Fascism Discussion Thread

[Redsection]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

The same could be said about anarchy or communism as they are considered extreme leftist ideas , what is your point ?

[Heidisteinian Fempire]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

The same could be said about anarchy or communism as they are considered extreme leftist ideas , what is your point ?

I'm not a communist, and Anarchy isn't inherently leftist.

[Bakery Hill]

The same could be said about anarchy or communism as they are considered extreme leftist ideas , what is your point ?

I'm not a communist, and Anarchy isn't inherently leftist.

AnCaps aren't anarchist though.

[Heidisteinian Fempire]

I'm not a communist, and Anarchy isn't inherently leftist.

AnCaps aren't anarchist though.

I mean, a Anarchist can be racist and homophobic. There are no rules, after all.

[Bakery Hill]

AnCaps aren't anarchist though.

I mean, a Anarchist can be racist and homophobic. There are no rules, after all.

Many wouldn't call that person an anarchist though. As racism and homophobia go against what some consider the core tents of anarchism.

[Miraaki]

Fascism is like Communism. Awesome in theory, brutal totalitarian dictatorships with no regard for basic human rights in practice. But still, awesome in theory

[Heidisteinian Fempire]

I mean, a Anarchist can be racist and homophobic. There are no rules, after all.

Many wouldn't call that person an anarchist though. As racism and homophobia go against what some consider the core tents of anarchism.

LaVeyan Satanism is considered Anarchist, but most members have right wing opinions

[Bakery Hill]

Many wouldn't call that person an anarchist though. As racism and homophobia go against what some consider the core tents of anarchism.

LaVeyan Satanism is considered Anarchist, but most members have right wing opinions

I'd like to open that up to other anarchists and see what they reckon. Satanism in general seems like a bit of a wank to me though.

[Heidisteinian Fempire]

LaVeyan Satanism is considered Anarchist, but most members have right wing opinions

I'd like to open that up to other anarchists and see what they reckon. Satanism in general seems like a bit of a wank to me though.

Let me clarify, I don't like racism or homophobia, regardless of what it's attached to.

[Dushan]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

Depends where you start.

[Lynopia]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

I cringe at classical conservatives thinking fascism is cringe!

[Hesse Darmstadt]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

The Left Wing in general is cringe.

[Community Values]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

The Left Wing in general is cringe.

Everything is cringe, then?

[Nordengrund]

I used to sympathize with fascism, but I'm now more on the libertarian side.

My main qualm about fascism is the statolatry and nationalism, which I felt I couldn't agree with as a Christian since I feel only God deserves such reverence and the ideology seems to put the state before everything, even God. It seems fascist states used Christianity for the purpose of unifying the people rather than being that they leaders were devout or thought other religions/denominations were wrong. So support for a Christian state seems more for convenience than actual conviction. Of course, not all fascist states are "religious".

Fascism also seemed trivial to me on some things. I get the dietary regulations and gun control do make sense in the philosophical context of fascism, but I (if I were a dictator) wouldn't really care what my people ate or spent their time doing as long as it didn't hurt their fellow citizens and were loyal to me. I wouldn't care if they spoke a non-native tongue or flew another nation's flag as long as the people who participated in those thug s did not oppose me or seek to overthrow me. Yeah, my nation would has been a IRL version of the Father Knows Best state.

I am a strong opponent of gun control as I felt such a state is very susceptible to oppression and greed and the citizens needed some way of removing the Hitlers of their nation from power and to stand up against atrocities.

I was never a true fascist, and I no longer sympathize with the ideology, though I wouldn't necessarily call myself an anti-fascist, either.

[Ganonsyoni]

I'd like to open that up to other anarchists and see what they reckon. Satanism in general seems like a bit of a wank to me though.

Let me clarify, I don't like racism or homophobia, regardless of what it's attached to.

There is a phenomena called "manarchism" which pops up often in the anarchist left usually when it comes to social issues like racism and sexism. Actual anarchists view racism and sexism as oppressive hierarchies that must be destroyed to have an equal world. Anarchists that go "no war but the class war", don't care about social issues besides class, or uses oppressive speech without care severely miss the point of destroying all oppressive structures and not just ones that oppress them. Fighting and ending sexism is just as important as fighting and ending capitalism and anarchists need to be intersectional and do both. Anarchists regularly call out these manarchists of not actually being anarchists unless they fight for everyone and not just their own immediate oppression.

[Aelex]

There is a phenomena called "manarchism" which pops up often in the anarchist left usually when it comes to social issues like racism and sexism. Actual anarchists view racism and sexism as oppressive hierarchies that must be destroyed to have an equal world. Anarchists that go "no war but the class war", don't care about social issues besides class, or uses oppressive speech without care severely miss the point of destroying all oppressive structures and not just ones that oppress them. Fighting and ending sexism is just as important as fighting and ending capitalism and anarchists need to be intersectional and do both. Anarchists regularly call out these manarchists of not actually being anarchists unless they fight for everyone and not just their own immediate oppression.

And that's how, kids, an already completely politically irrelevant "philosophy" managed the feat of making itself become even less relevant. Take notes as this will be on the test next week.

[Hesse Darmstadt]

The Left Wing in general is cringe.

Everything is cringe, then?

I didn't say that but of course you would assume that.

[Bakery Hill]

Let me clarify, I don't like racism or homophobia, regardless of what it's attached to.

There is a phenomena called "manarchism" which pops up often in the anarchist left usually when it comes to social issues like racism and sexism. Actual anarchists view racism and sexism as oppressive hierarchies that must be destroyed to have an equal world. Anarchists that go "no war but the class war", don't care about social issues besides class, or uses oppressive speech without care severely miss the point of destroying all oppressive structures and not just ones that oppress them. Fighting and ending sexism is just as important as fighting and ending capitalism and anarchists need to be intersectional and do both. Anarchists regularly call out these manarchists of not actually being anarchists unless they fight for everyone and not just their own immediate oppression.

Broadly agree, but "no war but the class war" isn't an inherently bad phrase. I've always seen it used against actual imperialist wars, not to silence criticism of oppressive power structures.

[PaNTuXIa]

Let me clarify, I don't like racism or homophobia, regardless of what it's attached to.

There is a phenomena called "manarchism" which pops up often in the anarchist left usually when it comes to social issues like racism and sexism. Actual anarchists view racism and sexism as oppressive hierarchies that must be destroyed to have an equal world. Anarchists that go "no war but the class war", don't care about social issues besides class, or uses oppressive speech without care severely miss the point of destroying all oppressive structures and not just ones that oppress them. Fighting and ending sexism is just as important as fighting and ending capitalism and anarchists need to be intersectional and do both. Anarchists regularly call out these manarchists of not actually being anarchists unless they fight for everyone and not just their own immediate oppression.

Thanks, you killed anarchism. Hope you're happy.

Anarchism, as well as the far-left, is dead.

[Conscentia]

Fascism is like Communism. Awesome in theory, brutal totalitarian dictatorships with no regard for basic human rights in practice. But still, awesome in theory

If something is "awesome in theory" but not in practice then you've misjudged the theory.

[Great Kauthar]

I'm not a Fascist but I strongly sympathize with Clerical Fascism (such as that espoused by the Rexists, the Ustase and the Fatherland Front)

[Prolix Debate]

Fascism is cringe imho

Right wingers mature into the classical and conservative right-wing, usually.

Believing in the rights of the deprived workers and a nationalist identity isn't "cringy".

[Jochizyd Republic]

I'm not a Fascist but I strongly sympathize with Clerical Fascism (such as that espoused by the Rexists, the Ustase and the Fatherland Front)

>Fetishizes Serbia
>Likes the Ustaše

[Jochizyd Republic]

It's a pity the Ustaše were Nazi Ultranats. They did well defending the homeland and uniting the people there against the Serbian Threat.

[Bakery Hill]

There is a phenomena called "manarchism" which pops up often in the anarchist left usually when it comes to social issues like racism and sexism. Actual anarchists view racism and sexism as oppressive hierarchies that must be destroyed to have an equal world. Anarchists that go "no war but the class war", don't care about social issues besides class, or uses oppressive speech without care severely miss the point of destroying all oppressive structures and not just ones that oppress them. Fighting and ending sexism is just as important as fighting and ending capitalism and anarchists need to be intersectional and do both. Anarchists regularly call out these manarchists of not actually being anarchists unless they fight for everyone and not just their own immediate oppression.

Thanks, you killed anarchism. Hope you're happy.

Anarchism, as well as the far-left, is dead.

What?