Do You Want Trump To Be Successful?

[NeuPolska]

Looks pretty good/decent physically

Damn I know, they had to put me on a waiting list with thousands of other people all in line to get that haircut.

[Infected Mushroom]

I'd highly contest the 'looks pretty good' part. He's a fat ass with skin and hair so bad they are practically memes.

The other things, yeah, he's had a pretty successful life by some measures.

As for the OP question, I'm hoping he fails at most of his major plans but doesn't ruin the US in the journey. Also I hope he learns when to successfully not tweet like an angry twelve year old.

he looks a bit like a variation of Robert Redford

definitely one of the better looking presidents

[Imperializt Russia]

Looks pretty good/decent physically

Damn I know, they had to put me on a waiting list with thousands of other people all in line to get that haircut.

I thought they just upended two jars of peanut butter and hair product on your head and lathered it into shape.

[Imperializt Russia]

I'd highly contest the 'looks pretty good' part. He's a fat ass with skin and hair so bad they are practically memes.

The other things, yeah, he's had a pretty successful life by some measures.

As for the OP question, I'm hoping he fails at most of his major plans but doesn't ruin the US in the journey. Also I hope he learns when to successfully not tweet like an angry twelve year old.

he looks a bit like a variation of Robert Redford

definitely one of the better looking presidents

Obama, Clinton, Roosevelt.

Truman looked a'ight, in terms of style, kind of makes you wonder if Jacob Rees-Mogg is secretly a time-travelling clone of Truman though.

[Vistulange]

That depends on your definition of successful

Ultra Rich (infinite money for all intents and purposes)
Famous
Looks pretty good/decent physically
Had a lot of fun running television shows
Is President of the United States
Regular contact with the world's most powerful people both within and outside of the USA

You don't think that's cool?

Oh, IM. You never cease to amaze me with your incredibly shallow view on life. I'm beginning to think you are a sentient parody.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ultra Rich (infinite money for all intents and purposes)
Famous
Looks pretty good/decent physically
Had a lot of fun running television shows
Is President of the United States
Regular contact with the world's most powerful people both within and outside of the USA

You don't think that's cool?

Oh, IM. You never cease to amaze me with your incredibly shallow view on life. I'm beginning to think you are a sentient parody.

He is an Infected Mushroom.

[The Blaatschapen]

That depends on your definition of successful

Ultra Rich (infinite money for all intents and purposes)
Famous
Looks pretty good/decent physically
Had a lot of fun running television shows
Is President of the United States
Regular contact with the world's most powerful people both within and outside of the USA

You don't think that's cool?

Nah, he fails at the first step of being successful : being Dutch

[Infected Mushroom]

Ultra Rich (infinite money for all intents and purposes)
Famous
Looks pretty good/decent physically
Had a lot of fun running television shows
Is President of the United States
Regular contact with the world's most powerful people both within and outside of the USA

You don't think that's cool?

Nah, he fails at the first step of being successful : being Dutch

His ancestry/family originally hailed from Germany. That close enough?

[The Blaatschapen]

Nah, he fails at the first step of being successful : being Dutch

His ancestry/family originally hailed from Germany. That close enough?

No. That just means that his family were quitters.

[Infected Mushroom]

His ancestry/family originally hailed from Germany. That close enough?

No. That just means that his family were quitters.

what do you mean?

[Cedoria]

I want it too be successful at doing good things for the world...

But do I want his goals to be successful? Fuck no. Because they're insane...

Since there's no chance of the first, I'll dedicate myself to opposing the latter as much as possible.

[Grenartia]

Nope, don't want him to succeed. I once heard a comparison of not wanting the president to succeed as being like not wanting a pilot to fly the plane safely to its destination. To that I say, in this case, its more like not wanting that one guy who flew a plane into a mountain on purpose a few years ago to succeed in doing so.

[Infected Mushroom]

Ultra Rich (infinite money for all intents and purposes)
Famous
Looks pretty good/decent physically
Had a lot of fun running television shows
Is President of the United States
Regular contact with the world's most powerful people both within and outside of the USA

You don't think that's cool?

Oh, IM. You never cease to amaze me with your incredibly shallow view on life. I'm beginning to think you are a sentient parody.

Some people say the depth of a person's success can be summarised by the size of their wallet. However, I think that's grossly over-simplifying things. You should also consider fame, power, beauty etc. On the issue of wealth its also complicated... after all, someone may have very little in the bank and in their wallet but still be an absolute god with tons of liquid properties and land per say. Who's to say he's not worth millions/billions?

Well here's a more simplified test (to see if someone is successful or not).

Can this person... tomorrow... on an absolute whim... buy a Big House and a Big Car? By "Big" I mean something in the top price ranges.

If someone has a Big House and a Big Car and he's not remotely stretched financially, I'd say he's earned some measure of success.

And by that metric, Trump passes the test in spades.

I mean, there are entire buildings named after him for God's sake...

[Kaidou]

Oh, IM. You never cease to amaze me with your incredibly shallow view on life. I'm beginning to think you are a sentient parody.

Some people say the depth of a person's success can be summarised by the size of their wallet. However, I think that's grossly over-simplifying things. You should also consider fame, power, beauty etc. On the issue of wealth its also complicated... after all, someone may have very little in the bank and in their wallet but still be an absolute god with tons of liquid properties and land per say. Who's to say he's not worth millions/billions?

Well here's a more simplified test (to see if someone is successful or not).

Can this person... tomorrow... on an absolute whim... buy a Big House and a Big Car? By "Big" I mean something in the top price ranges.

If someone has a Big House and a Big Car and he's not remotely stretched financially, I'd say he's earned some measure of success.

And by that metric, Trump passes the test in spades.

I mean, there are entire buildings named after him for God's sake...

I disagree; success isn't something that can be measured so easily.

Say you have two guys, A and B. A grew up below the poverty line. He hails from a single-parent home and lives in a shitty rental apartment in the middle of nowhere, and because his unemployed mother is stroke-bound, funds are really tight. B, on the other hand, comes from a wealthy family; both his parents are big time stock brokers with tons of connections, and they're more than willing to throw money at their son in anything he does.

Now, let's say that A manages to break out of the poverty cycle; he gets a diploma, finds himself a moderate-paying but decent job, and eventually manages to get himself a house after much saving. Simultaneously, B, despite his family's influence and wealth, doesn't do that great; even though he starts his business with vast amounts of resources, it doesn't do as well as he hopes, and while he's far richer than A in pretty much every area, B's wealth is nowhere near what it could potentially have reached.

Who, then, is the more successful one?

[Infected Mushroom]

Some people say the depth of a person's success can be summarised by the size of their wallet. However, I think that's grossly over-simplifying things. You should also consider fame, power, beauty etc. On the issue of wealth its also complicated... after all, someone may have very little in the bank and in their wallet but still be an absolute god with tons of liquid properties and land per say. Who's to say he's not worth millions/billions?

Well here's a more simplified test (to see if someone is successful or not).

Can this person... tomorrow... on an absolute whim... buy a Big House and a Big Car? By "Big" I mean something in the top price ranges.

If someone has a Big House and a Big Car and he's not remotely stretched financially, I'd say he's earned some measure of success.

And by that metric, Trump passes the test in spades.

I mean, there are entire buildings named after him for God's sake...

I disagree; success isn't something that can be measured so easily.

Say you have two guys, A and B. A grew up below the poverty line. He hails from a single-parent home and lives in a shitty rental apartment in the middle of nowhere, and because his unemployed mother is stroke-bound, funds are really tight. B, on the other hand, comes from a wealthy family; both his parents are big time stock brokers with tons of connections, and they're more than willing to throw money at their son in anything he does.

Now, let's say that A manages to break out of the poverty cycle; he gets a diploma, finds himself a moderate-paying but decent job, and eventually manages to get himself a house after much saving. Simultaneously, B, despite his family's influence and wealth, doesn't do that great; even though he starts his business with vast amounts of resources, it doesn't do as well as he hopes, and while he's far richer than A in pretty much every area, B's wealth is nowhere near what it could potentially have reached.

Who, then, is the more successful one?

B probably?

Is this a trick question?

[Imperializt Russia]

Nope, don't want him to succeed. I once heard a comparison of not wanting the president to succeed as being like not wanting a pilot to fly the plane safely to its destination. To that I say, in this case, its more like not wanting that one guy who flew a plane into a mountain on purpose a few years ago to succeed in doing so.

Yeah, there's a bit of a difference between "the president" and "this president", much like between "the pilot" and "this pilot".

[Kaidou]

I disagree; success isn't something that can be measured so easily.

Say you have two guys, A and B. A grew up below the poverty line. He hails from a single-parent home and lives in a shitty rental apartment in the middle of nowhere, and because his unemployed mother is stroke-bound, funds are really tight. B, on the other hand, comes from a wealthy family; both his parents are big time stock brokers with tons of connections, and they're more than willing to throw money at their son in anything he does.

Now, let's say that A manages to break out of the poverty cycle; he gets a diploma, finds himself a moderate-paying but decent job, and eventually manages to get himself a house after much saving. Simultaneously, B, despite his family's influence and wealth, doesn't do that great; even though he starts his business with vast amounts of resources, it doesn't do as well as he hopes, and while he's far richer than A in pretty much every area, B's wealth is nowhere near what it could potentially have reached.

Who, then, is the more successful one?

B probably?

Is this a trick question?

So the guy who went from 100 to 101 has achieved more than the guy who went from 0 to 99?

[Infected Mushroom]

B probably?

Is this a trick question?

So the guy who went from 100 to 101 has achieved more than the guy who went from 0 to 99?

He's made less measurable progress, but his overall level of being is at a more successful level?

[Kaidou]

So the guy who went from 100 to 101 has achieved more than the guy who went from 0 to 99?

He's made less measurable progress, but his overall level of being is at a more successful level?

In that case, I think we have a fundamental disagreement of what success is.

[The Blaatschapen]

Oh, IM. You never cease to amaze me with your incredibly shallow view on life. I'm beginning to think you are a sentient parody.

Some people say the depth of a person's success can be summarised by the size of their wallet. However, I think that's grossly over-simplifying things. You should also consider fame, power, beauty etc. On the issue of wealth its also complicated... after all, someone may have very little in the bank and in their wallet but still be an absolute god with tons of liquid properties and land per say. Who's to say he's not worth millions/billions?

Well here's a more simplified test (to see if someone is successful or not).

Can this person... tomorrow... on an absolute whim... buy a Big House and a Big Car? By "Big" I mean something in the top price ranges.

If someone has a Big House and a Big Car and he's not remotely stretched financially, I'd say he's earned some measure of success.

And by that metric, Trump passes the test in spades.

I mean, there are entire buildings named after him for God's sake...

Networth is such a neoliberal definition of successful.

See, one is successful when they accomplish their own goals in life and be content with it. Given Trumps frequent angry rants, I don't think he's content.

[Infected Mushroom]

Some people say the depth of a person's success can be summarised by the size of their wallet. However, I think that's grossly over-simplifying things. You should also consider fame, power, beauty etc. On the issue of wealth its also complicated... after all, someone may have very little in the bank and in their wallet but still be an absolute god with tons of liquid properties and land per say. Who's to say he's not worth millions/billions?

Well here's a more simplified test (to see if someone is successful or not).

Can this person... tomorrow... on an absolute whim... buy a Big House and a Big Car? By "Big" I mean something in the top price ranges.

If someone has a Big House and a Big Car and he's not remotely stretched financially, I'd say he's earned some measure of success.

And by that metric, Trump passes the test in spades.

I mean, there are entire buildings named after him for God's sake...

Networth is such a neoliberal definition of successful.

See, one is successful when they accomplish their own goals in life and be content with it. Given Trumps frequent angry rants, I don't think he's content.

so I can just set a very low goal and call myself as successful as those in the highest networth range?

[Risottia]

As successful as any other president has been, I guess. Though there really isn't much for him to fuck up that the past few presidents already haven't.

Buchanan?

[Kaidou]

Networth is such a neoliberal definition of successful.

See, one is successful when they accomplish their own goals in life and be content with it. Given Trumps frequent angry rants, I don't think he's content.

so I can just set a very low goal and call myself as successful as those in the highest networth range?

If it means you can live a happy and meaningful life, I don't see why the heck not.

[Infected Mushroom]

so I can just set a very low goal and call myself as successful as those in the highest networth range?

If it means you can live a happy and meaningful life, I don't see why the heck not.

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

[The Alma Mater]

If it means you can live a happy and meaningful life, I don't see why the heck not.

I feel like that's the equivalent of playing Ranked League, never getting past Bronze, and then saying "I am successful regardless because my only goal was to have fun and beat Bronze II."

I mean, it feels like self-deception

Not if that is the goal you set beforehand.