Trump MAGAThread IV: Twixt Scylla & Some Bad Hombres

[Lady Scylla]

Really should make up your mind.

I have. My views on my ideal state have more or less been rather consistent for quite awhile now.

Doesnt seem so. Looks more like youre interested on taking people on a while ride.

[Napkiraly]

I have. My views on my ideal state have more or less been rather consistent for quite awhile now.

Well, you view any actions that could possibly be against the state or a war as treason.
Is this a nation you yourself would want to live in, and where do you view yourself within it?

I am fine with dissent.

[Napkiraly]

I have. My views on my ideal state have more or less been rather consistent for quite awhile now.

Doesnt seem so. Looks more like youre interested on taking people on a while ride.

I have been called Mr. Bones.

[Gauthier]

By pulling out according to terms set and signed by Dubya. Obama should have said Fuck You to Iraq and kept the forces there apparently.

Looks like nobody has the term of

renewed negotiations.

Extremely useful to renegotiate when al'Maliki couldn't get U.S. forces out soon enough.

[Uxupox]

Looks like nobody has the term of

renewed negotiations.

Extremely useful to renegotiate when al'Maliki couldn't get U.S. forces out soon enough.

They you would know the answer as to why al'Maliki let a detachment of US soldiers stay permanently in Iraq.

[Valaran]

Doesn't change that W caused the shit storm that made IS.

No, but the point is basically irrelevant. It doesn't matter. Its like saying the root problem was that Saddam took power, or that he invaded Kuwait, or that the Ottoman Empire fell. It takes a further series of events after 2003 (and after 2009) for IS to become what it is today, and those are what matters.

The context that created it's power was that a power vacuum was in Iraq.

Actually no, IS was pretty beaten by 2011. It regained its strength by occupying parts of Syria.

Turns out killing that asshole So damn insane caused that power vacuum in the first place.

And a few other things, such as executive orders and policies in the aftermath.

[Gauthier]

Extremely useful to renegotiate when al'Maliki couldn't get U.S. forces out soon enough.

They you would know the answer as to why al'Maliki let a detachment of US soldiers stay permanently in Iraq.

A detachment. More than sufficient to quash sectarian violence and abuse courtesy of al'Maliki that stoked enough Sunni resentment to simply not get in the way of Daesh and hand them free prizes.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

If Dubya didn't stick the US in a war with Iraq,ISIS would not exist.

Still happening unless you can stop the Arab springs.

If a revolution happened, power vacuum would be filled.

The way it happened, vacuum was overtaken by ISIS, cue grim dark realty.

[Uxupox]

They you would know the answer as to why al'Maliki let a detachment of US soldiers stay permanently in Iraq.

A detachment. More than sufficient to quash sectarian violence and abuse courtesy of al'Maliki that stoked enough Sunni resentment to simply not get in the way of Daesh and hand them free prizes.

You do actually realize that the detachment is part of the sustainment and reconstruction program right and not combat oriented right?

[Uxupox]

Still happening unless you can stop the Arab springs.

If a revolution happened, power vacuum would be filled.

The way it happened, vacuum was overtaken by ISIS, cue grim dark realty.

Morel like nobody in both Iraq and the US Administration gave a damn about the al-Anbar region.

[Gauthier]

A detachment. More than sufficient to quash sectarian violence and abuse courtesy of al'Maliki that stoked enough Sunni resentment to simply not get in the way of Daesh and hand them free prizes.

You do actually realize that the detachment is part of the sustainment and reconstruction program right and not combat oriented right?

[Uxupox]

You do actually realize that the detachment is part of the sustainment and reconstruction program right and not combat oriented right?

Then Obama should not have joked around with troop deployment as advised by Ret. General Keane.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yes, prison sentences for those that disagree with or speak out against the regime is a classical hallmark of fascism.

Not defending fascism but communism also has this distinction.

Not defending fascism or communism, but most authoritarian regimes, no matter their political leanings, have this distinction.

Repression of speech is not a fascist or communist thing only, it's an authoritarian thing.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

If a revolution happened, power vacuum would be filled.

The way it happened, vacuum was overtaken by ISIS, cue grim dark realty.

Morel like nobody in both Iraq and the US Administration gave a damn about the al-Anbar region.

Or, if they didn't invade in the first place ISIS would have never happened.

Also, hundreds of troops would be alive.

[Uxupox]

Morel like nobody in both Iraq and the US Administration gave a damn about the al-Anbar region.

Or, if they didn't invade in the first place ISIS would have never happened.

Also, hundreds of troops would be alive.

Like I said before you will need to stop the Arab spring from happening in the first place since ISIS directly benefited from that event.

[Novoserbistan]

Can all of you please take a look at the picture below. It may seem off-topic, but it is greatly related to US politics in general. To me, it's pretty BS. Apparently, "9/11 was an inside job" is the most believable conspiracy theory, even more plausible than that the elections are rigged, and furthermore the idea that President Bush killed 3000 innocent people is apparently several times more believable than the theory that Clintons caused the deaths of some of their enemies. What is your opinion?

[Cattle Mutilators]

So yay another Close ally he's alienating.

Trump doesn't need allies. He has Putin. ♫♥♥♥♫

Damn it Trump, you're tearing apart our alliance system. You can't do that.

Of course he can. That's why he was elected by Russia.

[Farnhamia]

Can all of you please take a look at the picture below. It may seem off-topic, but it is greatly related to US politics in general. To me, it's pretty BS. Apparently, "9/11 was an inside job" is the most believable conspiracy theory, even more plausible than that the elections are rigged, and furthermore the idea that President Bush killed 3000 innocent people is apparently several times more believable than the theory that Clintons caused the deaths of some of their enemies. What is your opinion?

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My opinion? It's off topic.

[Fartsniffage]

Can all of you please take a look at the picture below. It may seem off-topic, but it is greatly related to US politics in general. To me, it's pretty BS. Apparently, "9/11 was an inside job" is the most believable conspiracy theory, even more plausible than that the elections are rigged, and furthermore the idea that President Bush killed 3000 innocent people is apparently several times more believable than the theory that Clintons caused the deaths of some of their enemies. What is your opinion?

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You really think the Clintons have been having people knocked-off?

[Blakk Metal]

Can all of you please take a look at the picture below. It may seem off-topic, but it is greatly related to US politics in general. To me, it's pretty BS. Apparently, "9/11 was an inside job" is the most believable conspiracy theory, even more plausible than that the elections are rigged, and furthermore the idea that President Bush killed 3000 innocent people is apparently several times more believable than the theory that Clintons caused the deaths of some of their enemies. What is your opinion?

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The position of the words on that aren't determined by plausibility, they're determined by commonality.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Or, if they didn't invade in the first place ISIS would have never happened.

Also, hundreds of troops would be alive.

Like I said before you will need to stop the Arab spring from happening in the first place since ISIS directly benefited from that event.

And again, a revolution would be the best thing.

Shit hole scumbag out of power +
US coalition troops alive +
ISIS doesn't get the vacuum it needs to exist +

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Can all of you please take a look at the picture below. It may seem off-topic, but it is greatly related to US politics in general. To me, it's pretty BS. Apparently, "9/11 was an inside job" is the most believable conspiracy theory, even more plausible than that the elections are rigged, and furthermore the idea that President Bush killed 3000 innocent people is apparently several times more believable than the theory that Clintons caused the deaths of some of their enemies. What is your opinion?

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despair code?

Wha

[Lady Scylla]

Can all of you please take a look at the picture below. It may seem off-topic, but it is greatly related to US politics in general. To me, it's pretty BS. Apparently, "9/11 was an inside job" is the most believable conspiracy theory, even more plausible than that the elections are rigged, and furthermore the idea that President Bush killed 3000 innocent people is apparently several times more believable than the theory that Clintons caused the deaths of some of their enemies. What is your opinion?

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My opinion? It's off topic.

But Farn, that's just a fascist-commie conspiracy to keep you from knowing the truth!

[Uxupox]

Like I said before you will need to stop the Arab spring from happening in the first place since ISIS directly benefited from that event.

And again, a revolution would be the best thing.

Shit hole scumbag out of power +
US coalition troops alive +
ISIS doesn't get the vacuum it needs to exist +

Completely doubtful.

[Lady Scylla]

First 5 Executive Order comparison between Obama and Trump