NATION

PASSWORD

Doctor Who's First Female Doctor

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
TrustMe
Attaché
 
Posts: 78
Founded: Aug 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby TrustMe » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:57 pm

I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work

User avatar
Calladan
Minister
 
Posts: 3064
Founded: Jul 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:01 pm

There's a Dr Who MOVIE??? I thought after the last one they would've learned their lesson :)
Tara A McGill, Ambassador to Lucinda G Doyle III
"Always be yourself, unless you can be Zathras. Then be Zathras"
A Rough Guide To Calladan | The Seven Years of Darkness | Ambassador McGill's Facebook Page
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, providing they are Christian & white" - Trump

User avatar
Calladan
Minister
 
Posts: 3064
Founded: Jul 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:02 pm

TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work


I know. Why can't women just stay in the kitchen where they belong. I think all this problem started when they got the vote! I knew that would be a mistake!!!

(/s)
Tara A McGill, Ambassador to Lucinda G Doyle III
"Always be yourself, unless you can be Zathras. Then be Zathras"
A Rough Guide To Calladan | The Seven Years of Darkness | Ambassador McGill's Facebook Page
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, providing they are Christian & white" - Trump

User avatar
Astrolinium
Post Czar
 
Posts: 36603
Founded: Mar 05, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:07 pm

Calladan wrote:There's a Dr Who MOVIE??? I thought after the last one they would've learned their lesson :)


No, no there isn't. Well, there's one. As you know. But a new one is not, at this time, happening.
The Sublime Island Kingdom of Astrolinium
Ilia Franchisco Attore, King Attorio Maldive III
North Carolina | NSIndex Page | Embassies
Pop: 3,082 | Tech: MT | DEFCON: 5-4-3-2-1
SEE YOU SPACE COWBOY...
About Me: Ravenclaw, Gay, Cis Male, 5’4”.
"Don't you forget about me."

Ex-Delegate of Ankh Mauta | NSG Sodomy Club
Minor Acolyte of the Vast Jewlluminati Conspiracy™

User avatar
Calladan
Minister
 
Posts: 3064
Founded: Jul 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:27 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Calladan wrote:There's a Dr Who MOVIE??? I thought after the last one they would've learned their lesson :)


No, no there isn't. Well, there's one. As you know. But a new one is not, at this time, happening.


Thank the gods for that. Seriously - never been so happy about anything. And I have woken up three times after heart surgery, so that really puts it in perspective :)
Tara A McGill, Ambassador to Lucinda G Doyle III
"Always be yourself, unless you can be Zathras. Then be Zathras"
A Rough Guide To Calladan | The Seven Years of Darkness | Ambassador McGill's Facebook Page
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, providing they are Christian & white" - Trump

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 68115
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:10 pm

TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work


So how is this "ruining" the show?
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

"Have you ever had a moment online, when the need to prove someone wrong has outweighed your own self-preservation instincts?"

User avatar
The Empire of Pretantia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 39273
Founded: Oct 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:12 pm

TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work

Bruh it's literally just a sex change, it's even preestablished canon.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
The Fate Series
US politics

User avatar
The Huskar Social Union
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 59297
Founded: Apr 04, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:12 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work

Bruh it's literally just a sex change, it's even preestablished canon.

But its Ruined™
Irish Nationalist from Belfast / Leftwing / Atheist / Alliance Party voter
"I never thought in terms of being a leader, i thought very simply in terms of helping people" - John Hume 1937 - 2020



I like Miniature painting, Tanks, English Gals, Video games and most importantly Cheese.


User avatar
Soldati Senza Confini
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 86050
Founded: Mar 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:13 pm

Eh, I want to see what they do with her.

It's going to be a really interesting change, to say the least.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

User avatar
Soldati Senza Confini
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 86050
Founded: Mar 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:14 pm

TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work


Erm... it's not SJW-ism.

The director of Doctor Who already wanted to do something with the Doctor in this way even before SJW-ism was a thing, IIRC.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 87331
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:52 pm

TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work

What is wrong with doing something thats established canon in the show? It was talked about as early as the late 1980s when it was time for Colin Baker's regeneration.

User avatar
Katganistan
Senior Game Moderator
 
Posts: 37014
Founded: Antiquity
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Katganistan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:10 pm

TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work


I know, right?

I mean it's not as if women's roles were ever played by men, or women played men in the good old days! That would be icky.
Last edited by Katganistan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
The Horseland
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 9
Founded: Mar 13, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby The Horseland » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:31 pm

To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.

User avatar
Calladan
Minister
 
Posts: 3064
Founded: Jul 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:33 pm

The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


Okay - go to a mirror and say that with a straight face. I dare you :)
Tara A McGill, Ambassador to Lucinda G Doyle III
"Always be yourself, unless you can be Zathras. Then be Zathras"
A Rough Guide To Calladan | The Seven Years of Darkness | Ambassador McGill's Facebook Page
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, providing they are Christian & white" - Trump

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 68115
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:58 pm

The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


Because a show about a multi millenia-old alien who travels through time and space needs realism.
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

"Have you ever had a moment online, when the need to prove someone wrong has outweighed your own self-preservation instincts?"

User avatar
Calladan
Minister
 
Posts: 3064
Founded: Jul 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:06 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


Because a show about a multi millenia-old alien who travels through time and space needs realism.


See - that part I believe could be real. A civilisation that old could easily have conquered the intricacies of travelling through time and space. And the whole regeneration thing - that kind of makes sense.

No - the part where I lost it was when Bill pointed out that if the Doctor's vehicle was named on Gallifrey, how could it possibly be called a TARDIS that things started to fall apart for me :) (And how, in around 35 years of watching the show, had that never occurred to me before?)
Tara A McGill, Ambassador to Lucinda G Doyle III
"Always be yourself, unless you can be Zathras. Then be Zathras"
A Rough Guide To Calladan | The Seven Years of Darkness | Ambassador McGill's Facebook Page
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, providing they are Christian & white" - Trump

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:10 pm

Calladan wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because a show about a multi millenia-old alien who travels through time and space needs realism.


See - that part I believe could be real. A civilisation that old could easily have conquered the intricacies of travelling through time and space. And the whole regeneration thing - that kind of makes sense.

No - the part where I lost it was when Bill pointed out that if the Doctor's vehicle was named on Gallifrey, how could it possibly be called a TARDIS that things started to fall apart for me :) (And how, in around 35 years of watching the show, had that never occurred to me before?)


Susan named it. :P

User avatar
Skylus
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6511
Founded: Oct 25, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Skylus » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:15 pm

Yes she did.
Proud Member of OCReMix.org and Pixel Mixers
Like to draw, play piano, play video games.
YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/mericalgirl1234
To avoid confusion on forums - I am female
VTtM: Madison Goodwill, Link (WW), Amaterasu, Alt. Future Link, Link (TP), Link (BotW) (I’m a Zelda fan okay)
Hogwarts: Derek Forester, Madison Goodwill
RoP: Madison Goodwill, Link (BotW)

Love this site it is awesome, no I am not changing my flag because it is amazing.

User avatar
Calladan
Minister
 
Posts: 3064
Founded: Jul 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Calladan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Calladan wrote:
See - that part I believe could be real. A civilisation that old could easily have conquered the intricacies of travelling through time and space. And the whole regeneration thing - that kind of makes sense.

No - the part where I lost it was when Bill pointed out that if the Doctor's vehicle was named on Gallifrey, how could it possibly be called a TARDIS that things started to fall apart for me :) (And how, in around 35 years of watching the show, had that never occurred to me before?)


Susan named it. :P


Yes, but I am sure we have heard other Time Lord refer to their TARDIS. The Master, maybe, or someone on Gallifrey itself. I will have a scoot around tomorrow (it's late and I should be in bed) to see if I can find a clip of The Master talking about his TARDIS (because if he does, he cannot have picked that up from Susan, surely?)
Last edited by Calladan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tara A McGill, Ambassador to Lucinda G Doyle III
"Always be yourself, unless you can be Zathras. Then be Zathras"
A Rough Guide To Calladan | The Seven Years of Darkness | Ambassador McGill's Facebook Page
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, providing they are Christian & white" - Trump

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:23 pm

Calladan wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Susan named it. :P


Yes, but I am sure we have heard other Time Lord refer to their TARDIS. The Master, maybe, or someone on Gallifrey itself. I will have a scoot around tomorrow (it's late and I should be in bed) to see if I can find a clip of The Master talking about his TARDIS (because if he does, he cannot have picked that up from Susan, surely?)


Time Travel. :)

User avatar
TrustMe
Attaché
 
Posts: 78
Founded: Aug 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby TrustMe » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:45 pm

Vassenor wrote:
TrustMe wrote:I really don't see the reason for this

Will sjws ever learn that ruining entertainment by turning men's roles into women's roles are not going to work


So how is this "ruining" the show?

It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants
Last edited by TrustMe on Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Josepf Stalin
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 128
Founded: Jan 12, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Josepf Stalin » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:52 pm

Doctor Who is a liberal bourgeois show. It does not matter if the main star is a woman, as that does nothing to stop actual sexism or patriarchy.
I support the USSR ☭

I support DPRK, China, Cuba, and Syria in their struggle against American imperialism ☭

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:02 pm

TrustMe wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is this "ruining" the show?

It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants


The Sisterhood of the Travelling what now?

User avatar
NeoOasis
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1099
Founded: Apr 07, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby NeoOasis » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:37 pm

The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


This has to be tongue in cheek. I'd argue it's strange we've had 12 doctors without a change in gender or even race. As for learning realism... really? A regenerating time traveling alien who lives inside a inter-dimensional police box and has a sonic screwdriver that doesn't work on wood needs to learn realism because the gender changed? Are we really gonna ignore the toilet plungers on Daleks? Dr. Who was never about realism, and I'm interested to see where it goes from here.
Eternally salty, quite tired, and perhaps looking for a brighter future.

User avatar
Katganistan
Senior Game Moderator
 
Posts: 37014
Founded: Antiquity
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Katganistan » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:41 pm

The Horseland wrote:To me the Doctor must either always be male, or alternate sensibly. A bunch of male doctors, then one female? Pretty unlikely. Doctor Who really needs to learn realism.


Realism.

Well, I tell you what. When you resurrect yourself at the end of your life, if you're still male. then I'll concede you have a point.

When we're talking about a science fiction show that has already had other aliens of the same race (Gallifreyian) switch genders, I am less likely to consider such complaints as anything more than silliness.
Last edited by Katganistan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bovad, Eahland, Kubra, New Heldervinia, Saiwana, Sky Reavers

Advertisement

Remove ads