Teacher Rapes Minor, Gets Charges Dropped

[Benuty]

Regardless of whether or not the two believed it to be consensual.

I don't understand how this issue can warrant such a response.

what

I understand the saying evil cannot comprehend good, but don't tell anarchism cannot comprehend statism?

Joking

[Galloism]

Probably not - because that's very oddly specific criteria you used.

Exactly equal cases are not necessary to show a general trend.

Not exactly equal of course, but just something general, like statutory rape.

There's a lot of variation across states and countries regarding statutory rape as to sentencing and so forth, along with a lot of latitude within the court itself. We do know that underage boys are slightly less likely to be abused than girls sexually, most perpetrators against boys are female, and yet it's a very rare thing to ever see a woman charged with statutory rape.

Now, in regards to Australia in particular, I can't seem to find any statistics about how people are sentenced for this crime. Their statistics website doesn't go down that far.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.a ... statistics

If you want to look at it.


However, in the United States, we studied it. Men receive 63% higher sentences if convicted, women were twice as likely to avoid prison if convicted of the same crime, and were also more likely to avoid charges entirely for the same crimes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 74742.html

[Napkiraly]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

What's it it like to be a rape apologist?

[Costa Fierro]

I don't know. Is there a case with the same circumstances (age, location, etc) but genders reversed?

Then we wouldn't have to speculate.

Probably not - because that's very oddly specific criteria you used.

Exactly equal cases are not necessary to show a general trend.

I did a quick Google search and the ones that I did find were all women.

[Swith Witherward]

I couldn't find much on the story other than " allegations of an inappropriate relationship with a student". We don't have enough details, really. We don't know what evidence was made available, or if there was a lack of evidence. So really, "Teacher Rapes Minor, Gets Charges Dropped" could easily be "Falsely Accused Teacher Gets Acquitted".

Does anyone have a link to a more informative news source?

[MERIZoC]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

What's it it like to be a rape apologist?

Whats it like to be a strawman builder? Does it pay well?

[Costa Fierro]

I couldn't find much on the story other than " allegations of an inappropriate relationship with a student". We don't have enough details, really. We don't know what evidence was made available, or if there was a lack of evidence. So really, "Teacher Rapes Minor, Gets Charges Dropped" could easily be "Falsely Accused Teacher Gets Acquitted".

Does anyone have a link to a more informative news source?

This has a bit more information.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

What?

Why were they not in the public interest not to pursue them?

[Europe and Oceania]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

lol!

If it was a male that had done this with a female student, the teacher would have been publicly shamed and had his face and name planted across every single bit of media in Western Australia, if not, across Australia itself, not to mention the sentence served would have been the maximum possible under the law. So why is it acceptable that a female teacher is afforded the privacy protections that a male perpetrator would not have? Why is it acceptable that the charges are dropped?

Oh yay, more unsourced mra bullshit from costa.

And lol again.

I'm sure the minor enjoyed it. The Right are always trying to reverse the discrimination.
We men have it the worst according to the conservatives.

[MERIZoC]

Not exactly equal of course, but just something general, like statutory rape.

There's a lot of variation across states and countries regarding statutory rape as to sentencing and so forth, along with a lot of latitude within the court itself. We do know that underage boys are slightly less likely to be abused than girls sexually, most perpetrators against boys are female, and yet it's a very rare thing to ever see a woman charged with statutory rape.

Now, in regards to Australia in particular, I can't seem to find any statistics about how people are sentenced for this crime. Their statistics website doesn't go down that far.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.a ... statistics

If you want to look at it.


However, in the United States, we studied it. Men receive 63% higher sentences if convicted, women were twice as likely to avoid prison if convicted of the same crime, and were also more likely to avoid charges entirely for the same crimes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 74742.html

I don't see anything on gender in the first source, maybe Im missing something, and the second doesn't say anything about statutory rape, just crime in general.

[Trotskylvania]

with the prosecution saying it was not in the public interest to pursue them.

This is bureaucratic code for "I don't have the evidence or testimony to guarantee a conviction, so I'm not going to stake my record as a prosecutor on bothering."

[Napkiraly]

What's it it like to be a rape apologist?

Whats it like to be a strawman builder? Does it pay well?

It's not a strawman since you are being a rape apologist by declaring it to be consensual.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

lol!

Oh yay, more unsourced mra bullshit from costa.

And lol again.

I'm sure the minor enjoyed it. The Right are always trying to reverse the discrimination.
Men have it the worst according to the conservatives.

Well, men get raped sometimes. We're not sex monsters, unlike what /pol/acks and other dumbfucks think.

with the prosecution saying it was not in the public interest to pursue them.

This is bureaucratic code for "I don't have the evidence or testimony to guarantee a conviction, so I'm not going to stake my record as a prosecutor on bothering."

Hopefully. Why couldn't he say it in a less easily manipulable fashion?

[MERIZoC]

Whats it like to be a strawman builder? Does it pay well?

It's not a strawman since you are being a rape apologist by declaring it to be consensual.

I'm arguing that a very broad and controversial definition of a type of rape should not be considered such. This is an argument that is reasoned and thought out. How is that rape apology?

[Costa Fierro]

I'm sure the minor enjoyed it. The Right are always trying to reverse the discrimination.
Men have it the worst according to the conservatives.

So you're suggesting that the minor was essentially asking for it? Would you be willing to make the same statement if it was a female student who was raped or sexually abused?

[New haven america]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

No, it's statutory rape, which is legally a big deal.

[Galloism]

There's a lot of variation across states and countries regarding statutory rape as to sentencing and so forth, along with a lot of latitude within the court itself. We do know that underage boys are slightly less likely to be abused than girls sexually, most perpetrators against boys are female, and yet it's a very rare thing to ever see a woman charged with statutory rape.

Now, in regards to Australia in particular, I can't seem to find any statistics about how people are sentenced for this crime. Their statistics website doesn't go down that far.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.a ... statistics

If you want to look at it.


However, in the United States, we studied it. Men receive 63% higher sentences if convicted, women were twice as likely to avoid prison if convicted of the same crime, and were also more likely to avoid charges entirely for the same crimes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 74742.html

I don't see anything on gender in the first source, maybe Im missing something, and the second doesn't say anything about statutory rape, just crime in general.

Yes, that is true.

Statutory rape it's probably even worse than average, though. Problem is, we prosecute statutory rape against women so very rarely, it's hard to gather good statistical data on it.

Yeah, it's that bad.

[MERIZoC]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

No, it's statutory rape, which is legally a big deal.

I don't give two fucks about the law lmao

If we still had miscegenation laws would y'all still be complaining in that sort of case?

[Dagashi Shojo]

Oh no, consensual sex. How will the world ever recover?

lol!

Oh yay, more unsourced mra bullshit from costa.

And lol again.

I'm sure the minor enjoyed it. The Right are always trying to reverse the discrimination.
Men have it the worst according to the conservatives.

Conservatives are often the ones who mock male rape victims, gender roles reinforce the idea that boys are horny beasts who always want it, so if a woman has sex with him, he obviously enjoyed it.

[MERIZoC]

I'm sure the minor enjoyed it. The Right are always trying to reverse the discrimination.
Men have it the worst according to the conservatives.

So you're suggesting that the minor was essentially asking for it? Would you be willing to make the same statement if it was a female student who was raped or sexually abused?

I mean he may have literally asked for it we don't know the specifics. Don't try to argue that this is the same as a guy raping a girl for wearing short shorts.

[Galloism]

So you're suggesting that the minor was essentially asking for it? Would you be willing to make the same statement if it was a female student who was raped or sexually abused?

I mean he may have literally asked for it we don't know the specifics. Don't try to argue that this is the same as a guy raping a girl for wearing short shorts.

No, it's like a guy raping a girl because she was underage and unable to consent, while he held a position of authority over her.

[Costa Fierro]

I'm arguing that a very broad and controversial definition of a type of rape should not be considered such.

If someone cannot give valid consent to sex, how is it not rape?

How is that rape apology?

You're calling it consensual and making the argument that if isn't consensual, then it's rape. The law in Western Australia clearly states that it's illegal for people in positions of authority to have sex with minors under the age of 18, as they cannot give valid consent. If you can't give valid consent, then surely is it not considered rape?

[MERIZoC]

I mean he may have literally asked for it we don't know the specifics. Don't try to argue that this is the same as a guy raping a girl for wearing short shorts.

No, it's like a guy raping a girl because she was underage and unable to consent, while he held a position of authority over her.

See this is the part where we disagree.

[MERIZoC]

I'm arguing that a very broad and controversial definition of a type of rape should not be considered such.

If someone cannot give valid consent to sex, how is it not rape?

How is that rape apology?

You're calling it consensual and making the argument that if isn't consensual, then it's rape. The law in Western Australia clearly states that it's illegal for people in positions of authority to have sex with minors under the age of 18, as they cannot give valid consent. If you can't give valid consent, then surely is it not considered rape?

I
dont
care
about
the
law

Holy shit why isn't this getting across?

[New haven america]

No, it's statutory rape, which is legally a big deal.

I don't give two fucks about the law lmao

So is that gonna be your excuse to the police?

"Yo, hey, I know I stole this car, but it my defence, I don't two fucks about the law, so I don't need to be arrested."