How do we restore democracy to the United States?

[Thermodolia]

California is socialist?

Might as fucking well be.

Ive drawn up plans and shit on how Bom-er i mean, convince them to turn back to the union.

I'm going to need more than just your opinion. Otherwise California is still capitalist as fuck

[Herargon]

Democracy on a scale of three hundred million people is inherently unsustainable. Rewriting the constitution to decentralize is the only way.

India says hi.

[Genivaria]

Might as fucking well be.

Ive drawn up plans and shit on how Bom-er i mean, convince them to turn back to the union.

I'm going to need more than just your opinion. Otherwise California is still capitalist as fuck

This is the same state that elected Arnold, the guy who voted Reagan.

[Herargon]

Socialism.
Politicians being under the control of corporations, or literally being themselves billionaire business magnates, is what created the problem.

You are gonna see a few million dead before that shit gets track here.

Socialism does not mean communism. It is an entirely different branch of the left.

[Thermodolia]

Democracy on a scale of three hundred million people is inherently unsustainable. Rewriting the constitution to decentralize is the only way.

India says hi.

Dio is an absolute monarchist

[Genivaria]

You are gonna see a few million dead before that shit gets track here.

Socialism does not mean communism. It is an entirely different branch of the left.

I'd settle for Social Democracy myself.

[Thermodolia]

I'm going to need more than just your opinion. Otherwise California is still capitalist as fuck

This is the same state that elected Arnold, the guy who voted Reagan.

And the same state that has a fuck ton of tech and porn companies

[Herargon]

India says hi.

Dio is an absolute monarchist

Oh. That gives me some new information.

Nonetheless, I just wanted to point out how his first sentence and argument in one is quite weak because of a counter-example existing.

[Herargon]

Socialism does not mean communism. It is an entirely different branch of the left.

I'd settle for Social Democracy myself.

tbh I'm inclined to agree, I'd settle for that as well. Don't know what I exactly would be though; I feel as being in between a greenie, social liberal, social democrat, a christian democrat, or a pirate party-like person. Something in between those three.

[Grand Britannia]

Democracy on a scale of three hundred million people is inherently unsustainable. Rewriting the constitution to decentralize is the only way.

India says hi.

India, the pinnacle of prosperity.

[Thermodolia]

India says hi.

India, the pinnacle of prosperity.

Pinnacle or not it definitely shows that democracy for a large amount of people is not unstable

[Diopolis]

Democracy on a scale of three hundred million people is inherently unsustainable. Rewriting the constitution to decentralize is the only way.

India says hi.

India's not the greatest example to use.

[Thermodolia]

India says hi.

India's not the greatest example to use.

But it does have a working democracy of over 300 million people. If India can do it with about a billion people than so can the USA

[Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire]

India says hi.

India's not the greatest example to use.

They've had communist rebellions, anti-Muslim pogroms and emergency governments but seem to be stabilizing out lately. Might not be good but it's getting better.

[Herargon]

India says hi.

India's not the greatest example to use.

That a land is poor or has a different culture does not say a democracy with a large population doesn't work. We're talking in-content here.

[Diopolis]

India's not the greatest example to use.

That a land is poor or has a different culture does not say a democracy with a large population doesn't work. We're talking in-content here.

I don't see how they're any more democratic than the US is. A bit less so, given their higher corruption levels, I would guess.

[Collatis]

California is socialist?

Only if one has absolutely no idea what socialism is.

I'd settle for Social Democracy myself.

Amen.

[Holy Jakelandion Empire]

DO NOT DISMANTLE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. The electoral college gives power to the states with lower populations, hence why the Primary vote is held in Iowa. If it was repealed, it would be held in the state with the most population, so CA. Rural areas would be abandoned by politicians, as they would only heed the needs of urban areas.

Bring back voter ID and stricter voting laws, to prevent mishaps from voting, like illegal immigrants voting even if they aren't citizens, which is probably why Hillary won the popular vote.

Our Founding Fathers knew that without proper representation, the politicians would abandon the rural populations and mooch up the filthy urban dwellers.

[Roma Uc]

Impeachment.

Whit a vacancy governement, in this phase, you would have a de facto Parliament and Supreme Court ruling, giving away federal goverement administration and Penthagon.

Beeing these lats two in executive charge, you would have a feebling of constituencies who have swamped the. you cut off the hydra.

[The Alexanderians]

Obviously we need a 100 ft tall atomic football throwing robot to exterminate the red menace.

[Thermodolia]

Impeachment.

Whit a vacancy governement, in this phase, you would have a de facto Parliament and Supreme Court ruling, giving away federal goverement administration and Penthagon.

Beeing these lats two in executive charge, you would have a feebling of constituencies who have swamped the. you cut off the hydra.

Um what?!

Anyways a parliamentary republic is not the way to go. A semi-presidential system like France is the best way to go.

[Roma Uc]

DO NOT DISMANTLE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

I subscribe. thist is a pearl of your constitutional legislation, in some other countries we strive in the effort to gain this sacred principle.

furtherly it is clearly made and well situited for the federal republic or yours.

[Liriena]

DO NOT DISMANTLE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. The electoral college gives power to the states with lower populations, hence why the Primary vote is held in Iowa. If it was repealed, it would be held in the state with the most population, so CA. Rural areas would be abandoned by politicians, as they would only heed the needs of urban areas.

Bring back voter ID and stricter voting laws, to prevent mishaps from voting, like illegal immigrants voting even if they aren't citizens, which is probably why Hillary won the popular vote.

Our Founding Fathers knew that without proper representation, the politicians would abandon the rural populations and mooch up the filthy urban dwellers.

The electoral college is an anachronism, and it undermines the most basic principle of democracy (that every person's vote is equal in worth). Also, voter ID laws as they exist today are little more than poll taxes that purposefully depress turnout among Democratic-leaning demographics, and no, Hillary Clinton did not win the popular vote because of undocumented immigrants voting. This is a far right lie, and a stupid one at that.

Also... "filthy urban dwellers"? That's you insulting many of your fellow posters.

[Thermodolia]

1) DO NOT DISMANTLE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. The electoral college gives power to the states with lower populations, hence why the Primary vote is held in Iowa. If it was repealed, it would be held in the state with the most population, so CA. Rural areas would be abandoned by politicians, as they would only heed the needs of urban areas.

2) Bring back voter ID and stricter voting laws, to prevent mishaps from voting, like illegal immigrants voting even if they aren't citizens, which is probably why Hillary won the popular vote.

3) Our Founding Fathers knew that without proper representation, the politicians would abandon the rural populations and mooch up the filthy urban dwellers.

1) Um no. 1. A) The primary votes have nothing to do with the electoral college. The party primaries are run by the parties and not the government. Also those are state by state and who goes first has no real legal authority except for bragging rights.
1. B) No that wouldn't happen and that's not why the EC was created. The EC was created because it took forever for people to get places in a pre-internet era. Currently you only need the 11 most populous states to win the EC. So currently someone could ignore all the small states and just go for the big ones. Also only 20% of the nation lives in a urban center, though that number goes up to 46% when you include metropolitan areas. So basically you still couldn't win if you shafted the rural population areas.

2) No more people voted for Clinton because they liked her more than Trump, not because of the idiotic idea of illegal immigrants voting.

3) My head is hurting from the faceplams. You can't just rule the US from the urban areas alone.

[Neutraligon]

I think the first thing we have to do is to change who is allowed to determine voting districts. I think that an independent board should decide these districts. This independent board would be made up of equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats (though not limited to these people).

I think the federal government should give away IDs to anyone citizen who has reached voting age. The US already keeps track of any male who reaches 18 for selective service. This ID would be free.