BongBongLand (Philippine) Discussion Thread

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

As a U.S. colony, the Philippines is a Latin American country in Asia, and as such will have more similarities in political form to current Latin American countries than other countries in Asia.

I come back to the forums and this is one of the first posts to grace my sight. Maybe I shouldn't have come back smh my head

[Europa Undivided]

As a U.S. colony, the Philippines is a Latin American country in Asia, and as such will have more similarities in political form to current Latin American countries than other countries in Asia.

I come back to the forums and this is one of the first posts to grace my sight. Maybe I shouldn't have come back smh my head

They steal our islands AND get our identity wrong.

[PhilTech]

Thing is, because of the majority votes, does that mean talking about that period of Philippine politics from the 1970's to the 1980's is now taboo and discredited? I have a feeling too that the "majority wins" argument would be invoked in discussions.

I don't think so...yet, unless the Marcoses will do some historical revisionism here and there which I hope not. I want them to prove us wrong.

What are you talking about? Absolutely nothing happened there. Just like how nothing happened at Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Are you being sarcastic or what my dude?

[Pasong Tirad]

As a U.S. colony, the Philippines is a Latin American country in Asia, and as such will have more similarities in political form to current Latin American countries than other countries in Asia.

I come back to the forums and this is one of the first posts to grace my sight. Maybe I shouldn't have come back smh my head

You were already free.

[Europa Undivided]

Thing is, because of the majority votes, does that mean talking about that period of Philippine politics from the 1970's to the 1980's is now taboo and discredited? I have a feeling too that the "majority wins" argument would be invoked in discussions.

I don't think so...yet, unless the Marcoses will do some historical revisionism here and there which I hope not. I want them to prove us wrong.

Are you being sarcastic or what my dude?

I am always sarcastic.

[PhilTech]

I don't think so...yet, unless the Marcoses will do some historical revisionism here and there which I hope not. I want them to prove us wrong.


Are you being sarcastic or what my dude?

I am always sarcastic.

Good to know.

[New Visayan Islands]

June 12th, 1898, from Madrid.
July 4th, 1946, from Washington.

[Pasong Tirad]

Might have missed it, but, if I'm interpreting this correctly, divorces involving Filipinos in foreign courts may now be recognized in the country.

[Diuhon]

it begins

united in a new society of grift and grind, here we come!

[PhilTech]

it begins

united in a new society of grift and grind, here we come!

“simplicity, economy, and efficiency”

Shit, what does this mean?

Attempt to reduce red tape? Attempt to abuse power? Or both?

[Sulsan]

panay yes

[Terminus Station]

can you guys tell me about this bongbong guy? So far the sentiments I get are that he's unliked and Id like to know why.

[New Visayan Islands]

can you guys tell me about this bongbong guy? So far the sentiments I get are that he's unliked and Id like to know why.

Bongbong, properly known as Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos, Junior, is the son of the notorious dictator and kleptocrat Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Senior. The egregious degree of Marcos Senior’s falsities, ranging from his war record to his presidency—a presidency that spanned 2 decades and was best known as a Conjugal Dictatorship, where dissent could and would cost people their lives or those of their loved ones—was such that when he was 86’d in 1986, his name became a byword for autocracy, mismanagement, and corruption.

[Kubra]

rappler's dead and so are a number of other publications, the older periodicals are cowed, and the manila times is singing hosannas to the second coming of the new society of dunces

moving on

Say what you will, I love reading manila times. it scratches the colonial itch of looking down on the indios for their poor grasp of the english language.

[Terminus Station]

can you guys tell me about this bongbong guy? So far the sentiments I get are that he's unliked and Id like to know why.

Bongbong, properly known as Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos, Junior, is the son of the notorious dictator and kleptocrat Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Senior. The egregious degree of Marcos Senior’s falsities, ranging from his war record to his presidency—a presidency that spanned 2 decades and was best known as a Conjugal Dictatorship, where dissent could and would cost people their lives or those of their loved ones—was such that when he was 86’d in 1986, his name became a byword for autocracy, mismanagement, and corruption.

is that all? Nobody likes him because his dad was a dictator? I know it seems pretty bad but what are his actual policies? Or are they the same as his dad's?

[Europa Undivided]

Bongbong, properly known as Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos, Junior, is the son of the notorious dictator and kleptocrat Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Senior. The egregious degree of Marcos Senior’s falsities, ranging from his war record to his presidency—a presidency that spanned 2 decades and was best known as a Conjugal Dictatorship, where dissent could and would cost people their lives or those of their loved ones—was such that when he was 86’d in 1986, his name became a byword for autocracy, mismanagement, and corruption.

is that all? Nobody likes him because his dad was a dictator? I know it seems pretty bad but what are his actual policies? Or are they the same as his dad's?

He literally has no policies other than saying 'unity' ad nauseam. He also just denied that the inflation rate is as high as if is, stating that "I don't believe we're that high."

In addition to that, Bong Bong has NEVER expressed remorse for what his family did (and to be fair, he was complicit in it as well), and instead dodges the topic every single time.

[Pasong Tirad]

Bongbong, properly known as Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos, Junior, is the son of the notorious dictator and kleptocrat Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Senior. The egregious degree of Marcos Senior’s falsities, ranging from his war record to his presidency—a presidency that spanned 2 decades and was best known as a Conjugal Dictatorship, where dissent could and would cost people their lives or those of their loved ones—was such that when he was 86’d in 1986, his name became a byword for autocracy, mismanagement, and corruption.

is that all? Nobody likes him because his dad was a dictator? I know it seems pretty bad but what are his actual policies? Or are they the same as his dad's?

His policies are the continuation of the neoliberal order established following the ousting of his father, which will do nothing to slow the collapse of Philippine society through the widening of the wealth gap, the continued accumulation of wealth by the ultra rich, the continued spread of rampant corruption through basically every part of the government, the continued deterioration of public infrastructure or its privatization for the profit of the aforementioned ultra rich, the continuation of the so-called wars against drugs (poor people) and communists (literally any government critic), etc. etc. etc. His economic team is literally filled with Aquino appointees. He's not here to rock the boat, but he isn't going to plug any of its holes.

[Connori Pilgrims]

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is that all? Nobody likes him because his dad was a dictator? I know it seems pretty bad but what are his actual policies? Or are they the same as his dad's?

His policies are the continuation of the neoliberal order established following the ousting of his father, which will do nothing to slow the collapse of Philippine society through the widening of the wealth gap, the continued accumulation of wealth by the ultra rich, the continued spread of rampant corruption through basically every part of the government, the continued deterioration of public infrastructure or its privatization for the profit of the aforementioned ultra rich, the continuation of the so-called wars against drugs (poor people) and communists (literally any government critic), etc. etc. etc. His economic team is literally filled with Aquino appointees. He's not here to rock the boat, but he isn't going to plug any of its holes.

Don't forget the acceleration of education decline. Don't get me wrong, this was a problem arguably set in place even before EDSA I and was not addressed by K-to-12 (since K-to-12 just canalized education towards services and medium-low-skill trades), but Junior's exploitation of social media and the pushing of "alternative media" and influencers as legitimate replacements (they aren't "just" alternatives) for factual history and mainstream (even if faulty) media is only going to make Filipinos dumber, more gullible, and overall un-usable as anything other than domestic help, prostitutes, and "entertainment".

Excellent people like those guys from UP Diliman who are developing satellites or other achievers will be so in spite of Philippine Education, not because of it. And sadly, it does not seem that Junior will do anything to really mend it.

[Kubra]

Bongbong, properly known as Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos, Junior, is the son of the notorious dictator and kleptocrat Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Senior. The egregious degree of Marcos Senior’s falsities, ranging from his war record to his presidency—a presidency that spanned 2 decades and was best known as a Conjugal Dictatorship, where dissent could and would cost people their lives or those of their loved ones—was such that when he was 86’d in 1986, his name became a byword for autocracy, mismanagement, and corruption.

is that all? Nobody likes him because his dad was a dictator? I know it seems pretty bad but what are his actual policies? Or are they the same as his dad's?

an important thing to note is he wasn't a child when his dad was ousted from office, he was an adult who participated and benefited from the periods widespread graft. So when he looks back on those times as the good ol' days, it ain't a good look.
As for policy, his campaign was notorious for being very light on it, whereas other candidates at least pretend they care about having a platform. By the way he campaign, his implicit platform is a return to said good ol' days, with no elaboration of how or whether or not that's even a good thing.

[Diuhon]

so

um

yeah

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so did any of you know around 18 thousand credit suisse bank accounts from more than 30 thousand customers were leaked around last year, with the contents of the leak published earlier this year?

among those leaked were those of bongbong's parents and a lawyer and her husband who created accounts to launder the conjugals' stolen wealth with

nary a peep in the local press aside from rappler, good god

[Europa Undivided]

so

um

yeah

uh

so did any of you know around 18 thousand credit suisse bank accounts from more than 30 thousand customers were leaked around last year, with the contents of the leak published earlier this year?

among those leaked were those of bongbong's parents and a lawyer and her husband who created accounts to launder the conjugals' stolen wealth with

nary a peep in the local press aside from rappler, good god

"Fake news Yan ng mga dilawan" - the trolls, probably

[Diuhon]

so

um

yeah

uh

so did any of you know around 18 thousand credit suisse bank accounts from more than 30 thousand customers were leaked around last year, with the contents of the leak published earlier this year?

among those leaked were those of bongbong's parents and a lawyer and her husband who created accounts to launder the conjugals' stolen wealth with

nary a peep in the local press aside from rappler, good god

"Fake news Yan ng mga dilawan" - the trolls, probably

given how little coverage was given immediately and months after the release of the leak (all i've found is a single -- one -- article in the philippine star discussing the fallout, but did not mention the marcoses at all), you'd certainly think that's the case

[Terminus Station]

is that all? Nobody likes him because his dad was a dictator? I know it seems pretty bad but what are his actual policies? Or are they the same as his dad's?

His policies are the continuation of the neoliberal order established following the ousting of his father, which will do nothing to slow the collapse of Philippine society through the widening of the wealth gap, the continued accumulation of wealth by the ultra rich, the continued spread of rampant corruption through basically every part of the government, the continued deterioration of public infrastructure or its privatization for the profit of the aforementioned ultra rich, the continuation of the so-called wars against drugs (poor people) and communists (literally any government critic), etc. etc. etc. His economic team is literally filled with Aquino appointees. He's not here to rock the boat, but he isn't going to plug any of its holes.

so hes just here to tickle people ears and line his own pockets. Got it.

[Pevaritu]

rappler's dead and so are a number of other publications, the older periodicals are cowed, and the manila times is singing hosannas to the second coming of the new society of dunces

moving on

Say what you will, I love reading manila times. it scratches the colonial itch of looking down on the indios for their poor grasp of the english language.

What are your thoughts on the other English broadsheets?

As I mentioned previously, I'm more of a Philippine Star and Phil. Daily Inquirer reader. Occasional reader. I also like to check out the Phil. Star's editor-in-chief's MWF column.

Copies of the Manila Times seem to be found more easily in convenience stores in Manila (e.g. in Intramuros) than those in other cities I've been to.

Low-key I wish that a Filipino-language or a bilingual English-Filipino broadsheet would be published. That would certainly help refine one's vocabulary from both languages.

[Diuhon]

to my knowledge, a broadsheet once tried to taglish its way to peoples' pockets

tried

can't even recall the year it got its newsprint out, but it didn't last more than a few print runs