A word on Hate...

[Benuty]

The Imperium of Man is more likely to embrace chaos worship than for humans to get along with each other. So I guess we will be waiting for the inevitable takeover of heresy in the imperium.

[The Plutonian Empire]

Long-ass post coming up. :p

If you see my past posts, you will see how badly the Brexit, the reaction to Trump’s election, and the austerity measures against the disabled have done to my mental health.

Ouch, that sucks. :( As someone whose depression spiraled enough to trigger my psychiatrist to send me to a 72 hour hold at the end of November (I definitely had a plan, as I knew I didn't want to be around after Obama left), I can relate. Not to mention, I have my own disabilities to deal with, mainly profound hearing loss and Fetal Alcohol.

Yet, I try to maintain high levels of civility.

This is my goal as well. I won't always succeed, I admit, but I won't stop trying. :)

If you see my past posts, you will see how badly the Brexit, the reaction to Trump’s election, and the austerity measures against the disabled have done to my mental health. Yet, I try to maintain high levels of civility.

Why would fair elections trigger a mental health concern?

Unfortunately it's becoming slowly clear(er) that the American one wasn't, as the Russians are being uncovered as the ones who hacked our elections.

Would you rather a one party state where you do not have the opportunity that democracy brings.

Every so many years the media and the politicians get us all anxious. Flinging mud at each other and saying if the other party gets in, its the end of the world. Fearmongering at its best.

So Trump won. Big deal. So Hiliary lost. Big deal. Both are friends behind the scenes and neither of them winning or losing is going to cause the planets to align and bring God's wrath.

Same with Brixit if your not from Britain. Its of no concern if people want to seperate from the EU which only has its own interests at heart. People voted and the exit crowd won. Its not as if the UK is going to sink into the ocean because of it.

You will find that your mental health triggers will reduce when you realise you cannot control the world or anyone else or demand they change their views. Whether left wing or right wing. People are people and there are annoying people in both wings. Many times i wanted to leave due to some rants from a left wing bigot. But those left wing bigots dont speak for everyone. And neither do the right wing ones.

All you can do is control your own actions, thinking, speech.

Correct, my therapist is helping me work on this. The most recent example, the woman who got killed by the cop here in my state (yes, I live in Minnesota). As soon as I had enough info about the shooting I wanted, I quit. I began ignoring most of the headlines mostly because I knew there would be mud slinging everywhere. As a news junkie, who only sticks with our local 5 pm ones now, I've been avoiding that because of the political mud slinging everywhere. As someone who is generally easy-ish to trigger to temper, I know all the rest of the news about the shooting will just piss me off. So I've been doing my best to remind myself to control myself.

I'll be honest, I originally left NS due to the large amount of right-wingers. I just didn't feel welcome here.

Part of the beauty of debating on a public forum is to have somebody espousing a set of views antithetical to your own.

I remember when NS was swamped with a large amount of left-wingers. To the point when it was like Hippostania and maybe five other regular posters who leaned substantially right of center.

Not gonna lie, those were the best years of intellectual circle jerking in my life. :p

Just fight em' back. I'm a right-winger/centrist, and I'm certainly not gonna call you a "lib-tard".

The thing is I hate fighting. I just wanna draw flags and make friends

I'm with ya. I'm just here now for making friends and creative worlbuilding. :)

My family was ripped apart by Islamism and Extremist Ideology. On 9/11, my mother was killed in the South Tower. I was living in N.J back then, I was only two. My father, however, fully comprehended the scene in front of him and knew he had just lost his wife. Ever since I fully comprehended the reasoning behind 9/11, I held a particularly deep hatred against Middle Eastern Wahabis, Extremists, and the lot.

I'm genuinely sorry you went through that, and I'm sorry for your loss. :( Being a true victim of others' hate sucks.

Right-wingers do not have a monopoly on hate, nor are all right-wingers hateful people. I am not a hateful person. I might joke from time to time about how much I hate all of humanity, but in reality there are fairly few people in the world that I genuinely hate. I have always tried to be civil when discussing things with people on the other side of the fence, something that is often difficult when views on both sides are very strongly held and when the opposite side of the debate are being less than civil themselves.

I think that the OP is blinded by their own ideological preferences to the hatred and bitterness that exists on their side of the spectrum. In truth, the discourse from the political right in recent years has been increasingly bitter, petty and vindictive, to the point that I feel somewhat embarrassed to be associated with it; and yet I don't see anything better when I peep over the fence at the left-wing side of the equation. Leftists do seem to me to carry the notion that they are the "nice," "compassionate" and "reasonable" side of politics in the contemporary Western world, but that's just not true. They just direct their hatred at different targets- those who they perceive as "privileged", those who subscribe to traditional ideals and lifestyles, those who they view as insufficiently supportive of their progressive or revolutionary "cause" and so forth.

Is there anything I can do to reverse or undo my self-blindness towards the hate coming from my side of the spectrum? So far, what I have noticed about myself, is that I generally act quite triggered and negatively towards my past two roommates, who I found out were far right Confederate racist types only after they moved in. While we get along for the most part, I still find myself thinking quite negatively about it, even though I know I shouldn't.

On the whole, I'd say that NationStates General is one of the better places on the internet for expressing views in a reasonable and civil way. By the not particularly high standards of the internet, this is a friendly and welcoming place. Those who say otherwise are often the ones least capable of tolerating and dealing with people who have opposing worldviews at all.

After being on Reddit the past three years, I can only agree on this. :p

...my sexy post count of 8,000 was tragically nuked with the loss of the Jolt Forums, so I have no archive to search for evidence...

Au contraire.

Yay! Thank you for correcting me! :)

But at the ripe old fossil fuel age of 32, I can say with experience that embracing all-consuming hate is a pretty crappy rabbit hole to dig into. In the meantime, I certainly quit hating on the LGBT, and I especially quit hating on abortion..

But, as a bisexual who still clings on to his free love freedom ideologies from 10 years ago, and I certainly try not to hate on people anymore, and while I certainly hope some NSG'ers rethink their embracement of hate, it's pretty damn hard to like a political party whose only purpose in life is to have me dead.

Like babies barbarically murdered in their mother's womb you mean? :(

If the mother's life is in danger or the kid has enough of a disability to cause lifetime suffering for both them and their family, it's unfortunately a necessary evil. But with genetic engineering technologies, I can only hope we don't have to worry about those anymore.

Unless of course, the mother is a bitch who can't keep her hands off drugs and alcohol for 9 months like the lady who spawned me. Then yeah, either abort the poor kid or give them up for adoption.

Honestly though, if one can't afford a decent quality of life for their child, that's another ground for abortion. So it's either two choices for that: stay miserable and poor and broke all your life, or resort to abortion. A few minutes of barbarism, much as it sucks, seems a bit more fair than a lifetime of absolute misery.

Having a gay person around certainly wasn't a problem for the Republican party or even the 'alt-right' during Milo Yiannopoulos' career. I wouldn't be surprised if you found out many right-wingers would treat you more like anyone else than left-wingers done, who might see treating you in a special way because your sexuality as a pathway to 'salvation' and the 'second coming' of global egalitarian Utopia etc. :)

Considering both my far right roommates still treat me like a human, despite my left leanings and being bisexual, I honestly can not disagree.

Dismissing people with certain opinions as 'hateful' is certianly just as an effective method of bullying and dehumanizing somebody than saying that they're 'evil', 'ugly, 'stupid' or whatever. It really destroys any sensible discussion, and by extension democracy. And I really don't get what being pro-life has got to do with one's sexuality... these people seem to agree.[/quote]
That's my bad; I've gotten rambly in my old, old age. Plus I didn't know where else to put that statement; I kinda felt obligated in some way I remember being openly vocal and disrespectful about it in my olden days here, since I'm not anymore.

I never understood some people's hate for Jolt. But whatever. :p

It started off as mild annoyance at the constant downtime and bad servers - then a bunch of drama occurred between the admins and the Jolt staff over a bunch of things (including I think Nationstates 2), and the relationship became toxic. Moving the forums was one of the best decisions they ever made.

Ouch, that sucks. If a relationship becomes toxic, then yeah I can only support a change.

Hate is bad.

Also, welcome back to nation states! :hug:

It is. And thank you! :) :hug:

Feeling nostalgic, I browsed a few pages of NSG again after some long absence. The only noteworthy thread I found was that Generation Z thread now on Page 8 or so. It wasn't long before finding several posts openly declaring they proudly consume themselves in their embrace of pure hate. Call me a triggered leftie, but, after a bunch of self discovery over the past 10 years, it only further resolves my own further feelings of contempt for some ideologies.

Oi, everyone has certain beliefs they find irredeemable. As long as you're not going out of your way to try to harm or harass people who are of those ideologies, then there's nothing wrong with it.

My phone's wifi hotspot trollingly being named "Republicans Are Pure Evil" is one such example of my feelings. :twisted:

That would trigger my friend Justin (southern-pride republican, not racist) so hard sweet lord. He'd also laugh at it and take it as a joke.

That's the exact intent of it. If it triggers someone, oh well. If they take it as a joke, yay! Especially since I live in my own apartment now... :D

Anyways, in 2013, I realized myself to actually be a bisexual myself, for real.
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But all I know is that back then, I myself was seething with much more hate than I do now. "I hate abortion", "I hate 'lesbonazis'", or whatever hate you can come up with using whatever inappropriate slur I pulled out of my ass for whatever group of people or ideology I have.

This is why as a pansexual I avoid church even though I'm Christian. TBF I'm a very bad Christian and I'll likely go to Hell. Not liking abortion isn't automatically hateful, to be honest it's literally the murder of babies to those who are against it, so even though I'm pro-choice for other people, I still see it as killing babies, and I never will do it myself because there's no way I'd ever bear the guilt of that. And if you were saying you hate 'lesbonazis' as in the people who try to force pro-LGBT and anti-cis/straight messages into everything, I honestly understand where you stood back then, because I see them as the same level of awful as the violent homo/transphobes

I admit, I still see abortion that way too, but I've come to realize that not all women will want a child, and will probably consider it more as a parasite than as a life to mother. Plus, not everyone has sexy genes too, and will unfortunately pass on stuff like schizophrenia, inheritable mental illnesses, histories of cancer or mental retardation, etc.

Looking back on all that hate I had, it is not who I want to be. I don't like hating on people anymore. Especially since a large part of my dislike of lesbians back then I now realize was probably a crappy way to project my internal feelings. Am I still guilty of some hate? Yes. But at the ripe old fossil fuel age of 32, I can say with experience that embracing all-consuming hate is a pretty crappy rabbit hole to dig into. In the meantime, I certainly quit hating on the LGBT, and I especially quit hating on abortion...

Because I too, can share my hate for prolonged high pitched screaming that only serves to make my ears react like nails on chalkboard. #ForeverChildFree :p

My fears of having children in the future in a nutshell, minus "What if I drop the baby???!!" and "What if my baby hates me!!!??"

I can relate, lol.

But while I do my best to refrain from hate towards groups of people, the news cycles these days makes it especially hard. I certainly deleted twitter and reduced my TV news consumption. Because I don't need more hate. I see a lot of it. I already dislike right-wing ideology simply because it is so consumed by hate. Can't we all get along. But, as a bisexual who still clings on to his free love freedom ideologies from 10 years ago, and I certainly try not to hate on people anymore, and while I certainly hope some NSG'ers rethink their embracement of hate, it's pretty damn hard to like a political party whose only purpose in life is to have me dead.

I honestly think you hate their ideology, but not them. You don't seem like a person who hates people for their opinion, you just get angry over opinions you find threatening, which everybody does to some extent. No need to feel bad! I try my best to be civil in arguments, but sometimes when I come across people whose beliefs I find absolutely rotten (Shariah apologists, black supremacists, the "down with cis" people, and globalist imperialism) I can't help but get really salty for lack of a better word to fit. It's human and it happens. I try to reduce it as much as possible because hostility doesn't help. But some people just go out of their way to be dicks to people they disagree with, which is where I don't even bother to be respectful. Basically a 'you get what you give' thing. That's never happened to me on here, thankfully our rules prevent that.

Good catch, as you pretty much hit the nail on the head. :)

As someone with a set of views that people don't normally see together, I do wish politics weren't as hostile. Like, a Black Lives Matter member once threatened to kill me because I don't support killing people for being white, and don't even get me started on the shit I get from some people in my religion for being part of two things in LGBT+. Basically the crazy parts of the left and the right both have a reason to hate me, but they're not all like that. I more so try to be bitter towards those parts.

Yeah me too. I"ve also noticed a lot of hate for law enforcement, but every now and then, I'll see something wholesome, like some officers going out of their way to improve someones day or life. We need more of those, and less of the ones who will shoot unarmed fellow Minnesota residents.

[Calladan]

Humans have made hate a pretty booming business so just saying "cant we all get along?" is a bit too simplistic in regards to the reality. A lot of our tech has been made simply because we cannot stand to leave certain "others" in peace.

*shrug* I am not trying to create a new world order. I am merely saying if you get rid of hate out of your life, it gets a great deal easier, and a great deal better. I can honestly say that since around 1991, I have not truly hated anyone. Sure I get little flares of temper now and then, but they generally soon pass and I move on. "Forgive, but not forget" - you'd be surprised how easy your life can get when you just let it all go.

[New Decandsor]

Feeling nostalgic, I browsed a few pages of NSG again after some long absence. The only noteworthy thread I found was that Generation Z thread now on Page 8 or so. It wasn't long before finding several posts openly declaring they proudly consume themselves in their embrace of pure hate. Call me a triggered leftie, but, after a bunch of self discovery over the past 10 years, it only further resolves my own further feelings of contempt for some ideologies. My phone's wifi hotspot trollingly being named "Republicans Are Pure Evil" is one such example of my feelings.

Anyways, in 2013, I realized myself to actually be a bisexual myself, for real. I can't remember if I made jokes about it on NS before, because my sexy post count of 8,000 was tragically nuked with the loss of the Jolt Forums, so I have no archive to search for evidence. Speaking of which, I never understood some people's hate for Jolt. But whatever.

But all I know is that back then, I myself was seething with much more hate than I do now. "I hate abortion", "I hate 'lesbonazis'", or whatever hate you can come up with using whatever inappropriate slur I pulled out of my ass for whatever group of people or ideology I have. Looking back on all that hate I had, it is not who I want to be. I don't like hating on people anymore. Especially since a large part of my dislike of lesbians back then I now realize was probably a crappy way to project my internal feelings. Am I still guilty of some hate? Yes. But at the ripe old fossil fuel age of 32, I can say with experience that embracing all-consuming hate is a pretty crappy rabbit hole to dig into. In the meantime, I certainly quit hating on the LGBT, and I especially quit hating on abortion...

Because I too, can share my hate for prolonged high pitched screaming that only serves to make my ears react like nails on chalkboard. #ForeverChildFree

But while I do my best to refrain from hate towards groups of people, the news cycles these days makes it especially hard. I certainly deleted twitter and reduced my TV news consumption. Because I don't need more hate. I see a lot of it. I already dislike right-wing ideology simply because it is so consumed by hate. Can't we all get along? (Image)

But, as a bisexual who still clings on to his free love freedom ideologies from 10 years ago, and I certainly try not to hate on people anymore, and while I certainly hope some NSG'ers rethink their embracement of hate, it's pretty damn hard to like a political party whose only purpose in life is to have me dead.

The right doesn't base itself around hate unless you're talking about the far right. I am a right winger myself, but I also hold left ideologies as well. There are several people of the right wing who don't hate people such as those in the LGBT community, myself included. It is wrong to think those of the right wing benefit from hating on people, or even hate people in general.

I don't support the Democratic or Republican Party directly. While more of my views align with the Republican Party, they don't ever hold out on promises and are corrupt just as the Democratic Party. Also, both parties purpose isn't for the death of people, it's just to make more money for themselves and put themselves in positions of power, addressing the last sentence.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Imperium of Man is more likely to embrace chaos worship than for humans to get along with each other. So I guess we will be waiting for the inevitable takeover of heresy in the imperium.

Tbqh it probably won't be long until Horus somehow comes back and kills Big E.

[Old Varegia]

I know security concerns are one of the reasons and it's perfectly understandable. When you have an enemy, you must be wary of those who share things in common with them. It doesn't matter if no terrorist attacks have been committed by burqa wearers. The burqa presents a very clear opportunity for any would-be terrorists. You don't even have to be a woman, either, because nobody would even know unless they closely inspected you.

Say, for example, your name is John and you're a white American Christian man. I've never heard of any airport terrorist attack committed by a white American Christian man named John, but you still have to go through airport security. When it comes to potential massacres, you don't take chances. It really doesn't matter at all if nobody wearing a burqa has ever committed a terrorist act (such a claim is dubious anyway), you'll still want to deprive the enemy of opportunities to strike.

None of this has been used as an excuse by the attempts to ban the Burka. Anything presents an opportunity for would-be terrorists, the second largest terror attack in Europe was done by a Norwegian person.

There's a reason everyone has to go through the same airport security outside of random searches.

Quite honestly, I don't believe you.

[Calladan]

None of this has been used as an excuse by the attempts to ban the Burka. Anything presents an opportunity for would-be terrorists, the second largest terror attack in Europe was done by a Norwegian person.

There's a reason everyone has to go through the same airport security outside of random searches.

Quite honestly, I don't believe you.

UKIP want to ban the burka because they feel that not being able to see the face of the person you are talking to interferes with your ability to communicate with them successfully.

That is the stated reason in their manifesto. Nothing to do with terrorism. Nothing to do with whatever shit you made up. They think that people get uncomfortable talking to someone they cannot see the face of.

(Funny story on this topic :- a journalist phoned them up to verify this, and the UKIP spokesperson insisted it was true. The journalist then asked if he was uncomfortable talking to her on the phone since he couldn't see her face, and he said "Of course not". So she pointed out he was being a bit of a dick)

[Old Varegia]

Quite honestly, I don't believe you.

UKIP want to ban the burka because they feel that not being able to see the face of the person you are talking to interferes with your ability to communicate with them successfully.

That is the stated reason in their manifesto. Nothing to do with terrorism. Nothing to do with whatever shit you made up. They think that people get uncomfortable talking to someone they cannot see the face of.

(Funny story on this topic :- a journalist phoned them up to verify this, and the UKIP spokesperson insisted it was true. The journalist then asked if he was uncomfortable talking to her on the phone since he couldn't see her face, and he said "Of course not". So she pointed out he was being a bit of a dick)

The Brits really are outdoing themselves, it seems.

[Greater United American Republics]

If you see my past posts, you will see how badly the Brexit, the reaction to Trump’s election, and the austerity measures against the disabled have done to my mental health. Yet, I try to maintain high levels of civility.

That's stupid.

[Potthan]

As a proud member of Generation Z and Trumpublican I can say most accusations of "hate" are just us fucking around or purposefully saying shit to piss people off. We are a generation of smartasses, but we get serious. In the future Generation Z will change the world drastically and usher in a new golden age.

[The Feylands]

I'm sure nobody has got more mental issues in wake of the mass-immigration crisis and all the crime, rape, murder, terrorism etc. The fear or going out or the anger of having to pay for people who have no reason for being here staying at hotels while public services are deterioting. The vile and cynical psychological manipulation of friends and family by the mainstream media. None of that affects anybody mental health. Absolutely not.

Oh.. wait it does...

Seriously though: I have all the respect for people going through psychiatric stuff, but it's not really a good ground of having a discussion about other stuff like politics. Maybe you should think about why you feel that way? Did someone make you think or feel that "fascism" was on its way back and that we're closing in for some kind of doomsday scenario or something like that? Might it actually have been ordinary people getting tired of people that are the worst for the least among us?

[West Phoenicia]

My concern for Minoa is, if you are receiving mental health triggers due to 2 fair elections. Posting on a site like this may not assist with your personal well being and you should seek help from a professional that can assist. Because in life you will come across multitudes who do not agree with you and they are allowed to think how they like. Just like you.

And instead of trying to rally hate for hate. Take a leaf from the most influential man in history.

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.-

[Vassenor]

Quite honestly, I don't believe you.

UKIP want to ban the burka because they feel that not being able to see the face of the person you are talking to interferes with your ability to communicate with them successfully.

That is the stated reason in their manifesto. Nothing to do with terrorism. Nothing to do with whatever shit you made up. They think that people get uncomfortable talking to someone they cannot see the face of.

(Funny story on this topic :- a journalist phoned them up to verify this, and the UKIP spokesperson insisted it was true. The journalist then asked if he was uncomfortable talking to her on the phone since he couldn't see her face, and he said "Of course not". So she pointed out he was being a bit of a dick)

Also something about it causing vitamin D deficiency.

[Potthan]

UKIP want to ban the burka because they feel that not being able to see the face of the person you are talking to interferes with your ability to communicate with them successfully.

That is the stated reason in their manifesto. Nothing to do with terrorism. Nothing to do with whatever shit you made up. They think that people get uncomfortable talking to someone they cannot see the face of.

(Funny story on this topic :- a journalist phoned them up to verify this, and the UKIP spokesperson insisted it was true. The journalist then asked if he was uncomfortable talking to her on the phone since he couldn't see her face, and he said "Of course not". So she pointed out he was being a bit of a dick)

Also something about it causing vitamin D deficiency.

Wouldn't be surprised. The only other source of vitamin D Muslims have is their weird uncles.

[Vassenor]

Also something about it causing vitamin D deficiency.

Wouldn't be surprised. The only other source of vitamin D Muslims have is their weird uncles.

Fun fact: that's actually considered haram.

[Calladan]

My concern for Minoa is, if you are receiving mental health triggers due to 2 fair elections. Posting on a site like this may not assist with your personal well being and you should seek help from a professional that can assist. Because in life you will come across multitudes who do not agree with you and they are allowed to think how they like. Just like you.

And instead of trying to rally hate for hate. Take a leaf from the most influential man in history.

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.-

While I would not wish to speak for Minoa, I don't think it is the actual elections that are causing the issues.

Let me give you a hypothetical example.

You and your family are the only black people in your home town. For the past twenty years, the government has been mostly made up of a politically neutral group.

Then, one day, there is a massive lean to the right, and the KKK, or The BNP, or whatever the racist flavour of the month party is. They literally gain every seat in the local elections, and now the government is entirely made up of racists.

The entire process was free and fair, and you can't argue with it, or the results. However the consequence of the results - the fact that you and your family are living under a government that thinks you are inferior and are going to write policies that will target you, that will make you wish you were dead - are something that will probably have problems with.

This, I think, is what is going on.

The last few years in the UK have caused the goverment to swing to the right, have caused a massive rise in hate-crimes, and in anti-foreigner sentiment in general.

I am less happy about my country than I was five, ten years ago. And I think it will only get worse in 2019 when we pull out of the EU altogether.

[Potthan]

Wouldn't be surprised. The only other source of vitamin D Muslims have is their weird uncles.

Fun fact: that's actually considered haram.

Fun fact: That was a joke

[Potthan]

My concern for Minoa is, if you are receiving mental health triggers due to 2 fair elections. Posting on a site like this may not assist with your personal well being and you should seek help from a professional that can assist. Because in life you will come across multitudes who do not agree with you and they are allowed to think how they like. Just like you.

And instead of trying to rally hate for hate. Take a leaf from the most influential man in history.

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.-

While I would not wish to speak for Minoa, I don't think it is the actual elections that are causing the issues.

Let me give you a hypothetical example.

You and your family are the only black people in your home town. For the past twenty years, the government has been mostly made up of a politically neutral group.

Then, one day, there is a massive lean to the right, and the KKK, or The BNP, or whatever the racist flavour of the month party is. They literally gain every seat in the local elections, and now the government is entirely made up of racists.

The entire process was free and fair, and you can't argue with it, or the results. However the consequence of the results - the fact that you and your family are living under a government that thinks you are inferior and are going to write policies that will target you, that will make you wish you were dead - are something that will probably have problems with.

This, I think, is what is going on.

The last few years in the UK have caused the goverment to swing to the right, have caused a massive rise in hate-crimes, and in anti-foreigner sentiment in general.

I am less happy about my country than I was five, ten years ago. And I think it will only get worse in 2019 when we pull out of the EU altogether.

Yeah but there isn't a rise in hate crimes, you're just imagining things

[Calladan]

While I would not wish to speak for Minoa, I don't think it is the actual elections that are causing the issues.

Let me give you a hypothetical example.

You and your family are the only black people in your home town. For the past twenty years, the government has been mostly made up of a politically neutral group.

Then, one day, there is a massive lean to the right, and the KKK, or The BNP, or whatever the racist flavour of the month party is. They literally gain every seat in the local elections, and now the government is entirely made up of racists.

The entire process was free and fair, and you can't argue with it, or the results. However the consequence of the results - the fact that you and your family are living under a government that thinks you are inferior and are going to write policies that will target you, that will make you wish you were dead - are something that will probably have problems with.

This, I think, is what is going on.

The last few years in the UK have caused the goverment to swing to the right, have caused a massive rise in hate-crimes, and in anti-foreigner sentiment in general.

I am less happy about my country than I was five, ten years ago. And I think it will only get worse in 2019 when we pull out of the EU altogether.

Yeah but there isn't a rise in hate crimes, you're just imagining things

Sarcasm?

[Katganistan]

While I would not wish to speak for Minoa, I don't think it is the actual elections that are causing the issues.

Let me give you a hypothetical example.

You and your family are the only black people in your home town. For the past twenty years, the government has been mostly made up of a politically neutral group.

Then, one day, there is a massive lean to the right, and the KKK, or The BNP, or whatever the racist flavour of the month party is. They literally gain every seat in the local elections, and now the government is entirely made up of racists.

The entire process was free and fair, and you can't argue with it, or the results. However the consequence of the results - the fact that you and your family are living under a government that thinks you are inferior and are going to write policies that will target you, that will make you wish you were dead - are something that will probably have problems with.

This, I think, is what is going on.

The last few years in the UK have caused the goverment to swing to the right, have caused a massive rise in hate-crimes, and in anti-foreigner sentiment in general.

I am less happy about my country than I was five, ten years ago. And I think it will only get worse in 2019 when we pull out of the EU altogether.

Yeah but there isn't a rise in hate crimes, you're just imagining things

Pull the other leg, it's got bells on it.

[Potthan]

Yeah but there isn't a rise in hate crimes, you're just imagining things

Pull the other leg, it's got bells on it.

[Potthan]

Yeah but there isn't a rise in hate crimes, you're just imagining things

Sarcasm?

No.

[Conaim]

Hate will always be a problem, but also consider this,

Where would we be if we didn't hate disease or murder? Probably extinct....not that that would be a bad thing...

[Calladan]

Sarcasm?

No.

Oh. Well then.

There is a chance you might be wrong

[Katganistan]

Sarcasm?

No.

Delusion? Or "alternate truth"?