Okay Kelly Ann slow your roll with the "alternative facts"
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by Katganistan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:15 pm
by Potthan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:24 pm
by Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:30 pm
by Damverland » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:00 pm
by Vassenor » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:02 pm
Damverland wrote:I left reddit because of the horrifyingly strong anti-right rhetoric on there. The fact that leftists have the audacity to complain about bullying and insults from the right is outright stupid.
by Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:07 pm
Vassenor wrote:Damverland wrote:I left reddit because of the horrifyingly strong anti-right rhetoric on there. The fact that leftists have the audacity to complain about bullying and insults from the right is outright stupid.
Because clearly the fact they're complaining about it from one side means they're OK with it from the other.
by Damverland » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:09 pm
by The Burke Islands » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:20 pm
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:25 pm
The Plutonian Empire wrote:Honestly though, if one can't afford a decent quality of life for their child, that's another ground for abortion. So it's either two choices for that: stay miserable and poor and broke all your life, or resort to abortion. A few minutes of barbarism, much as it sucks, seems a bit more fair than a lifetime of absolute misery.
The Plutonian Empire wrote:.
Unless of course, the mother is a bitch who can't keep her hands off drugs and alcohol for 9 months like the lady who spawned me. Then yeah, either abort the poor kid or give them up for adoption.
The Plutonian Empire wrote:This is why as a pansexual I avoid church even though I'm Christian.TBF I'm a very bad Christian and I'll likely go to Hell.Not liking abortion isn't automatically hateful, to be honest it's literally the murder of babies to those who are against it, so even though I'm pro-choice for other people, I still see it as killing babies, and I never will do it myself because there's no way I'd ever bear the guilt of that.
I admit, I still see abortion that way too, but I've come to realize that not all women will want a child, and will probably consider it more as a parasite than as a life to mother. Plus, not everyone has sexy genes too, and will unfortunately pass on stuff like schizophrenia, inheritable mental illnesses, histories of cancer or mental retardation, etc.
by Minoa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:56 pm
West Phoenicia wrote:My concern for Minoa is, if you are receiving mental health triggers due to 2 fair elections. Posting on a site like this may not assist with your personal well being and you should seek help from a professional that can assist. Because in life you will come across multitudes who do not agree with you and they are allowed to think how they like. Just like you.
And instead of trying to rally hate for hate. Take a leaf from the most influential man in history.
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.-
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:08 pm
Minoa wrote:West Phoenicia wrote:My concern for Minoa is, if you are receiving mental health triggers due to 2 fair elections. Posting on a site like this may not assist with your personal well being and you should seek help from a professional that can assist. Because in life you will come across multitudes who do not agree with you and they are allowed to think how they like. Just like you.
And instead of trying to rally hate for hate. Take a leaf from the most influential man in history.
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.-
I do not believe in Christianity, and I find it incredibly offensive to hear that I should love those who want to persecute me: that rationally makes no sense. I have felt increasingly inclined to consider suicide over the last few days.
by The Lone Alliance » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:16 pm
by Great Minarchistan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:04 pm
Great Tawil wrote:I'll be honest, I originally left NS due to the large amount of right-wingers. I just didn't feel welcome here.
by The Plutonian Empire » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:33 pm
Salus Maior wrote:The Plutonian Empire wrote:Honestly though, if one can't afford a decent quality of life for their child, that's another ground for abortion. So it's either two choices for that: stay miserable and poor and broke all your life, or resort to abortion. A few minutes of barbarism, much as it sucks, seems a bit more fair than a lifetime of absolute misery.
In that case, I have a suggestion.
We should take all members of the 1% in this country, line them up and have them shot, and seize their wealth and property and spread it for the betterment of the lower classes.
Maybe a month or a year of barbarism probably. But what's that compared to the lifetimes it would improve? Seems more than moral in your line of thought.
The Plutonian Empire wrote:.
Unless of course, the mother is a bitch who can't keep her hands off drugs and alcohol for 9 months like the lady who spawned me. Then yeah, either abort the poor kid or give them up for adoption.
So you don't believe your life has been worthwhile? You've never found happiness or purpose because of your mother?
The Plutonian Empire wrote:
I admit, I still see abortion that way too, but I've come to realize that not all women will want a child, and will probably consider it more as a parasite than as a life to mother. Plus, not everyone has sexy genes too, and will unfortunately pass on stuff like schizophrenia, inheritable mental illnesses, histories of cancer or mental retardation, etc.
If you think it's acceptable at all, then no you don't actually see it that way. Or, you believe the value of a baby is relative to how much they're wanted.
by Luminesa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm
by AiliailiA » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:44 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by Minoa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:56 pm
The Plutonian Empire wrote:As for my happiness or purpose in life? Edit: I have nothing anymore. The worldbuilding project that my NS nation is a part of is literally the only thing thats keeping me alive. The feelings of pure hopelessness I've had the past several months I would not wish on anyone.
by AiliailiA » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:01 pm
Minoa wrote:The Plutonian Empire wrote:As for my happiness or purpose in life? Edit: I have nothing anymore. The worldbuilding project that my NS nation is a part of is literally the only thing thats keeping me alive. The feelings of pure hopelessness I've had the past several months I would not wish on anyone.
Sadly, I am going through the same situation, plus I have a massive backlog of things I want to do, but unable to do so due to fatigue and yes, despair. I should be doing the things I need to do soon, because at present I am in a perilous state, living in a country where the stereotype of benefits claimants being "lazy people" prevails.
At best, I probably only have 7 to 12 years left to live, I don't want to have to bother with the fear of retiring in the same situation as I am now. Maybe I won't make it to 2020, given that I have lost a lot of appetite, stopped sleeping properly, and increasingly self-harmed myself over the last few months.
That is the devastating impact of racial hatred.
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by Luminesa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:44 pm
AiliailiA wrote:Minoa wrote:Sadly, I am going through the same situation, plus I have a massive backlog of things I want to do, but unable to do so due to fatigue and yes, despair. I should be doing the things I need to do soon, because at present I am in a perilous state, living in a country where the stereotype of benefits claimants being "lazy people" prevails.
At best, I probably only have 7 to 12 years left to live, I don't want to have to bother with the fear of retiring in the same situation as I am now. Maybe I won't make it to 2020, given that I have lost a lot of appetite, stopped sleeping properly, and increasingly self-harmed myself over the last few months.
That is the devastating impact of racial hatred.
There's a stickied thread on the first page of General, and you should heed the advice in it. Posting about your personal vulnerability, even in a thread which feels "safe", you know makes you even more vulnerable to people who give bad advice for malicious reasons.
Keeping my own advice to a minimum, I'd say "not sleeping properly" is the first of the problems you should address. Getting a full night's sleep never does any harm, and not getting it often does.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 pm
Minoa wrote:The Plutonian Empire wrote:As for my happiness or purpose in life? Edit: I have nothing anymore. The worldbuilding project that my NS nation is a part of is literally the only thing thats keeping me alive. The feelings of pure hopelessness I've had the past several months I would not wish on anyone.
Sadly, I am going through the same situation, plus I have a massive backlog of things I want to do, but unable to do so due to fatigue and yes, despair. I should be doing the things I need to do soon, because at present I am in a perilous state, living in a country where the stereotype of benefits claimants being "lazy people" prevails.
At best, I probably only have 7 to 12 years left to live, I don't want to have to bother with the fear of retiring in the same situation as I am now. Maybe I won't make it to 2020 if I remain in the UK, given that I have lost a lot of appetite, stopped sleeping properly, and increasingly self-harmed myself over the last few months.
That is the devastating impact of racial hatred.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:01 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:05 pm
The Plutonian Empire wrote:As for my happiness or purpose in life? Edit: I have nothing anymore. The worldbuilding project that my NS nation is a part of is literally the only thing thats keeping me alive. The feelings of pure hopelessness I've had the past several months I would not wish on anyone.
The problem with the pro-life crowd, is that very few of them, if any, bother to think of the welfare of the kid AFTER they're born. How many kids have been saved from abortion, only to be neglected, abused, or sent to the wayside by the very same people who supposedly espouse their perfect value as a living being?
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:06 pm
AiliailiA wrote:I find it odd that the OP started a thread with a theme of hate being bad (sort of) and self-discovery making one a less hateful person ... but is now willing to go on with debating abortion. Knowing surely, that abortion is one of the topics most likely to arouse hatred in the Generals.
Maybe the thread is really about nostalgia?could I say the one thing I miss more than anything all the way back to 2005, is pages full of quote pyramids? I believe the quote pyramids, at cost only of taking up screen space, had the great virtue of showing who had been in a strand of the thread before, and what each argument made previously was against, and they prevented mindless repetition, and showcased the best one-on-one debates. Cutting pyramids so short has made General more of a chat site than a debate forum. Only posts on the last page or two get replies, and only two posters with great willpower (or personal rivalry towards each other) can keep up a one-on-one debate without being drowned out by shallow points based on their use of one word, or of an example chosen to illustrate their broader argument.
If General has gotten dumber overall, it's ultimately the fault of the users who post here. No rules or format system can make good debate out of bad debaters, or good humour out of bad comedians. But the (overly short) pyramids have encouraged a form of very shallow one-liner "debate" without which many bad posters would have no reason to come here, and it's thwarted good debating style (one-on-one for page after page) making those debaters more likely to leave. Of all the format changes over the years, the culling of the pyramids has done the most harm.
Even one more level on every pyramid would help. One more level would show whether a strand is the continuation of a one-on-one, or not. Ideally, there would be a default depth of six or so, to the pyramids displayed, and users could then customize what they see to be shorter or longer pyramids. I guess that would load the server pretty heavily though. I think long ago I suggested customizable pyramid depth and was told it was too heavy ... come to think of it, just about every suggestion I've ever made got shot down as "too much for the server" meanwhile all sorts of pointless eye candy has been added regardless of server load, ultimately I think it's because I'm just a Generalite and what I think would be good for NS is just what might be good for General, and doesn't account what gameplayers and roleplayers want. I admit that animations for their coat-of-arms, or short pyramids for the long diplomatic posts, probably suit their role-playing uses, and they shouldn't be denied because I find those things bad for General.
The timewarp I don't miss at all. Sometimes it would be hilarious, but far more often it was just confusing. It also got new users into trouble, as they'd often think it was the timewarping poster themselves who somehow "cheated" to get their post out of order.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:21 pm
The Feylands wrote:I bet you can't stand watching a movie of what it looks like or wouldn't object to having pictures of the remains of aborted babies around you. It's a truly barbaric murder of a small human being and nothing else.Great Tawil wrote:Abortion isn't murder.
As for burkas... reason number 1 to ban the burka isn't because of protection from terrorism (although that is a reason as well) but because it's part of an oppressive, fascist system that has no place in Europe or any other part of the civilized world just like publicly wearing a swastika.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
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