Should School Attendance be Compulsory?

[Valgora]

In the United States it is compulsory, we have to go from kindergarten till 12th grade, but I can say that, having graduated, that it does help people a lot.

Not compulsory enough. I live in the US too m8. College should be free and compulsory.

I agree with making college free, but I don't think college should be compulsory.

[Neutraligon]

What do you mean worse? ACA increased insurance premiums substantially, which is what I'd define as worse.

In the US insurance companies could deny your claim for any reason, after the ACA that changed and they couldn't do that. Also before the ACA if you had a pre existing condition you couldn't get health insurance. And actually depending on where you lived your insurance premiums dropped

That and the reason the ACA was implemented is because of the increasing costs of insurance.

[Imperializt Russia]

The US system was even worse BEFORE the ACA

What do you mean worse? ACA increased insurance premiums substantially, which is what I'd define as worse.

And even before it was introduced, Americans still paid enormously more, per person, than Brits.
And our system serves everyone, not just those arbitrarily wealthy enough to afford it.

Privatising the NHS would not save costs. Have you seen literally any privatised industry in the UK???

[Zozon]

Not compulsory enough. I live in the US too m8. College should be free and compulsory.

As I said before; education isn't just a right, it is a necessity. This way we don't end up with Presidents who deny science.

I think you read me wrong. I meant free as in you pay $0.00 to attend college, and attendance is compulsory.

[The V O I D]

It's not learning that's boring, its teachers. I enjoy learning because my teachers are engaging and make the topics fun and interesting, as well as allowing us to socialize and work in groups.

Need to do this everywhere, make it fun for everyone. Of course, there's always going to be those people who prefer to work alone, so let them do that so you don't hurt their education because they end up feeling restricted by a group.

Why do you think I mentioned the TA's accommodating different student's learning styles? I know. I was one of those students whose learning style didn't fit the learning styles the schools were structured for.

Ah. Well, still; you see my point for why teachers need to make the topics engaging and fun. Otherwise, it ends up feeling boring and it is hard to pay attention to.

[Salandriagado]

Yes schooling should be compulsory till 18. Education should not be something left to the free market. Schooling shouldnt be about supply and demand and being competitive. What's to stop an area from saying oh we don't like x group so therefore we won't build any schools in their area? Education is a right of all.

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

Look at the utter shitshow that US textbooks are in. That is what happens if you try to do education on a for profit basis.

[Zozon]

Not compulsory enough. I live in the US too m8. College should be free and compulsory.

I agree with making college free, but I don't think college should be compulsory.

Then there should at least be incentives

[Thermodolia]

As I said before; education isn't just a right, it is a necessity. This way we don't end up with Presidents who deny science.

I think you read me wrong. I meant free as in you pay $0.00 to attend college, and attendance is compulsory.

I don't think they read you wrong

[The V O I D]

As I said before; education isn't just a right, it is a necessity. This way we don't end up with Presidents who deny science.

I think you read me wrong. I meant free as in you pay $0.00 to attend college, and attendance is compulsory.

I know that. That's why I said 'education is a necessity'. Because a necessity is something above just simple rights.

[Thermodolia]

I agree with making college free, but I don't think college should be compulsory.

Then there should at least be incentives

Not just for college though. Trade and technical schools shouldn't be left out

[Zozon]

I think you read me wrong. I meant free as in you pay $0.00 to attend college, and attendance is compulsory.

I know that. That's why I said 'education is a necessity'. Because a necessity is something above just simple rights.

Now I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not...

[Calladan]

Children should be required to go to school for one simple reason :-

We are living in an ever more technological age. The future of our world - despite what some would have you think - lies in science and technology. Computers are getting more powerful, bugs and diseases are getting more virulent and complex. The universe is getting smaller - planets that used to be just names are now, in theory, in reach within the lifetime of a child born today.

We need an educated populace, an educated next generation. We do not need our world to regress to the dark ages of superstition and denial. Our children have to learn everything there is to learn, and then learn everything new there is to learn.

And they can't do that if they don't have the basic foundations of maths, language and science.

Not every kid will be the next Stephen Hawking, the next Neil Armstrong, the next Marie Curie or the next Yuri Gagarin, but if we don't have the next ones then we will just stay where we are - stagnant and stuck. We won't progress, we won't advance.

And kids need to be educated so they can learn to tell the difference between truth and lies, between fact and fiction. When the Brexit campaign was dominated by who could tell the biggest lies, and America seems to be more about fake news than real news, teaching children to make up their own minds could be the most important thing that they are ever taught.

Education can be the silver bullet to so many problems, but only if kids actually show up.

Basically - Kids need to be educated so the human race, as a society, can advance.

[Thermodolia]

I know that. That's why I said 'education is a necessity'. Because a necessity is something above just simple rights.

Now I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not...

He's agreeing with you

[The V O I D]

Now I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not...

He's agreeing with you

I feel like he's just having trouble understanding what I'm saying.

[Oldenfranck]

In many cases today, vocational training is more valuable than traditional college degrees. We should look into funding those some more, or at least incorporate some more relevant life skills into school curriculums. Let's teach kids how to cooks steaks, change tires, balance budgets and etc. instead of underwater basketweaving, Latin, and comic book analyzation.

[Thermodolia]

In many cases today, vocational training is more valuable than traditional college degrees. We should look into funding those some more, or at least incorporate some more relevant life skills into school curriculums. Let's teach kids how to cooks steaks, change tires, balance budgets and etc. instead of underwater basketweaving, Latin, and comic book analyzation.

I know that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell but I have no idea how to fill out a resume or file taxes

[Oldenfranck]

In many cases today, vocational training is more valuable than traditional college degrees. We should look into funding those some more, or at least incorporate some more relevant life skills into school curriculums. Let's teach kids how to cooks steaks, change tires, balance budgets and etc. instead of underwater basketweaving, Latin, and comic book analyzation.

I know that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell but I have no idea how to fill out a resume or file taxes

My point exactly, no offense meant, (I am in the same position).

[Thermodolia]

I know that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell but I have no idea how to fill out a resume or file taxes

My point exactly, no offense meant, (I am in the same position).

None taken. Many people of my generation are in the same position

[Calladan]

I know that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell but I have no idea how to fill out a resume or file taxes

My point exactly, no offense meant, (I am in the same position).

I am (modesty aside) a truly superb computer programmer, but if my car breaks down, or I get a flat tire, I am screwed. My lateral thinking skills are second to none, but ask me to cook sausage, egg and chips and I would probably poison you.

I still say we need to teach kids science and critical thinking, but yeah - I can see more vocational stuff being helpful as well

[Internationalist Bastard]

My point exactly, no offense meant, (I am in the same position).

I am (modesty aside) a truly superb computer programmer, but if my car breaks down, or I get a flat tire, I am screwed. My lateral thinking skills are second to none, but ask me to cook sausage, egg and chips and I would probably poison you.

I still say we need to teach kids science and critical thinking, but yeah - I can see more vocational stuff being helpful as well

Meanwhile I know...agriculture and...some basic egineering...yeah I don't think school sunk in well for me

[Zozon]

He's agreeing with you

I feel like he's just having trouble understanding what I'm saying.

Yeah, I thought you were disagreeing, so I got confused.

[Sarigen]

Yes! It is, in my country (province), until age 18. Parents who inhibit or are negligent in their children's education, face fines, prosecution, and eventually the re-homing of their children. If not compulsory, what has been found to happen, is that parents remove their kids from school to help out around the house, or the kids themselves simply don't bother going to school. Sometimes, it is very inconvenient to get a kid to school, depending on where you live, so some parents won't bother. The free market philosophy and politics isn't helpful to these kids, who are robbed of an education.

Once someone reaches adulthood, then of course, their right to an education is theirs to squander if they choose. But children need to be protected, and compulsory education protects their right to an education.

[Kubra]

In many cases today, vocational training is more valuable than traditional college degrees. We should look into funding those some more, or at least incorporate some more relevant life skills into school curriculums. Let's teach kids how to cooks steaks, change tires, balance budgets and etc. instead of underwater basketweaving, Latin, and comic book analyzation.

Do american high schools not offer technical and vocational classes? Serious question. I know that here in leafland education on how the fuck to do taxes is also sorely lacking.

[Major-Tom]

Until secondary/high school, yes.

[Katganistan]

So education should be about profit now. Got it and companies teach whatever they deem important.

And if what they deem important is what parents deem important, then they will go there, if otherwise, they won't.
Also, if nobody has a good curriculum, then parents will choose homeschooling.

Really? Do we expect parents now to be experts in maths, sciences, history, languages and literature on top of their day-to-day jobs and taking care of raising, feeding and sheltering a family?