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What party do you support?

Independence Party
16
16%
Progressive Party
1
1%
Viðreisn
5
5%
Bright Future
6
6%
Pirate Party
41
42%
Social Democratic Alliance
13
13%
Left-Greens
12
12%
Other
4
4%
 
Total votes : 98

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:25 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:Tried doing some digging to find platforms for some of the parties, but it seems like there's little in English. A shame.


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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:38 pm

http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/10/18/regeneration_rules_out_coalition_with_government_pa/

Viðreisn rules out a coalition with the government parties as well. Now this is interesting. Polling was looking like Viðreisn might be able to keep the right wing in government, if they so desired, but with this, unless something drastic happens, it looks like the Progressive and Independence parties will be sitting in the opposition benches in a few weeks.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:38 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Tried doing some digging to find platforms for some of the parties, but it seems like there's little in English. A shame.


eg vitandi hafði lært islenska*

(I don't know the accusative form of Icelandic, so sue me)

I don't know Icelandic at all, so no problem.

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Postby Stellonia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:47 pm

Will the leak of the Panama Papers have a profound effect on this election?

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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:50 pm

Stellonia wrote:Will the leak of the Panama Papers have a profound effect on this election?

I mean it already has, in that it's caused them to be a few months early. Other than that, yes, it's hurt the Progressives quite a lot (the main guy implicated was a member of this party), but the Pirates aren't currently riding as high now as they were a few months ago.

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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:57 pm

Independence Party—Run of the mill Liberal Conservative eurosceptics, the Independence Party is the primary right wing force in the country, and are part of the current government. They are slated to come in first or second place, but have been hit by some troubles recently. They've lost some support to the new party Viðreisn due to their refusal to hold an EU referendum. In the past couple of weeks, there's also been backlash from female figures within the party over problems with gender equality in the party primaries. Despite this, they will most likely remain a powerful political force and may form the next government.

Independence is my choice.

I have a query, though. In regards to the bolded text that is.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:58 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Stellonia wrote:Will the leak of the Panama Papers have a profound effect on this election?

I mean it already has, in that it's caused them to be a few months early. Other than that, yes, it's hurt the Progressives quite a lot (the main guy implicated was a member of this party), but the Pirates aren't currently riding as high now as they were a few months ago.

Not just a member, he was the prime minister.

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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:38 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I mean it already has, in that it's caused them to be a few months early. Other than that, yes, it's hurt the Progressives quite a lot (the main guy implicated was a member of this party), but the Pirates aren't currently riding as high now as they were a few months ago.

Not just a member, he was the prime minister.

Yes, I probably should have made that clearer than saying "main guy". :p

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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:38 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Independence Party—Run of the mill Liberal Conservative eurosceptics, the Independence Party is the primary right wing force in the country, and are part of the current government. They are slated to come in first or second place, but have been hit by some troubles recently. They've lost some support to the new party Viðreisn due to their refusal to hold an EU referendum. In the past couple of weeks, there's also been backlash from female figures within the party over problems with gender equality in the party primaries. Despite this, they will most likely remain a powerful political force and may form the next government.

Independence is my choice.

I have a query, though. In regards to the bolded text that is.

Ask away.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:40 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
eg vitandi hafði lært islenska*

(I don't know the accusative form of Icelandic, so sue me)

I don't know Icelandic at all, so no problem.


It's actually very similar to German, particularly grammatically. The Icelandic language is fairly unique as it is relatively conservative and uses the archaic Old Norse orthography.

Anyway, back to elections. The Pirate phenomena seems to be strong in the Nordic countries, particularly Iceland which has an extremely high number of internet users relative to its population.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:44 pm

I sure do hope that the Pirate Party will actually get the chance to form a government, at least in coalition with other left-of-center parties. I like some of their ideas, and I'm intrigued by what they could do in a country like Iceland.

Plus, the ruling coalition deserves to lose to them after the Panama Papers.
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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:17 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Independence is my choice.

I have a query, though. In regards to the bolded text that is.

Ask away.

What were the problems with gender equality? I don't wish for this to become a massive threadjack, I'm just curious.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:31 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Ask away.

What were the problems with gender equality? I don't wish for this to become a massive threadjack, I'm just curious.

Basically, in the primaries, experienced female candidates were pushed down the list, making it all men on the top of the list, which makes it likely that not to many women will be elected for the Independence party.

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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:39 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:What were the problems with gender equality? I don't wish for this to become a massive threadjack, I'm just curious.

Basically, in the primaries, experienced female candidates were pushed down the list, making it all men on the top of the list, which makes it likely that not to many women will be elected for the Independence party.

Oh dear. I hope this is dealt with.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:50 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:What were the problems with gender equality? I don't wish for this to become a massive threadjack, I'm just curious.

Basically, in the primaries, experienced female candidates were pushed down the list, making it all men on the top of the list, which makes it likely that not to many women will be elected for the Independence party.

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:18 am

Liriena wrote:I sure do hope that the Pirate Party will actually get the chance to form a government, at least in coalition with other left-of-center parties. I like some of their ideas, and I'm intrigued by what they could do in a country like Iceland.

Plus, the ruling coalition deserves to lose to them after the Panama Papers.

The only person responsible for that is Sigmundur Gunnlaugson because nobody knew about his offshore holdings. It is the reason why I didn't pick the Progressive Party in the poll, however.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:12 pm

4 days out and all the articles I'm seeing on the election are saying something along the lines of "Pirates on route to win election" based off of the most recent single poll. We'll see if these predictions hold true I guess.

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Postby Broviet Brussia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:18 pm

I am curious to see what the pirates would do once elected and if they'd be any better than the other choices. This is the first time pirates are this close to leading a country, let alone getting in parliament in the first place. Ideologically I prefer the Left-Greens though.

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Postby Braecland » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:33 pm

Well if I was Icelandic, I'd certainly vote for the Independence Party. Coalition parliaments are interesting, there's certainly many to chose from.

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Postby Herargon » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:14 pm

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I myself would, if the fishing policy problem will be solved and if the Icelandic people stopped their whaling.


Considering Iceland is a fairly big exporter of whale meat, this I find implausible.

Iceland has a fantastic fishing policy that works


Weeeell, but whales are a threatened species.... so how would it 'work'? Is that even justified? They could have used other sources of fish meat..
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Postby Chessmistress » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:31 pm

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Postby The Westenian Union » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:35 pm

I've actually just started my Icelandic election predictions lol. From what little I know, I don't really have a problem with the Independence Party or the Progressive Party. I do find it fascinating that the Pirate Party has risen in popularity to much. It will be very interesting.
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Postby Broviet Brussia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:49 pm

Chessmistress wrote:Social Democratic Alliance.
The Left-Green is too focused about more trivial issues and also full of funfems.

What are those?

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Broviet Brussia wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:Social Democratic Alliance.
The Left-Green is too focused about more trivial issues and also full of funfems.

What are those?

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Postby Broviet Brussia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:40 pm

Radikala Skold wrote:
Broviet Brussia wrote:What are those?

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-s ... n-feminist

So liberal feminists?

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