Fascism Discussion Thread

[Wulfenia]

Fascism is the name of a political ideology which arose in Italy when Benito Mussolini created the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento. Initially a small nationalist group that later morphed into a large party that managed to frighten the king into handing constitutional power to it's leader, it's vitality and success in defeating the Communists inspired several other movements across the world. After WW2 and the defeat of both Germany and Italy, nobody outside a few nationalist movements have called themselves "Fascist." it has become an epithet for what people don't like.

This thread is to discuss Fascist politics, economics, and history.

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Classical Fascism is tolerable.

Falangism in particular is based as hell.

[Baltenstein]

Fascism is a rational and effective ideology that has worked out wonderfully in no place ever.

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn?

A bunch of quasi-mafia racist thugs with the general education level of a rock.

[Wulfenia]

Fascism is a rational and effective ideology that has worked out wonderfully in no place ever.

Fascist autarchy increased industrial production, and was responsible for the order necessary for the Italian economic miracle after WW2.

[Conserative Morality]

I have more fascist sympathies than I probably should, as a liberal progressive type. Shame it seems to be championed primarily by twats.

Fascist autarchy increased industrial production, and was responsible for the order necessary for the Italian economic miracle after WW2.

Autarky actually inefficient and stupid as hell.

[The United Remnants of America]

I know it's not a thing with classical fascism, but I've kind of personally taken fascism and combined it with a utilitarian mindset as well as state-capitalist economic values. Actually, it's what I developed over years for my nation.

Not sure if there's a real life form of fascism that's like that. I doubt there is, but I guess you never know.

[Socialist Tera]

I really dislike fascism but I will chime in with information. I used to be a zionist fascist when I was younger, used to love Mosley. I would be killed for being a degenerate in a fascist state.

Fascism is the name of a political ideology which arose in Italy when Benito Mussolini created the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento. Initially a small nationalist group that later morphed into a large party that managed to frighten the king into handing constitutional power to it's leader, it's vitality and success in defeating the Communists inspired several other movements across the world. After WW2 and the defeat of both Germany and Italy, nobody outside a few nationalist movements have called themselves "Fascist." it has become an epithet for what people don't like.

This thread is to discuss Fascist politics, economics, and history.

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.

Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?

[Imperial Union of America]

Finally, a thread i can get behind!.

The Golden dawn is necessary for the future of greece, what with all the economic and refugee problems there, they might be the saviours of Europe.

[The United Remnants of America]

Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?

In my "perfect" form of fascism, they'd be cool. "This is an equal oppression state."

You get the idea. Transgender people are fine as long as nobody causes waves and everyone does their job.

[Socialist Tera]

Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?

In my "perfect" form of fascism, they'd be cool. "This is an equal oppression state."

You get the idea. Transgender people are fine as long as nobody causes waves and everyone does their job.

Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.

Fascism is a rational and effective ideology that has worked out wonderfully in no place ever.

Fascist autarchy increased industrial production, and was responsible for the order necessary for the Italian economic miracle after WW2.

It increases the industrial military complex but the overall production rate did not increase as much as in the Soviet Union for example.

[The United Remnants of America]

In my "perfect" form of fascism, they'd be cool. "This is an equal oppression state."

You get the idea. Transgender people are fine as long as nobody causes waves and everyone does their job.

Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.

Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.

[Imperial Union of America]

Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.

Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.

That is why one must control education and the media, you can't trust these fools we have on T.V. nowadays.

[Socialist Tera]

Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.

Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.

How would you deal with political parties which have infiltrated towns and started base areas?

[Wulfenia]

I have more fascist sympathies than I probably should, as a liberal progressive type. Shame it seems to be championed primarily by twats.

Fascist autarchy increased industrial production, and was responsible for the order necessary for the Italian economic miracle after WW2.

Autarky actually inefficient and stupid as hell.

"The changes witnessed during the second half of the 1930's were undeniably responsible for the formation of that technical, geographical, and social order which was to enable the performance of the so-called economic miracle and the definitive transformation of Italy into an industrialized country." - Source

I really dislike fascism but I will chime in with information. I used to be a zionist fascist when I was younger, used to love Mosley. I would be killed for being a degenerate in a fascist state.

Fascism is the name of a political ideology which arose in Italy when Benito Mussolini created the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento. Initially a small nationalist group that later morphed into a large party that managed to frighten the king into handing constitutional power to it's leader, it's vitality and success in defeating the Communists inspired several other movements across the world. After WW2 and the defeat of both Germany and Italy, nobody outside a few nationalist movements have called themselves "Fascist." it has become an epithet for what people don't like.

This thread is to discuss Fascist politics, economics, and history.

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.

Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?

From what I saw in the RWDT a month back, I don't think you really had a good grasp on what Fascism was, since you equated it with conservativism, which it is not. Fascist Italy tended to be a lot milder in it's treatment of homosexuals than what Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, or even Great Britain were. Since I am transgender, I'd say there's nothing really in Fascism to justify homophobia or transphobia, since the basis of Fascism is personal responsibility for one's actions (at least, that was how Gentile felt, and what he imparted in the Doctrine of Fascism).

[Minzerland II]

Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.

Ruffians.

[The United Remnants of America]

Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.

How would you deal with political parties which have infiltrated towns and started base areas?

Round up the leadership, give them a simple warning to cease and desist, if they don't, they go to prison with any number of charges until they learn why they shouldn't be doing that.

The regular members/attendees would be fine unless they try to resist or try to reform the party.

[Imperial Union of America]

Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.

Ruffians.

Call them what you want, but a Fascist state has never came about without it's fair share of force.

[Socialist Tera]

I have more fascist sympathies than I probably should, as a liberal progressive type. Shame it seems to be championed primarily by twats.

Autarky actually inefficient and stupid as hell.

"The changes witnessed during the second half of the 1930's were undeniably responsible for the formation of that technical, geographical, and social order which was to enable the performance of the so-called economic miracle and the definitive transformation of Italy into an industrialized country." - Source

I really dislike fascism but I will chime in with information. I used to be a zionist fascist when I was younger, used to love Mosley. I would be killed for being a degenerate in a fascist state.


Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?

From what I saw in the RWDT a month back, I don't think you really had a good grasp on what Fascism was, since you equated it with conservativism, which it is not. Fascist Italy tended to be a lot milder in it's treatment of homosexuals than what Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, or even Great Britain were. Since I am transgender, I'd say there's nothing really in Fascism to justify homophobia or transphobia, since the basis of Fascism is personal responsibility for one's actions (at least, that was how Gentile felt, and what he imparted in the Doctrine of Fascism).

The problem with fascism is that it seemed in Italy that cronyism tend to be prevalent, there didn't seem to be many competant leaders other than Mussolini in Italy. For the record, East Germany, was quite good with lgbt making it legal since 1968. I've read that Italian fascism stated that homosexuality is wrong so I am totally non-convinced I would not be killed by fascists during change of government.

[Wulfenia]

Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.

Fascism is the completion of liberalism, the Fascist state is the purification of the liberal state.

[Minzerland II]

Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.


Ruffians.

Call them what you want, but a Fascist state has never came about without it's fair share of force.

That was a quick analysis of Golden Dawn, of course.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.

Fascism is the completion of liberalism, the Fascist state is the purification of the liberal state.

If you want to purify a liberal state, you become conservative.

[Torsiedelle]

To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.

As someone with a Greek side to my family...

I'm all for the Golden Dawn. I think they're one of Greece's best hopes at the moment. I'm proud to see them when they demonstrate and represent Greece. I'm also partial to their ideas of removing immigrants, especially Turks, from the nation.

I was going to ask what you would think of Transgenders and Gays in relation to Fascism, but I see that's already been dealt with. So...how to you feel about Pan-European Nationalism, Anti-Islamic movements, and Race-mixing, seeing as though Fascism itself doesn't seem to have a strong stance on any other it, while National Socialism and offshoots of Fascism do.

Also, Fascism and modern Neo-Fascist and Neo-Nazi movements...how do you feel about them as separate ideologies, or rather, how do you feel about various modern Neo-Fascist and Neo-Nazi movements?

[The United Remnants of America]

Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.


Ruffians.

Call them what you want, but a Fascist state has never came about without it's fair share of force.

There are ruffian and agreeable fascists like there are ruffian and agreeable communists.

Golden Dawn are ruffians. Might as well shave their heads and put them in leathers on Harley Davidsons.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Golden Dawn needs a good old fashioned Ottoman put down.

[Imperial Union of America]

Homosexuality is not something that should be celebrated in a Fascist state, but i don't think we should go out of our way to stop it. I don't see it as inherently bad unless it is causing a spread of HIV or something.