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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

Bomb hits Parliament - AP
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

Huge explosions in Turkey, the parliament hit by rocket.

Oops not parliament, the national tv.
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Postby Serconas » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

Baltenstein wrote:They really should have started this coup by arresting Erdogan.

He was in the countryside on vacation as it started.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:how? do you need to literally get arrested by erdogan before you have an "oh... right" moment?


I said it a few pages ago, Erdogan will come back as emboldened as never.


oh btw i'm arresting you for insulting a public official on for his duty for implying erdogan is or will become a dictator as a result of this. please fly to turkey for your trial. i understand that the current situation makes it hard to do that, so i will commute your trial until we capture the airports at least.
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Postby The 93rd Coalition » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

the die is cast
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
The Confederation of the Pacific wrote:Obama officially supports Erdogan

He's hedging his bets, but the army is way better for him in the fight against ISIS and he knows that.

America didn't immediately come out against the coup. So the fact that it has now suggests that the US believes it has failed, and there is no point backing it.
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Postby New Raffica » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Reports that parliament has been bombed
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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Seraven wrote:I'm too surprised by this coup.

But I'm still in favor of Erdogan.

Kelinfort wrote:He's hedging his bets, but the army is way better for him in the fight against ISIS and he knows that.


He still claimed he supports Erdogan, or the democratically elected government. Will he actually uses military to Turkey?

No, the US military isn't going to get involved. He issued a statement and that's it.
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Postby Upendo Mwenyewe » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.
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Postby Calimera II » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Baltenstein wrote:They really should have started this coup by arresting Erdogan.

He wasn't in Turkey.
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Postby Vlamistaatti » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Must be hell of annoying for the soldiers to try differentiate whose on government's side and who is part of the coup faction.
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Postby Serconas » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Huge explosions in Turkey, the parliament hit by rocket.

Oops not parliament, the national tv.

Rocket from a helicopter as per Sky News.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Mefpan wrote:
Olerand wrote:All signs point to failure. The coup has no international backing, no political domestic backing, and the AKP is on the ground. This was a dangerous card that these military factions played, and Erdogan's fury will be extremely unpleasant.

Incredibly disappointed by Europe right now. We're getting fucked over by Erdogan that badly and then we just let an opportunity to finally get fucking rid of that demagogue float by.

It's not a good idea to support coups. Especially ones that are doomed to fail. You have to, I believe the term is, hedge your bets.
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Postby Calimera II » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.
Erdogan stays.


White. White. White. White. White.

:roll: You sound pretty racist.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.


is this what you actually believe

what do you actually know about erdogan (keeping in mind that saying mean things about erdogan is literally a crime)
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Postby Herargon » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

The Confederation of the Pacific wrote:Obama officially supports Erdogan


Disgusting... a man saying he supports freedom condemns an army trying to overthrow a dictator that feels so insulted by satire of himself.
Though there are not such great memories of the earlier dictatorship in Turkey, when they invaded Cyprus and ethnically cleansed the population of the north. :/
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Postby Mefpan » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.

There's always old age.
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Postby Lindenholt » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.

I think it's harder for them to control their triggers, to not shoot civilians and cause chaos.
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Postby The 93rd Coalition » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.


Can the outcome be that easily decided at this point? It seems like all the details surrounding the forces behind the movement are sketchy.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:They really should have started this coup by arresting Erdogan.

He wasn't in Turkey.


Actually I believe he was in Southern Turkey but he managed to bring himself into safety. He spent the last couple of hours in a jet above Europe.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.

As opposed to? The black Turks?
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Postby Upendo Mwenyewe » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.
Erdogan stays.


White. White. White. White. White.

:roll: You sound pretty racist.


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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Upendo Mwenyewe wrote:Sorry, foreign backers. Sorry, military autocrats. Sorry, Europhile white Turks.

Erdogan stays.

Are you Turkish State Intelligence mate, because I bet you were the same person who would have said, "UK is staying in the EU"
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Tragic that it seems to have failed.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Herargon wrote:
The Confederation of the Pacific wrote:Obama officially supports Erdogan


Disgusting... a man saying he supports freedom condemns an army trying to overthrow a dictator that feels so insulted by satire of himself.


He hasn't condemned anyone. He didn't even mention Erdogan by name,

Obama is recognizing that as of now, the coup hasn't won, and so there is no point supporting it.
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