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Postby Minoa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:35 pm

Katganistan wrote:Realism.

Well, I tell you what. When you resurrect yourself at the end of your life, if you're still male. then I'll concede you have a point.

When we're talking about a science fiction show that has already had other aliens of the same race (Gallifreyian) switch genders, I am less likely to consider such complaints as anything more than silliness.

In science fiction, anything happens. Anything.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:05 pm

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The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


Realism.

Well, I tell you what. When you resurrect yourself at the end of your life, if you're still male. then I'll concede you have a point.

When we're talking about a science fiction show that has already had other aliens of the same race (Gallifreyian) switch genders, I am less likely to consider such complaints as anything more than silliness.


Isn't that what most of these complaints are anyways?
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Postby Calladan » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:42 am

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So how is this "ruining" the show?

It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants


I would LOVE to see that. And a genderswapped version of Gone With The Wind would be a work of genius.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:47 am

The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work

It's already been established years and years ago that Time Lords/Ladies can change sex during regeneration. FFS, I don't even watch the show and I know this...
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:49 am

TrustMe wrote:
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So how is this "ruining" the show?

It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants

Well, I didn't really care about Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants, so I'm pretty sure my reaction would stay at a firm "Meh."
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:13 am

It's canonical thAt the doctor can regenerate into any sex, gender, race, height, or nose shape. Saying that is ruining the show isn't a standpoint from canon, you just don't want a woman.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:16 am

Honestly, this whole thing reminds me a lot of the Princess Twilight Sparkle controversy a few years back. Mainly because a lot of the complaints can be summed up in one three-second YouTube clip.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:47 am

Why is this even a controversy? Most people complaining, including myself, don't even watch the show.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:55 am

Kvatchdom wrote:Why is this even a controversy? Most people complaining, including myself, don't even watch the show.

Because SJW libertard cucks are trying to shove progressivism down our throats and remove masculinity from this world!!!11!

Now, in all seriousness, this could be a problem story-wise... except for the fact that the show brought up the point years upon years ago that Time Lords/Ladies can regenerate into any skin color, eye color, height, hair color, age, and yes, even sex/gender that their species has. So this is really a nonissue, and honestly, was gonna happen sooner or later.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:05 am

Kvatchdom wrote:Why is this even a controversy? Most people complaining, including myself, don't even watch the show.


It's a controversy because some troglodyte in some internet backwater decided that all female protagonists are bad.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:12 am

New haven america wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Why is this even a controversy? Most people complaining, including myself, don't even watch the show.

Because SJW libertard cucks are trying to shove progressivism down our throats and remove masculinity from this world!!!11!

Now, in all seriousness, this could be a problem story-wise... except for the fact that the show brought up the point years upon years ago that Time Lords/Ladies can regenerate into any skin color, eye color, height, hair color, age, and yes, even sex/gender that their species has. So this is really a nonissue, and honestly, was gonna happen sooner or later.

Aye that's what I've been told, so I don't really see any talking points anyone could have against this.
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Kvatchdom wrote:Why is this even a controversy? Most people complaining, including myself, don't even watch the show.


It's a controversy because some troglodyte in some internet backwater decided that all female protagonists are bad.

Reddit should be deleted to be honest.
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Postby Calladan » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:21 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
New haven america wrote:Because SJW libertard cucks are trying to shove progressivism down our throats and remove masculinity from this world!!!11!

Now, in all seriousness, this could be a problem story-wise... except for the fact that the show brought up the point years upon years ago that Time Lords/Ladies can regenerate into any skin color, eye color, height, hair color, age, and yes, even sex/gender that their species has. So this is really a nonissue, and honestly, was gonna happen sooner or later.

Aye that's what I've been told, so I don't really see any talking points anyone could have against this.


Oh - you want reason and logic in the arguments against this. Sorry. Fresh out. We can only give you ranting and idiocy.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:25 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
New haven america wrote:Because SJW libertard cucks are trying to shove progressivism down our throats and remove masculinity from this world!!!11!

Now, in all seriousness, this could be a problem story-wise... except for the fact that the show brought up the point years upon years ago that Time Lords/Ladies can regenerate into any skin color, eye color, height, hair color, age, and yes, even sex/gender that their species has. So this is really a nonissue, and honestly, was gonna happen sooner or later.

Aye that's what I've been told, so I don't really see any talking points anyone could have against this.
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It's a controversy because some troglodyte in some internet backwater decided that all female protagonists are bad.

Reddit 4Chan should be deleted to be honest.

FTFY

Now, I don't necessarily agree with that, but eh...
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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:26 am

New haven america wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Aye that's what I've been told, so I don't really see any talking points anyone could have against this.

Reddit 4Chan should be deleted to be honest.

FTFY

Why not B O T H
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:29 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
New haven america wrote:FTFY

Why not B O T H

Well, Reddit is the 4th most visited site on the internet, so that would affect a lot.

And 4Chan... there's always going to be other sites like it that'll pop up (Hell, it already has cousin sites, with Google even refusing to link to them).
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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:37 am

New haven america wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Why not B O T H

Well, Reddit is the 4th most visited site on the internet, so that would affect a lot.

And 4Chan... there's always going to be other sites like it that'll pop up (Hell, it already has cousin sites, with Google even refusing to link to them).

More of a reason to. I've never seen anything positice outside of the AMAs come from it.

Well yeah, but that just means people will find a way to be edgy anyway
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:28 am

Calladan wrote:
TrustMe wrote:It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants


I would LOVE to see that. And a genderswapped version of Gone With The Wind would be a work of genius.

...Why? You're simply switching the gender of the character. What would be so genius about a female Rhett Butler, or a male Scarlett? Scarlett will continue to be Scarlett, Rhett will continue to be Rhett. I'm not saying it would be a bad thing, simply there's nothing 'genius' about simply switching the gender of the character. The 'genius' would be in switching the genders and managing to keep their dynamic from the original novel, which would admittedly make for an interesting story. I'd at least read it, considering I loved the original novel.

As for Sisterhood?...Hnghhhh...simply not my kind of lit. Though it would be funny to see four dudebros talking philosophical about a pair of old jeans.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:30 am

Minoa wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Realism.

Well, I tell you what. When you resurrect yourself at the end of your life, if you're still male. then I'll concede you have a point.

When we're talking about a science fiction show that has already had other aliens of the same race (Gallifreyian) switch genders, I am less likely to consider such complaints as anything more than silliness.

In science fiction, anything happens. Anything.

Within the rules of its own universe, anyway...or at least that's how it's supposed to be.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:34 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well, Reddit is the 4th most visited site on the internet, so that would affect a lot.

And 4Chan... there's always going to be other sites like it that'll pop up (Hell, it already has cousin sites, with Google even refusing to link to them).

More of a reason to. I've never seen anything positice outside of the AMAs come from it.

Well yeah, but that just means people will find a way to be edgy anyway

The best reddit is away from the main pages and on the smaller dedicated subreddits.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:12 am

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Kvatchdom wrote:More of a reason to. I've never seen anything positice outside of the AMAs come from it.

Well yeah, but that just means people will find a way to be edgy anyway

The best reddit is away from the main pages and on the smaller dedicated subreddits.

I dont use reddit myself, well... i dont have an account or anything on it but i do like to have a look every now and then on subreddits for certain games or shows i like.
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Postby Minoa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:35 am

Luminesa wrote:
Minoa wrote:In science fiction, anything happens. Anything.

Within the rules of its own universe, anyway...or at least that's how it's supposed to be.

Well, whoever conceives said science fiction has the final say. ;)
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:38 am

Minoa wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Within the rules of its own universe, anyway...or at least that's how it's supposed to be.

Well, whoever conceives said science fiction has the final say. ;)

True.
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Postby Katganistan » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:38 am

TrustMe wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is this "ruining" the show?

It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants

They genderswapped in the new Battlestar Galactica series and it was just fine, thanks.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:41 am

TrustMe wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is this "ruining" the show?

It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants

Yeah only men should play lead roles. How dare you show women leaders in television too!

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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:41 am

If genderswapping can work for The Master it can work for The Doctor...
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