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Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictator

General Admiral Haffaz Aladeen (The Dictator)
20
11%
Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars)
44
24%
The Emperor (WH40k)
43
23%
Autarch Scolar Visari (Killzone)
6
3%
President Snow (The Hunger Games trilogy)
18
10%
Sauron (Lord of the Rings)
21
11%
Arcturus Mengsk (StarCraft series)
4
2%
Big Brother (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
15
8%
Adam Susan/Sutler (V for Vendetta)
15
8%
 
Total votes : 186

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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Sun May 22, 2016 12:06 pm

Traditionalism wrote:Come home, fascists.

https://i.imgur.com/2QcOS2P.png


You'd find more people to your liking on 8chan. This is not a fertile recruiting ground.
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Great Kauthar
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Postby Great Kauthar » Sun May 22, 2016 1:11 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:Here we go again. Here's an idea to make this thread a little more interesting: The NSG Right-Wing Discussion Thread Drinking Game.

  • The OP is banned for something..
  • OP asks for poll suggestions, promptly ignores all suggestions from people he doesn't like.


I am open to suggestions for additions to the list.

Okay for the first one, not gonna happen so cross that off your list boy
for the second one that's just because I missed them and when I saw them the thread was coming to an end so I decided to wait until this one
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Atelia
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Postby Atelia » Sun May 22, 2016 1:14 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:Here we go again. Here's an idea to make this thread a little more interesting: The NSG Right-Wing Discussion Thread Drinking Game.

  • The OP is banned for something.
  • A left-winger appears, makes a dismissive or vaguely insulting comment, then disappears without making any effort to debate.
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Some attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.
  • Traditionalism makes an assertion, then fails to support it.
  • Traditionalism avoids debate by making reference to some vague concept of "the Truth" which everyone else simply doesn't understand.
  • A raging debate breaks out about LGBT issues.
  • Down the bottle if Renewed Imperial Germany is involved in starting above debate.
  • OP asks for poll suggestions, promptly ignores all suggestions from people he doesn't like.
  • A left-winger enters and begins ferociously attacking a political strawman with no relevance to the previous topic of discussion.
  • A right-winger appears with views corresponding almost exactly to the above strawman, causing most other right-wingers in the thread to smash their heads against their desks repeatedly until they pass out from severe brain damage and internal bleeding.
  • An NSG veteran reminisces about the time when the NSG Right was still respectable.


I am open to suggestions for additions to the list.

I appreciate it, but id rather keep my liver. Heh.
Anyways, I am a traditionalist, a Eurasianist, and Monarchist from Russia. I will be around from time to time.
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Grinstead
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Postby Grinstead » Sun May 22, 2016 1:20 pm

Traditionalism wrote:Come home, fascists.

https://i.imgur.com/2QcOS2P.png

Resisting so hard to sign up and start shitposting Zionism.
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Atelia
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Postby Atelia » Sun May 22, 2016 1:22 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:


Liberated Territories previously argued that traditionalism, fascism, monarchism, and social conservativism were left wing.

You can't blame me for taking this seriously.

Well thats down right crazy.
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Dinake
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Postby Dinake » Sun May 22, 2016 1:22 pm

Grinstead wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:Come home, fascists.

https://i.imgur.com/2QcOS2P.png

Resisting so hard to sign up and start shitposting Zionism.

They're not that kind of fascists.
They're something else altogether.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 22, 2016 1:23 pm

Dinake wrote:
Grinstead wrote:Resisting so hard to sign up and start shitposting Zionism.

They're not that kind of fascists.
They're something else altogether.

Iron March seems indistinguishable from other branches of Neo-Nazism.
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Postby Dinake » Sun May 22, 2016 1:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Dinake wrote:They're not that kind of fascists.
They're something else altogether.

Iron March seems indistinguishable from other branches of Neo-Nazism.

They're crazier and more "metaphysical", which, while being a real word, doesn't really apply in this context. They'd be more likely to talk your ear off about Evola.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 22, 2016 1:59 pm

Dinake wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Iron March seems indistinguishable from other branches of Neo-Nazism.

They're crazier and more "metaphysical", which, while being a real word, doesn't really apply in this context. They'd be more likely to talk your ear off about Evola.

So they prefer the occult aspect of Nazism to everything else?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Postby Dinake » Sun May 22, 2016 2:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Dinake wrote:They're crazier and more "metaphysical", which, while being a real word, doesn't really apply in this context. They'd be more likely to talk your ear off about Evola.

So they prefer the occult aspect of Nazism to everything else?

No, they prefer some occultist italian pseudo-fascist to everything else.
Admittedly, I've tried not to pay attention to Traditionalism. But that's what I gathered from him.
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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun May 22, 2016 2:04 pm

Traditionalism wrote:Come home, fascists.

https://i.imgur.com/2QcOS2P.png


Reality is outside waiting for you. Get off the computer, go for a run, meet some people outside the internet.

I'm being serious, your dogmatic beliefs towards fascism are just unhealthy.

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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun May 22, 2016 2:35 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:you should amend the poll to be:

Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Libertarian or related (includes anarchism)
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist

Old Tyrannia wrote:
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" socialist in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Some attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.
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Atelia
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Postby Atelia » Sun May 22, 2016 2:42 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:you should amend the poll to be:

Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Libertarian or related (includes anarchism)
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist

Old Tyrannia wrote:
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" socialist in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Some attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.

Kha kha, nice amendment.
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Renewed Imperial Germany
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sun May 22, 2016 3:11 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:you should amend the poll to be:

Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Libertarian or related (includes anarchism)
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist
Socialist

Old Tyrannia wrote:
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" socialist in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Some attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.


Do you want me to die of alcohol poisoning?!

And dammit I need more Jagermeister!
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Rhyfelnydd
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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Sun May 22, 2016 3:28 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:Here we go again. Here's an idea to make this thread a little more interesting: The NSG Right-Wing Discussion Thread Drinking Game.

  • The OP is banned for something.
  • A left-winger appears, makes a dismissive or vaguely insulting comment, then disappears without making any effort to debate.
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Some attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.
  • Traditionalism makes an assertion, then fails to support it.
  • Traditionalism avoids debate by making reference to some vague concept of "the Truth" which everyone else simply doesn't understand.
  • A raging debate breaks out about LGBT issues.
  • Down the bottle if Renewed Imperial Germany is involved in starting above debate.
  • OP asks for poll suggestions, promptly ignores all suggestions from people he doesn't like.
  • A left-winger enters and begins ferociously attacking a political strawman with no relevance to the previous topic of discussion.
  • A right-winger appears with views corresponding almost exactly to the above strawman, causing most other right-wingers in the thread to smash their heads against their desks repeatedly until they pass out from severe brain damage and internal bleeding.
  • An NSG veteran reminisces about the time when the NSG Right was still respectable.


I am open to suggestions for additions to the list.

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Great Nilfgaard
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Postby Great Nilfgaard » Sun May 22, 2016 3:58 pm

Grinstead wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:Come home, fascists.

https://i.imgur.com/2QcOS2P.png

Resisting so hard to sign up and start shitposting Zionism.


Modern Zionism is respectable. Western nationalists should embrace Israel.
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Carulina
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Postby Carulina » Sun May 22, 2016 4:03 pm

Great Nilfgaard wrote:
Grinstead wrote:Resisting so hard to sign up and start shitposting Zionism.


Modern Zionism is respectable. Western nationalists should embrace Israel.

Screw that.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 22, 2016 4:05 pm

Carulina wrote:
Great Nilfgaard wrote:
Modern Zionism is respectable. Western nationalists should embrace Israel.

Screw that.

What else are we going to do with Israel? They have enough issues with mad savages hoping to exterminate them.
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Carulina
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Postby Carulina » Sun May 22, 2016 4:10 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Carulina wrote:Screw that.

What else are we going to do with Israel? They have enough issues with mad savages hoping to exterminate them.
Maybe they should be exterminated. I don't share your love for Israel.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 22, 2016 4:11 pm

Carulina wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:What else are we going to do with Israel? They have enough issues with mad savages hoping to exterminate them.
Maybe they should be exterminated. I don't share your love for Israel.

Genocide is typically regarded as evil, for your information. As is antisemitism.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Carulina
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Postby Carulina » Sun May 22, 2016 4:19 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Carulina wrote:Maybe they should be exterminated. I don't share your love for Israel.

Genocide is typically regarded as evil, for your information. As is antisemitism.

I'm no supporter of genocide, I do however oppose my nation being catering to the whims of an insignificant nation we should be dominating like the rest of the middle east.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 22, 2016 4:32 pm

Carulina wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Genocide is typically regarded as evil, for your information. As is antisemitism.

I'm no supporter of genocide, I do however oppose my nation being catering to the whims of an insignificant nation we should be dominating like the rest of the middle east.

A democratic, nuclear-armed regional power is nothing to scoff at. Israel is a beacon in a geographical region drenched in savagery.
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun May 22, 2016 4:54 pm

Carulina wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Genocide is typically regarded as evil, for your information. As is antisemitism.

I'm no supporter of genocide, I do however oppose my nation being catering to the whims of an insignificant nation we should be dominating like the rest of the middle east.

Israel is far from insignificant. It's the foremost military power in the Middle East, not to mention being one of the few stable countries in the region, and it has the highest standard of living in the Middle East to boot. It's a major regional power and an important ally for the US and NATO.
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Great Nilfgaard
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Postby Great Nilfgaard » Sun May 22, 2016 5:07 pm

Carulina wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:What else are we going to do with Israel? They have enough issues with mad savages hoping to exterminate them.
Maybe they should be exterminated. I don't share your love for Israel.


Throughout history, the Jewish people have proven to be remarkably durable, intelligent and innovative. Going against Israel would be remarkably stupid for an increasingly beleaguered West.
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Saiwania
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Postby Saiwania » Sun May 22, 2016 5:16 pm

So another worthless degree is going to take root in colleges/universities soon- "Islamophobia Studies." Whatever crapola is said about it will just be taken at face value rather than debated. What is there to know about those opposed to Islam? I'm sure they have their reasons and that is in response to Islam's stance on the issues which they're in direct opposition to.

http://opinion.injo.com/2016/05/256066- ... a-studies/
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