[Abortion][REVISED POLL] If you had the power...

[The New California Republic]

What are you talking about? Where on earth was it ever said that all pro-lifers have to answer for pro-birthers?

Also, I don't have to answer for anything. You, on the other hand, have a lot of explaining to do in relation to your derogatory comments about women.

Apparently, you don't know what derogatory means. It means saying or doing something meant to demean a demographic. Considering I have been equally as harsh on men.

And you are saying that you haven't said derogatory things about women in the course of this thread? Really? Really?
And no, I haven't seen you applying the same standard to men, whereby you think it is also OK to emotionally abuse a man. So don't even try to say that you treat men and women equally harshly, it just isn't true.

[The New California Republic]

You didn't try to straw man my side with that ridiculous question? Look I have said constantly that I am full fledged pro life here is a list of positions I hold
Anti gun
Pro life
Pro UHC
Pro Immigration
Anti War
Anti Death penalty
Pro financial aid
Pro free schooling through college
Pro Universal income
Pro Adoption (which if it was not so expensive (50K in my state for a baby) I would do after college)
Pro Preventive birth control not the after pill!
I support changing the foster care system to make it easier for good families to keep the child and not move them around every few months
Pro free food for children in school all 3 meals!
I would support Universal Housing if it was a thing
Now tell me is this not PRO LIFE!

and may I ask, how does this have any correlation with what they have said.

Keshiland goes off on tangents a lot when he is losing an argument. It is just a thing that he does as a distraction tactic.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Keshi, we've asked you to answer for YOUR statements here. Not for anyone else. But it would seem you can't even manage that, from what you keep posting, preferring to dance around various topics or posts, and take off on some other track instead. Waste of time, folks. Waste. Of. Time, trying to communicate on a meaningful level here.

[Attempted Socialism]

Because it's an accurate description of your position, as the example you refused to answer some 10 pages ago showcased.
Kid, just because you don't feel like defending your position, doesn't mean you can strawman the hell out of any opposing position. Pro-choice is exactly that: Giving the woman the choice of whether to terminate their pregnancy or not. Anyone proposing mandatory abortions are, by definition, taking choice away from women. They're forcing their opinion on women just as much as you are; you're both anti-choice (The only difference being that you actually hold your abhorrent position, while no 'mandatory abortion' political or policy position exists).

You didn't try to straw man my side with that ridiculous question? Look I have said constantly that I am full fledged pro life here is a list of positions I hold
Anti gun
Pro life
Pro UHC
Pro Immigration
Anti War
Anti Death penalty
Pro financial aid
Pro free schooling through college
Pro Universal income
Pro Adoption (which if it was not so expensive (50K in my state for a baby) I would do after college)
Pro Preventive birth control not the after pill!
I support changing the foster care system to make it easier for good families to keep the child and not move them around every few months
Pro free food for children in school all 3 meals!
I would support Universal Housing if it was a thing
Now tell me is this not PRO LIFE!

It's not. You're trying to mask being anti-choice and anti-women behind a bunch of other policies, while still identifying solely your anti-choice policy stance as "pro"-"life". Your "pro"-"life" stance was revealed to be either a lie, solely "pro"-birth or some double standard earlier, when you refused to explain what you based your different responses to basically the same case on. The question was never whether you'd force a mother to give up her body for 9 months in one or both cases, but why; on what basis you arrived at such a decision. This was the start of your dodging, but the result (That you're not actually pro life, just anti-choice and anti-women, something that your absolutely despicable stance of intimidating, immobilising, socially ostracising and abusing women, to the point of purposefully setting up your relationship so that you can always make them homeless if they are unwilling to become your servant and broodmare in a relationship you have already declared is not about and will not include love reinforces beyond belief) was pretty clear already.
So people claiming to be in favour of forced abortions (Again, just to reiterate, this is not an actual political or policy position seen in reality) are decidedly anti-choice (Like you are, if with different justifications), while you're clearly a "pro"-birth, rather than any kind of sane pro-life; no matter how you try to justify it. You're also, because of your own consistent claims, obviously anti-choice and anti-women, and I'd really advice you to seek professional help if your posts containing what looks to me like signs of delusions, narcissism, megalomania and some kind of anti-social personality disorder are truly your opinions about yourself and the world. Being pro-choice is being both against forced pregnancy and forced abortion, while if any forced abortion politicians existed, you could ally with them in taking choice away from women, even if for different purposes.

[Katganistan]

Just wanted to warn everyone Trumpcare is back and this is what the new incarnation will do.

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IS NO BUDGE ON ABORTION WORTH THIS?

Broccoli is green! WHY DOESN'T ANYONE DECORATE IT WITH LIGHTS AND ORNAMENTS FOR CHRISTMAS?

I am not sure I understand your premise.

To show that democrats dealing with abortion instead of real issues has caused us to get this legislature

Abortion is a real issue. The denial of it ruins lives.

[The of Japan]

Just wanted to warn everyone Trumpcare is back and this is what the new incarnation will do.

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IS NO BUDGE ON ABORTION WORTH THIS?

I don't support the AHCA, but its not like the ACA is that good either.

[Katganistan]

ABORTION IS WRONG end of story

It's amazing how people who don't even have an argument to present just come in here with pronouncements that it's their way, end of discussion.

It's not the end of the discussion. Learn to present an argument, or go home.

[The New California Republic]

Just wanted to warn everyone Trumpcare is back and this is what the new incarnation will do.

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IS NO BUDGE ON ABORTION WORTH THIS?

Broccoli is green! WHY DOESN'T ANYONE DECORATE IT WITH LIGHTS AND ORNAMENTS FOR CHRISTMAS?

I turned into a giggling idiot when I read this.

[Katganistan]

plus I have watched a documentary on the founder of planned parenthood and she was all for killing innocent little ones and she was a Nazi supporter

Sources, or go home.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The greatest weapon against abortion (in light of the new poll) is obviously the coffers of the state manifesting its power in providing for the welfare of children born in difficult circumstances and ensuring their good upbringing. However, would still be those who would murder their unborn children for other reasons, and this should still be combated with laws protecting the lives of the unborn from the unscrupulous.

[Vassenor]

So have we had any explanation for how emotionally blackmailing women into not aborting isn't abuse?

[The New California Republic]

The greatest weapon against abortion (in light of the new poll) is obviously the coffers of the state manifesting its power in providing for the welfare of children born in difficult circumstances and ensuring their good upbringing. However, would still be those who would murder their unborn children for other reasons, and this should still be combated with laws protecting the lives of the unborn from the unscrupulous.

All of this conveniently ignores the woman at first, and then when it does eventually mention her in a roundabout indirect way, it treats her like a criminal...

[New Portucalia]

So have we had any explanation for how emotionally blackmailing women into not aborting isn't abuse?

Nope, Keshi has stopped replying.

[The of Japan]

So have we had any explanation for how emotionally blackmailing women into not aborting isn't abuse?

Nope, Keshi has stopped replying.

of course, Keshi is a typical type that, once he/her realizes the bullshit wont work, leaves without a word

[The New California Republic]

So have we had any explanation for how emotionally blackmailing women into not aborting isn't abuse?

I think that question will need to be filed away in the archives. Permanently. I don't think Keshiland will ever offer an explanation beyond simply saying "reasons".

[VoVoDoCo]

I'm not asking you to answer to pro birth. Who here is?

I mean in general anytime I gave this debate "online" "people say your not pro life your pro birth." "Pro life only care about the baby while its in the womb." I know you have seen it happen before.

So real quick:

ProLife- Advocating the legal protection of human embryos and fetuses, especially by favoring the outlawing of abortion on the ground that it is the taking of a human life.
ProBirth- Someone who is against people having the ability to have an abortion regardless of the health of the mother or the health of the fetus. [THERE IS NO ACTUAL DEFINITION FOR PRO BIRTH. IT'S URBAN DICTIONARY NOT WEBSTER]

Which are you? Just for the record.

[VoVoDoCo]

I mean in general anytime I gave this debate "online" "people say your not pro life your pro birth." "Pro life only care about the baby while its in the womb." I know you have seen it happen before.

So real quick:

ProLife- Advocating the legal protection of human embryos and fetuses, especially by favoring the outlawing of abortion on the ground that it is the taking of a human life.
ProBirth- Someone who is against people having the ability to have an abortion regardless of the health of the mother or the health of the fetus. [THERE IS NO ACTUAL DEFINITION FOR PRO BIRTH. IT'S URBAN DICTIONARY NOT WEBSTER]

Which are you? Just for the record.

This is just so no one calls you what isn't accurate.

[Keshiland]

So real quick:

ProLife- Advocating the legal protection of human embryos and fetuses, especially by favoring the outlawing of abortion on the ground that it is the taking of a human life.
ProBirth- Someone who is against people having the ability to have an abortion regardless of the health of the mother or the health of the fetus. [THERE IS NO ACTUAL DEFINITION FOR PRO BIRTH. IT'S URBAN DICTIONARY NOT WEBSTER]

Which are you? Just for the record.

This is just so no one calls you what isn't accurate.

Pro life.

[VoVoDoCo]

ABORTION IS WRONG end of story

It's amazing how people who don't even have an argument to present just come in here with pronouncements that it's their way, end of discussion.

It's not the end of the discussion. Learn to present an argument, or go home.

Are you in a position of power to be able to look at a few nations and see if they're the same person?
Because Israel Peace and Keshi are eerily similar...
I know it's not against the rules or anything to have multiple nations but could you tell us?

[United Muscovite Nations]

The greatest weapon against abortion (in light of the new poll) is obviously the coffers of the state manifesting its power in providing for the welfare of children born in difficult circumstances and ensuring their good upbringing. However, would still be those who would murder their unborn children for other reasons, and this should still be combated with laws protecting the lives of the unborn from the unscrupulous.

All of this conveniently ignores the woman at first, and then when it does eventually mention her in a roundabout indirect way, it treats her like a criminal...

A woman who procures an abortion for any reason other than lifesaving medical treatment should be a criminal, yes.

[The of Japan]

All of this conveniently ignores the woman at first, and then when it does eventually mention her in a roundabout indirect way, it treats her like a criminal...

A woman who procures an abortion for any reason other than lifesaving medical treatment should be a criminal, yes.

woah slow down there pal

[VoVoDoCo]

All of this conveniently ignores the woman at first, and then when it does eventually mention her in a roundabout indirect way, it treats her like a criminal...

A woman who procures an abortion for any reason other than lifesaving medical treatment should be a criminal, yes.

Because it's murder?

[The New California Republic]

All of this conveniently ignores the woman at first, and then when it does eventually mention her in a roundabout indirect way, it treats her like a criminal...

A woman who procures an abortion for any reason other than lifesaving medical treatment should be a criminal, yes.

It is great how you treat women as mere afterthought.

[United Muscovite Nations]

A woman who procures an abortion for any reason other than lifesaving medical treatment should be a criminal, yes.

Because it's murder?

Yes, of course.

[New Portucalia]

All of this conveniently ignores the woman at first, and then when it does eventually mention her in a roundabout indirect way, it treats her like a criminal...

A woman who procures an abortion for any reason other than lifesaving medical treatment should be a criminal, yes.

What about in cases of malformation of the fetus, rape or teenage pregnancy? Do you still keep your opinion that someone who can't keep the child, a rape victim and a child should be prosecuted? Won't bother with anything else since it's obvious you don't care about the mother herself.