European Migrant Crisis Megathread

[Sanctissima]

So, essentially, you're saying that half of the Bible is wrong?

Half of the Bible is included as a historical reference. Remember how in science class you sometimes were taught an obsolete concept first, then told it was proven wrong by someone later?

It's not "wrong", as in Christianity holds it to be a broadly genuine record of the events and laws of the pre-Christian era. The New Testament then records later events, in which the law established in the Old one is deprecated and replaced with new rules.

Not to be pushy, but do you have any theological evidence for this? As in, any Churches or higher-up members of a clergy who have actually said this?

[The Nuclear Fist]

I was always taught that the OT wasn't wrong from a Biblical perspective, just obsolete. Don't get me wrong, every part of the Bible is almost completely wrong in every scientific and historical way, but internally everything before the demigod himself is just obsolete.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Umm... What does this have to do with the thread?

Something about migrants making Europe quote-unquote "immoral" just by existing.

Given that Kauthar seems to share a lot of the morals of radical islamists and islamofascists, I think his disagreements with them are mostly over minor details and semantics at this point.

[Vassenor]

Something about migrants making Europe quote-unquote "immoral" just by existing.

Given that Kauthar seems to share a lot of the morals of radical islamists and islamofascists, I think his disagreements with them are mostly over minor details and semantics at this point.

I think I'm really starting to get tired of how easily we can apply horseshoe theory to reality.

[The Nuclear Fist]

What a vibrant culture these migrants have. Clearly Germany is being enriched by bringing in the unique (and undoubtedly tolerant, after all surely the peoplevrunning from the Middle East are all socially liberal leftists) views and beliefs of these poor individuals.

That gay man should have just not been openly gay around them. After all, they have no duty to integrate and we have to respect their beliefs. Islam is the religion of peace, after all. Don't forget about the poor plight of the refugee, you racist!

Obvious troll is obvious.

If you think I'm a troll instead of just being sarcastic, you should go ahead and report me, otherwise you're just trollnaming.

[Grays Harbor]

So Atheists and non-Christians cannot marry?

they shouldn't be allowed to.

Sorry. Marriage has been around a lot longer than the christian church.

[Vassenor]

they shouldn't be allowed to.

Sorry. Marriage has been around a lot longer than the christian church.

And the concept of marriage as we know it today has only really existed for the last couple of centuries.

[Kauthar]

Something about migrants making Europe quote-unquote "immoral" just by existing.

Given that Kauthar seems to share a lot of the morals of radical islamists and islamofascists, I think his disagreements with them are mostly over minor details and semantics at this point.

Nope. I don't support killing all non believers, i don't support oppressing women or killing sodomites either.
also I don't support the degeneracy of Islam in general.

[Geilinor]

Given that Kauthar seems to share a lot of the morals of radical islamists and islamofascists, I think his disagreements with them are mostly over minor details and semantics at this point.

Nope. I don't support killing all non believers, i don't support oppressing women or killing sodomites either.

Not all, but out of curiosity, how many?

[The Kievan People]

And Leviticus is the only bit that goes on about Homosexuality being a sin.

Noep.

[Kauthar]

Nope. I don't support killing all non believers, i don't support oppressing women or killing sodomites either.

Not all, but out of curiosity, how many?

How many what. I don't support killing any of them unless they've commit a crime worthy of death.

[Agritum]

And Leviticus is the only bit that goes on about Homosexuality being a sin.

Noep.

... at least don't link to a site that attempts to confute said statement's interpretation.

[The Kievan People]

Since it is the Skeptic's Annotated Bible you can hardly dismiss it is bible-thumper propaganda

[Vassenor]

Well it is going on about how God makes gay people gay, which kind of defeats the "it's a willing sin" bit of the narrative.

[The Kievan People]

Well it is going on about how God makes gay people gay, which kind of defeats the "it's a willing sin" bit of the narrative.

You should probably take this to the Christian thread.

I'll save you some time by saying this understanding of the nature of sin is basically cartoon Christianity.

[Vassenor]

Well it is going on about how God makes gay people gay, which kind of defeats the "it's a willing sin" bit of the narrative.

You should probably take this to the Christian thread.

I'll save you some time by saying this understanding of the nature of sin is basically cartoon Christianity.

Yes, how dare I say that homosexuals should not be treated as subhumans.

[The Nuclear Fist]

You should probably take this to the Christian thread.

I'll save you some time by saying this understanding of the nature of sin is basically cartoon Christianity.

Yes, how dare I say that homosexuals should not be treated as subhumans.

I don't think Kiev is a homophobe, I think he's saying your interpretation of Christian text is wrong and juvenile, and that a debate on the New Testament's take on homosexuality doesn't really belong in a thread about the migrant crisis in Europe.

[The Kievan People]

Yes, how dare I say that homosexuals should not be treated as subhumans.

No, thinking that asking how something can be sinful if god made it is a devastating argument. This is not a contradiction for actual Christians.

[Vassenor]

Pretty sure there's a difference between "this is a contradiction you should probably account for" and "this is a contradiction ergo your entire argument is invalid".

For the record, I was aiming for the former.

[The Kievan People]

Pretty sure there's a difference between "this is a contradiction you should probably account for" and "this is a contradiction ergo your entire argument is invalid".

For the record, I was aiming for the former.

Yes, which is why I said take it to the Christian thread. The actual answers require delving into theology.

[Vassenor]

Either way, Matthew 7. Only God has the right to judge people for how they live their lives and if they have sinned.

[Geilinor]

Yes, how dare I say that homosexuals should not be treated as subhumans.

Yes, interesting how people like you do not stand against muslim radicals beating shit against gays. Yet fixised on Christians not being enough in line with you.

What we're doing is trying to paint you as hypocrites. The right-wing hated gay people until Muslim immigrants came around. In America, it still does.

[Vassenor]

Yes, how dare I say that homosexuals should not be treated as subhumans.

Yes, interesting how people like you do not stand against muslim radicals beating shit against gays. Yet fixised on Christians not being enough in line with you.

Please do not put words in my mouth.

[Vassenor]

What we're doing is trying to paint you as hypocrites. The right-wing hated gay people until Muslim immigrants came around. In America, it still does.

Us as hypocrites? It is you that are making concessions to islamists radicals on expense of personall freedoms.

Now, many right-wingers may not be in favour of gay marriages, it is still far better off than supporting of killing them or banning their right on free speech. Not any right-wing movement supports its, or tried to lynch a gay person as showed in the video.

And if you cannot see the difference between supporting exterminating gay people because they are sodomites according to your muslims, and not wantin gay marriages. Than frankly it is not my or our problem because you guys have a twisted view of world. At least you should stop defending the muslim radicals.

You assume that supporting the right of people to come here means we support them doing things like that. We do not.

[Geilinor]

What we're doing is trying to paint you as hypocrites. The right-wing hated gay people until Muslim immigrants came around. In America, it still does.

Us as hypocrites? It is you that are making concessions to islamists radicals on expense of personall freedoms.

Now, many right-wingers may not be in favour of gay marriages, it is still far better off than supporting of killing them or banning their right on free speech. Not any right-wing movement supports its, or tried to lynch a gay person as showed in the video.

And if you cannot see the difference between supporting exterminating gay people because they are sodomites according to your muslims, and not wantin gay marriages. Than frankly it is not my or our problem because you guys have a twisted view of world. At least you should stop defending the muslim radicals.

I don't support making any concessions. I want real personal freedoms.

And my Muslims? What do you mean by that?