Wearing of anything with religious symbols in public

[Laxaria and Sakria]

Freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitutions of every Westernized nation in the world. I don't know if it also entails freedom of irreligion, but rest assured that you can practice your own religion and still not get into a lot of cultural trouble for it.

I've read some cases about Christians being disallowed from wearing any jewelry featuring a crucifix or any Christian symbol:

• University Tells Studen to Remove Cross Necklace
• Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government
• Employer can bar staff from wearing religious symbols, top EU court says

I know, these are all cases where a Christian was involved, but it can happen to anyone regardless of religion. I wear a bracelet with a crucifix (sans Jesus nailed on it) and nobody ever seems to shit on me for that (Philippines, lol, but I'll find myself in the Supreme Court in no time when I do the same thing in the US). In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?

Sure, we Christians may not be required to wear anything featuring a crucifix (or any depiction of canonical Bible stories or significant figures), but just because we aren't required to wear anything doesn't mean we must ban it.

NS, be the judge.

[The Imperium Empires]

People can wear anything they want, just don't preach your religion to me and we will be fine.

[Vassenor]

Freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitutions of every Westernized nation in the world. I don't know if it also entails freedom of irreligion, but rest assured that you can practice your own religion and still not get into a lot of cultural trouble for it.

I've read some cases about Christians being disallowed from wearing any jewelry featuring a crucifix or any Christian symbol:

• University Tells Studen to Remove Cross Necklace
• Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government

I know, these are all cases where a Christian was involved, but it can happen to anyone regardless of religion. I wear a bracelet with a crucifix (sans Jesus nailed on it) and nobody ever seems to shit on me for that (Philippines, lol). In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?

Sure, we Christians may not be required to wear anything featuring a crucifix (or any depiction of canonical Bible stories or significant figures), but just because we aren't required to wear anything doesn't mean we must ban it.

NS, be the judge.

Point of order: "No right to do something" is not the same thing as "cannot do something".

[Laxaria and Sakria]

Freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitutions of every Westernized nation in the world. I don't know if it also entails freedom of irreligion, but rest assured that you can practice your own religion and still not get into a lot of cultural trouble for it.

I've read some cases about Christians being disallowed from wearing any jewelry featuring a crucifix or any Christian symbol:

• University Tells Studen to Remove Cross Necklace
• Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government

I know, these are all cases where a Christian was involved, but it can happen to anyone regardless of religion. I wear a bracelet with a crucifix (sans Jesus nailed on it) and nobody ever seems to shit on me for that (Philippines, lol). In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?

Sure, we Christians may not be required to wear anything featuring a crucifix (or any depiction of canonical Bible stories or significant figures), but just because we aren't required to wear anything doesn't mean we must ban it.

NS, be the judge.

Point of order: "No right to do something" is not the same thing as "cannot do something".

This is how I see it:

Assume I wear my crucifix bracelet in an alt. reality US where you do not have the right to wear such. You are saying that despite me not having the right to do so, I can do that?

Did I get your statement right?

[Laxaria and Sakria]

People can wear anything they want, just don't preach your religion to me and we will be fine.

Pretty much my point. For one I refrain as much as possible from proselytizing.

[Wansul]

This is a stupid law! (I'd add curse words but then the mods so...) This restricts freedom of expression. I am not saying this bevuase I am Christian. I am an atheist, but you should be able to wear whatever you want in public! I am a libertarian, and this is a restriction of basic civil rights!

[The New California Republic]

In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?.

Freedom of religion =/= freedom to wear whatever you want (or lack of). Taking an extreme example, if my religion dictated that I had to be naked in public, all the time, I think other people would have issue with it. Freedom of religion is not a licence to wear (or not wear) whatever you please.

However, whether this extends to wearing low-key religious symbols (such as necklaces, bracelets, beads, etc) in public is another matter entirely, but I suppose it all depends on the context.

I suppose the question needs to be asked: why do Christians feel the need to wear crosses in the first place? Is their own faith not enough, in that they feel the need to broadcast it to everyone? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians need to wear religious symbols. If anything, wearing a cross potentially falls under the sin of Pride...

[Lady Scylla]

Freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitutions of every Westernized nation in the world. I don't know if it also entails freedom of irreligion, but rest assured that you can practice your own religion and still not get into a lot of cultural trouble for it.

I've read some cases about Christians being disallowed from wearing any jewelry featuring a crucifix or any Christian symbol:

• University Tells Studen to Remove Cross Necklace
• Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government
• Employer can bar staff from wearing religious symbols, top EU court says

I know, these are all cases where a Christian was involved, but it can happen to anyone regardless of religion. I wear a bracelet with a crucifix (sans Jesus nailed on it) and nobody ever seems to shit on me for that (Philippines, lol, but I'll find myself in the Supreme Court in no time when I do the same thing in the US). In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?

Sure, we Christians may not be required to wear anything featuring a crucifix (or any depiction of canonical Bible stories or significant figures), but just because we aren't required to wear anything doesn't mean we must ban it.

NS, be the judge.

I was told to remove my pentacle necklace one time in HS because it was 'inappropriate'. Took threatening with a lawyer and contact local news to get them to pipe it.

[Xelsis]

I suppose the question needs to be asked: why do Christians feel the need to wear crosses in the first place? Is their own faith not enough, in that they feel the need to broadcast it to everyone? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians need to wear religious symbols. If anything, wearing a cross potentially falls under the sin of Pride...

A better question to be asked: Why the heck is that the government's business? Since when is it their job to critique someone's theology? Who gave them the power to rule on the spiritual benefits or detriments of cross-wearing?

[Gages Icelandic Army]

Freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitutions of every Westernized nation in the world. I don't know if it also entails freedom of irreligion, but rest assured that you can practice your own religion and still not get into a lot of cultural trouble for it.

I've read some cases about Christians being disallowed from wearing any jewelry featuring a crucifix or any Christian symbol:

• University Tells Studen to Remove Cross Necklace
• Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government
• Employer can bar staff from wearing religious symbols, top EU court says

I know, these are all cases where a Christian was involved, but it can happen to anyone regardless of religion. I wear a bracelet with a crucifix (sans Jesus nailed on it) and nobody ever seems to shit on me for that (Philippines, lol, but I'll find myself in the Supreme Court in no time when I do the same thing in the US). In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?

Sure, we Christians may not be required to wear anything featuring a crucifix (or any depiction of canonical Bible stories or significant figures), but just because we aren't required to wear anything doesn't mean we must ban it.

NS, be the judge.

Any country that allows for free religion also allows for irreligion. No government goes, "You can pick any religion you want! You can even pick a different then us!" but then turns around and punishes people for not believing.

[Marxilles]

No-one should be allowed to wear religious symbols in public.

Why? Herd mentality.

[Xelsis]

No-one should be allowed to wear religious symbols in public.

Why? Herd mentality.

That's....not a reason.

[Laxaria and Sakria]

In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?.

Freedom of religion =/= freedom to wear whatever you want (or lack of). Taking an extreme example, if my religion dictated that I had to be naked in public, all the time, I think other people would have issue with it. Freedom of religion is not a licence to wear (or not wear) whatever you please.

However, whether this extends to wearing low-key religious symbols (such as necklaces, bracelets, beads, etc) in public is another matter entirely, but I suppose it all depends on the context.

I suppose the question needs to be asked: why do Christians feel the need to wear crosses in the first place? Is their own faith not enough, in that they feel the need to broadcast it to everyone? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians need to wear religious symbols. If anything, wearing a cross potentially falls under the sin of Pride...

Pride being flaunting. And, probably, the worship of graven images.

[Socialist Nordia]

This is a stupid law! (I'd add curse words but then the mods so...) This restricts freedom of expression. I am not saying this bevuase I am Christian. I am an atheist, but you should be able to wear whatever you want in public! I am a libertarian, and this is a restriction of basic civil rights!

Curse words aren't actually banned by mods, as long as you're not spamming curses or directing them towards some other person in an offensive way, if I'm not mistaken.

[The New California Republic]

I suppose the question needs to be asked: why do Christians feel the need to wear crosses in the first place? Is their own faith not enough, in that they feel the need to broadcast it to everyone? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians need to wear religious symbols. If anything, wearing a cross potentially falls under the sin of Pride...

A better question to be asked: Why the heck is that the government's business? Since when is it their job to critique someone's theology? Who gave them the power to rule on the spiritual benefits or detriments of cross-wearing?

Where, in my statement, did I say that I was asking my question from a government perspective? I asked the question because I have studied theology, NOT that I was advocating that any government look at it from that perspective. I think you misinterpreted what I was saying. I was merely offering another perspective on the matter that hasn't yet been given on this thread...

[Gages Icelandic Army]

In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?.

Freedom of religion =/= freedom to wear whatever you want (or lack of). Taking an extreme example, if my religion dictated that I had to be naked in public, all the time, I think other people would have issue with it. Freedom of religion is not a licence to wear (or not wear) whatever you please.

However, whether this extends to wearing low-key religious symbols (such as necklaces, bracelets, beads, etc) in public is another matter entirely, but I suppose it all depends on the context.

I suppose the question needs to be asked: why do Christians feel the need to wear crosses in the first place? Is their own faith not enough, in that they feel the need to broadcast it to everyone? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians need to wear religious symbols. If anything, wearing a cross potentially falls under the sin of Pride...

Keep in mind that I'm not religious myself, but the bible does say that Christians need to be a light in the world. (Matthew 5:24-26) Specifically it says, "14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven." They may not be literal lights, but Christians tend to view their "Witness Wear" as the lights described in the bible. They can't talk to everyone about the good news, but they believe in it and want the world to know. And the bible clearly says to make sure everyone knows. The easiest way to do that: displaying Christian symbols.

[Xelsis]

A better question to be asked: Why the heck is that the government's business? Since when is it their job to critique someone's theology? Who gave them the power to rule on the spiritual benefits or detriments of cross-wearing?

Where, in my statement, did I say that I was asking my question from a government perspective? I asked the question because I have studied theology, NOT that I was advocating that any government look at it from that perspective. I think you misinterpreted what I was saying. I was merely offering another perspective on the matter that hasn't yet been given on this thread...

Fair enough.

[Zottistan]

In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?.

Freedom of religion =/= freedom to wear whatever you want (or lack of). Taking an extreme example, if my religion dictated that I had to be naked in public, all the time, I think other people would have issue with it. Freedom of religion is not a licence to wear (or not wear) whatever you please.

However, whether this extends to wearing low-key religious symbols (such as necklaces, bracelets, beads, etc) in public is another matter entirely, but I suppose it all depends on the context.

I suppose the question needs to be asked: why do Christians feel the need to wear crosses in the first place? Is their own faith not enough, in that they feel the need to broadcast it to everyone? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians need to wear religious symbols. If anything, wearing a cross potentially falls under the sin of Pride...

You'd think the last thing Jesus would want to see when he comes back is a cross.

[Uxupox]

No-one should be allowed to wear religious symbols in public.

Why? Herd mentality.

Nobody should be allowed to wear communist symbols.

Why? Herd mentality.

[Petrolheadia]

No-one should be allowed to wear religious symbols in public.

Why? Herd mentality.

Care to explain?

[Socialist Nordia]

Anyway, religious symbols are obnoxious. I wouldn't want to ban them, but I'm just saying, I'm quite prone to profile people in a negative way if they're wearing a crucifix.

[The Imperium Empires]

No-one should be allowed to wear religious symbols in public.

Why? Herd mentality.

Nobody should be allowed to wear communist symbols.

Why? Herd mentality.

That makes no sense at all?

[Uxupox]

Nobody should be allowed to wear communist symbols.

Why? Herd mentality.

That makes no sense at all?

Just answering his non-sense with more non-sense.

[Risottia]

Freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitutions of every Westernized nation in the world. I don't know if it also entails freedom of irreligion,

Does.

I've read some cases about Christians being disallowed from wearing any jewelry featuring a crucifix or any Christian symbol:

Publicly displaying jewelry isn't a mandated requirement of the Christian faith.

In my opinion, everyone is allowed to wear anything with religious symbols in public, so long as nobody is using said stuff to harm, but why is it that the act of merely wearing jewelry featuring a religious symbol is a violation of rules to some?

Because some places have stricter rules about wearing stuff. Quite often "this thing isn't allowed for safety reasons", "this other thing isn't for security reasons", and "this thing isn't allowed because we're not going to have sectarian strife on our premises".

[CoraSpia]

My friend often gets told to remove his hammer of thor symbol because people see it as 'intimidating.' Not sure how a tiny hammer on a necklace is intimidating, but it's a regular occurrence for him.