is a lot of censorship
just waiting for ns to turn into one of max's books

here's hoping soon, so people can move on elsewhere


New Greater Netherlands wrote:There is already a censorship on NS, they don't like it when you critisise Islam


If you want freedom of speech, go to 4chan, then you can say whatever you like. Nationstates forums never claims to allow free speech, so there is no reason for you to be under that illusion.

As always, a 9/11 thread on Nationstates has turned toxic. It would be nice if it didn't happen, even just for one year. But I suppose that is asking for too much.
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Postby Zanera » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:41 pm

Instead of all that kind of talk, I've a question.
I believe new WTC towers have been built?

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Postby Dylar » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Zanera wrote:Instead of all that kind of talk, I've a question.
I believe new WTC towers have been built?

Just one tower. They call it 1WTC(One World Trade Center), or Freedom Tower, and it's much much much taller than before. Right now it's the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. And the 6th tallest in the world.
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Postby Zanera » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:08 pm

Dylar wrote:
Zanera wrote:Instead of all that kind of talk, I've a question.
I believe new WTC towers have been built?

Just one tower. They call it 1WTC(One World Trade Center), or Freedom Tower, and it's much much much taller than before. Right now it's the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. And the 6th tallest in the world.


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I believe the original building was the tallest building in the world when it was built. The new one at least sets a standard for the hemisphere.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Nyoronet wrote:you know, for a website about politics and differing opinions there sure is a lot of censorship
just waiting for ns to turn into one of max's books

here's hoping soon, so people can move on elsewhere


New Greater Netherlands wrote:There is already a censorship on NS, they don't like it when you critisise Islam


If you want freedom of speech, go to 4chan, then you can say whatever you like. Nationstates forums never claims to allow free speech, so there is no reason for you to be under that illusion.

As always, a 9/11 thread on Nationstates has turned toxic. It would be nice if it didn't happen, even just for one year. But I suppose that is asking for too much.

Of course because people don't know how to act right without calling each other "Islamic haters, terrorist supporters, rascist" and all that other nonsense
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:35 pm

Socio Polor wrote:
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If you want freedom of speech, go to 4chan, then you can say whatever you like. Nationstates forums never claims to allow free speech, so there is no reason for you to be under that illusion.

As always, a 9/11 thread on Nationstates has turned toxic. It would be nice if it didn't happen, even just for one year. But I suppose that is asking for too much.

Of course because people don't know how to act right without calling each other "Islamic haters, terrorist supporters, rascist" and all that other nonsense

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Dylar wrote:
Zanera wrote:Instead of all that kind of talk, I've a question.
I believe new WTC towers have been built?

Just one tower. They call it 1WTC(One World Trade Center), or Freedom Tower, and it's much much much taller than before. Right now it's the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. And the 6th tallest in the world.

4 is open and 3 has been topped, but it is not ready to be occupied
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Ethel mermania wrote:
Dylar wrote:Just one tower. They call it 1WTC(One World Trade Center), or Freedom Tower, and it's much much much taller than before. Right now it's the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. And the 6th tallest in the world.

4 is open and 3 has been topped, but it is not ready to be occupied

2 Is under construction

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:56 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:4 is open and 3 has been topped, but it is not ready to be occupied

2 Is under construction


sorta, they built the base, but the rest of the tower is on hold.
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on the positive side the original towers were hideous. at least the replacement looks nice.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
The of Japan wrote:2 Is under construction


sorta, they built the base, but the rest of the tower is on hold.

shit, they still haven't really started? concept for building looked great

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Postby The of Japan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:59 pm

Trumptonium wrote:on the positive side the original towers were hideous. at least the replacement looks nice.

the originals were from 1970s, its no surprise.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:00 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
sorta, they built the base, but the rest of the tower is on hold.

shit, they still haven't really started? concept for building looked great

dont be surprised if it changes, three had a nicer design as well
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:03 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:on the positive side the original towers were hideous. at least the replacement looks nice.

the originals were from 1970s, its no surprise.


64, it was state of the art at the time

(edit: the design for clarity)


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