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Postby Utceforp » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:19 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Less than 73k out of 12 million is not many. You don't seem to be capable of comprehending scale, an important part of any policy creation.


Immigrants are "screened". The vast majority of illegal immigrants simply don't leave after their visa expires. "Screening more" wouldn't do a thing.


How you're so ignorant about how scale and immigration actually work in the real world.

Freefall, listen to me. I don't give a shit if it's 0.0000000001% of illegals that are criminals!

I genuinely cannot tell if you're a poe or not right now.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:20 pm

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Postby Theodolia » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:21 pm

I don't give a shit if it's 0.0000000001% of illegals that are criminals!


I don't think anybody in this thread doubts this.

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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:29 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:Freefall, listen to me. I don't give a shit if it's 0.0000000001% of illegals that are criminals! The fact that thousands of them are criminals and most of them (criminals) are violent and have killed Americans is sickening. We need to protect the American people first instead of letting in everybody!

You seriously overestimate how lenient the American immigration system is if you think "everybody" is being let in. Start here. Read through that and then dare to tell me that the US immigration system is anything but strict.

The Portland Territory wrote:Also, *citation needed*

For most illegal immigrants being overstayers? Sure.

Kid, that's a political cartoon made for a small, Libertarian magazine. I was hoping for some government citation but I guess not.........

Ok, that may be true. But what about the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are just crossing the border annually?
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The Portland Territory wrote:Freefall, listen to me. I don't give a shit if it's 0.0000000001% of illegals that are criminals!

I genuinely cannot tell if you're a poe or not right now.

What do you mean?
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:40 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Kid, that's a political cartoon made for a small, Libertarian magazine. I was hoping for some government citation but I guess not.........

If you don't believe the fairly basic statistics shown (for example, the amount of visas given out per yer per category or the amount of time it takes for a resident to become a citizen), feel free to read more here.

The Portland Territory wrote:Ok, that may be true. But what about the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are just crossing the border annually?

Statistically insignificant and not enough to warrant "the wall" which would cost somewhere in the range of $15 to $25 billion, plus whatever it'll cost to maintain a year for questionable results.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:42 pm

I'm glad no one is hurt...but at the same time I wouldn't have been too choked up if he grazed him. You know just enough to take him out of the running.
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Postby Legionary United States » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:49 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:I'm glad no one is hurt...but at the same time I wouldn't have been too choked up if he grazed him. You know just enough to take him out of the running.

It would be hilarious if the shot took his hair piece off :rofl:
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:50 pm

Legionary United States wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I'm glad no one is hurt...but at the same time I wouldn't have been too choked up if he grazed him. You know just enough to take him out of the running.

It would be hilarious if the shot took his hair piece off :rofl:

Should I feel bad for laughing like an idiot with an open window at this hour?

like this? https://youtu.be/0c-UIkfsk1U?t=1m22s
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby New Granadeseret » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:56 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:I'm glad no one is hurt...but at the same time I wouldn't have been too choked up if he grazed him. You know just enough to take him out of the running.


If you're against Trump, I would highly advise against being happy about giving his supporters a "stabbed in the back" narrative.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:57 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I'm glad no one is hurt...but at the same time I wouldn't have been too choked up if he grazed him. You know just enough to take him out of the running.


If you're against Trump, I would highly advise against being happy about giving his supporters a "stabbed in the back" narrative.

You have to trust someone to be betrayed. I doubt Trump even knew the guy.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:00 pm

I am glad he was stopped.

I despise Trump, but I will never condone vigilantism, murder, or terrorism as an acceptable part of the political process. Both because those things are wrong in and of themselves, and because they lead to bad results for society as a whole.

I don't want Trump dead. I want him defeated in the election, his views repudiated by We the People, not made a martyr for fascism and white supremacy.
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Postby Anti-Moe Federal Republics » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:Clearly we are dealing with a consummate professional here. The only question is: Who hired this Bourne-esque hunter of the deadliest game? ISIS? Hillary? The RNC? The Ghost of Osama Bin Laden? Jesus? Trump himself?

We're through the looking glass, people.

From what people have claimed he is either an Illuminati agent, a Chinese spy, or a Mexican spy.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:02 pm

Anti-Moe Federal Republics wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Clearly we are dealing with a consummate professional here. The only question is: Who hired this Bourne-esque hunter of the deadliest game? ISIS? Hillary? The RNC? The Ghost of Osama Bin Laden? Jesus? Trump himself?

We're through the looking glass, people.

From what people have claimed he is either an Illuminati agent, a Chinese spy, or a Mexican spy.

Obviously this means Trump is a Templar
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Nundai » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:26 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:I am glad he was stopped.

I despise Trump, but I will never condone vigilantism, murder, or terrorism as an acceptable part of the political process. Both because those things are wrong in and of themselves, and because they lead to bad results for society as a whole.

I don't want Trump dead. I want him defeated in the election, his views repudiated by We the People, not made a martyr for fascism and white supremacy.

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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:43 pm

Ey, Trump already got more merit to his safety than all the articles where reporters said they heard that someone was going to strike at Obama.

Going to get an ounce of the same media outrage? Of course not. Either way, glad his majesty was caught and by the looks of him he is probably not going to enjoy big boy jail.
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Postby East Catalina » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:19 pm

The balkens wrote:Also, the wall just got 10 feet higher, nice going fam.

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Postby Risottia » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:41 pm

Sack Jackpot Winners wrote:Michael Steven Sanford, a British national, went for an officer's gun at a Trump rally, planning to use it to shoot the candidate.

I blame the Bond movies. Now every nutter thinks the voices he's hearing are the MI6 telling him what to do.
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Postby Bhikkustan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:44 pm

Didn't try hard enough, clearly.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:16 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Kid, that's a political cartoon made for a small, Libertarian magazine. I was hoping for some government citation but I guess not.........

If you don't believe the fairly basic statistics shown (for example, the amount of visas given out per yer per category or the amount of time it takes for a resident to become a citizen), feel free to read more here.

The Portland Territory wrote:Ok, that may be true. But what about the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are just crossing the border annually?

Statistically insignificant and not enough to warrant "the wall" which would cost somewhere in the range of $15 to $25 billion, plus whatever it'll cost to maintain a year for questionable results.

Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) provides protection from deportation for individuals whose home countries are unstable, therefore making return dangerous. Unlike TPS, which is authorized by statute, DED is at the discretion of the executive branch.

Certain individuals may be allowed to enter the U.S. through parole, even though he or she may not meet the definition of a refugee and may not be eligible to immigrate through other channels. Parolees may be admitted temporarily for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit.

I believe that illegal immigrants from Latin America would qualify for this.

Also, if the wall will have "questionable results", then why has the National Border Patrol Council, who has had a policy of never endorsing a president, endorsed Trump and advocates for the wall? They know what's best for the border, better than any other statistician or politician.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:58 am

>british
>knowing how to use a gun

pencils that are a certain length are counted as weapons here for fuck sake
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Postby Zoice » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:00 am

Not terribly surprised. He's still a fucking idiot though.
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Postby Ithqington » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:12 am

Hey idiot

Next time. Don't try to kill Donald Trump by stealing a gun from a cop.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:06 am

Well, this is embarassing. Do you think Trump is going to call for a ban on all British people entering the US now?
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Old Tyrannia wrote:Well, this is embarassing. Do you think Trump is going to call for a ban on all British people entering the US now?

It's long overdue.
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