What the F@%!

[Conserative Morality]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

Wrong.The FCC is supposed to provide communication without discrimination, and that includes race, religion, and several other things, but not age.

Try again.

[The Parkus Empire]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

The FCC doesn't have any business censoring communication one has to pay to get; I don't care what they're "supposed" to do.

[Katganistan]

Except that the Senate and the House developed that way, as any third grader knows, to give more equal representation to smaller, less populous states -- not to split up duties that already exist. And the Senate and the House have far more duties than to decide what is proper vis a vis broadcast. So yes, comparing the FCC to the Congress is a strawman.

Except that the Senate and the House developed, as anyone with more than a passing knowledge of the founding of our country knows, to balance the power in a unicameral system, and this manifests itself in one of several ways, one being the splitting of duty.

And Kat, learn the definition of a strawman.

A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

Not misrepresentation via example of a subject of debate (Which, may I remind you, I did not), misrepresentation of an opponent's position!

And really? presented no evidence? Not like I quoted the statute that created the FCC or anything, right?
Who's making false statements, now?

It's not like I didn't even mention evidence in that post.

Oh, wait...

Buy your porn. It's not hard to come by or expensive to maintain.

Get over yourself. The morals of many should not dictate the freedom of a few.

Get over yourself. You have the freedom to have it. And the rest of the country has the freedom to be free of it.

[United Dependencies]

In an effort to get straight to the point in this debate I would like to reword the op to say this: Is the FCC censoring television?

[Huntersunited]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

And communism was supposed to help the community as a whole, but that didn't work well, did it?

[Katganistan]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

The FCC doesn't have any business censoring communication one has to pay to get; I don't care what they're "supposed" to do.

We don't pay for broadcasting over the airwaves. That's what they control.
If you pay for satellite or cable, which needs a descrambler to get, you can receive anything. They don't censor it.

[The Parkus Empire]

I don't see why swearing is such a big issue.

Because children obviously don't know what "fuck" means. [/sarcasm]

[Conserative Morality]

Get over yourself. You have the freedom to have it. And the rest of the country has the freedom to be free of it.

They do not have the freedom to censor whatever they don't like. Unless, of course, suddenly the right of eliminating that which you do not like during certain hours is recently enacted right. Protesters for gay rights are now only allowed on public streets after ten, after all, they scare the children.

[Huntersunited]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

The FCC doesn't have any business censoring communication one has to pay to get; I don't care what they're "supposed" to do.

We don't pay for broadcasting over the airwaves. That's what they control.
If you pay for satellite or cable, which needs a descrambler to get, you can receive anything. They don't censor it.

Not true, I get satellite but they still censor FOX.

[The Parkus Empire]

We don't pay for broadcasting over the airwaves. That's what they control.
If you pay for satellite or cable, which needs a descrambler to get, you can receive anything. They don't censor it.

One has to pay for a T.V., though, and watch commercials.

[United Dependencies]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

The FCC doesn't have any business censoring communication one has to pay to get; I don't care what they're "supposed" to do.

We don't pay for broadcasting over the airwaves. That's what they control.
If you pay for satellite or cable, which needs a descrambler to get, you can receive anything. They don't censor it.

Not true, I get satellite but they still censor FOX.

Fox censors Fox.

[Conserative Morality]

One has to pay for a T.V., though.

TV is a right for parents.

[United Dependencies]

One has to pay for a T.V., though.

TV is a right for parents.

[Conserative Morality]

It was a joke.

[Flameswroth]

All it is is a stronger word that you can use to express your opinion. For example, "I am so fucking happy right now!" does that sound negative to you? mIt's alot more effective than saying, " I am really happy right now!" And if you put it the other way, " I fucking hate exams" sounds stronger than 'I hate exams."

To me it seems like a lazy man's "stronger word". For instance, you could say, "I am so incredibly happy right now." or "I am so amazingly happy right now" or in the other case "I really hate exams", "I despise exams", "I loathe exams", etc.

Besides, when a swear word functions as a 'sentence enhancer' (thanks, Spongebob) because of its offensive nature, not in spite of it. When you say "That was a fucking good hotdog", people are momentarily struck by the fact that you feel strongly enough to swear about it, while other words actually exist for the purpose of escalating the strength of a statement.

Yet none are as strong as "Fuck". You know why? Because that's why society dislikes those words, because there just strong words and apparently society doesn't want you to feel strong enough to use those words.

And I will reaffirm: there is no inherent strength in the word "fuck". It's 'strength' is derived from it being taboo, instilling shock when used in an enhancing capacity.

So like I said, it's the lazy man's sentence enhancer. It's a top-of-mind, off the cuff adjective/adverb/noun/verb/whatever that people fall back on when they're trying to sound enthusiastic without any effort.*

*DISCLAIMER: this is not to insinuate that those who use swear words are inherently less thoughtful either, as that has been a separate topic previously discussed on the forum. However, it is meant to simply display the nature of swear words, explicitly "fuck", as sources of sentence augmentation in comparison with other, less offensive and more pertinent words.

[United Dependencies]

It was a joke.

Oh. Then I change that smiley to this one

[Huntersunited]

Think of it like this, do the kids pay for T.V.? No, so shouldn't it be more centered to adults?

[United Dependencies]

Think of it like this, do the kids pay for T.V.? No, so shouldn't it be more centered to adults?

A little late for that now.

[The Parkus Empire]

And I will reaffirm: there is no inherent strength in the word "fuck". It's 'strength' is derived from it being taboo, instilling shock when used in an enhancing capacity.

*insert Quentin Tarentino joke*

[Huntersunited]

All it is is a stronger word that you can use to express your opinion. For example, "I am so fucking happy right now!" does that sound negative to you? mIt's alot more effective than saying, " I am really happy right now!" And if you put it the other way, " I fucking hate exams" sounds stronger than 'I hate exams."

To me it seems like a lazy man's "stronger word". For instance, you could say, "I am so incredibly happy right now." or "I am so amazingly happy right now" or in the other case "I really hate exams", "I despise exams", "I loathe exams", etc.

Besides, when a swear word functions as a 'sentence enhancer' (thanks, Spongebob) because of its offensive nature, not in spite of it. When you say "That was a fucking good hotdog", people are momentarily struck by the fact that you feel strongly enough to swear about it, while other words actually exist for the purpose of escalating the strength of a statement.

Yet none are as strong as "Fuck". You know why? Because that's why society dislikes those words, because there just strong words and apparently society doesn't want you to feel strong enough to use those words.

And I will reaffirm: there is no inherent strength in the word "fuck". It's 'strength' is derived from it being taboo, instilling shock when used in an enhancing capacity.

So like I said, it's the lazy man's sentence enhancer. It's a top-of-mind, off the cuff adjective/adverb/noun/verb/whatever that people fall back on when they're trying to sound enthusiastic without any effort.*

*DISCLAIMER: this is not to insinuate that those who use swear words are inherently less thoughtful either, as that has been a separate topic previously discussed on the forum. However, it is meant to simply display the nature of swear words, explicitly "fuck", as sources of sentence augmentation in comparison with other, less offensive and more pertinent words.

Let me ask you something then, what gives those other words power? In fact, what gives a word power? And whose to say whats a bad word? Can I suddenly say "dang" is a cuse word because it sounds like "Damn"? A word gets its power from society, so Fuck isn't a strong word because it's taboo, it's a taboo because it's a stronge word.

[Linux and the X]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

And they will. That communication will include swearing.

If you pay for satellite or cable, which needs a descrambler to get, you can receive anything. They don't censor it.

But why should a descrambler be required, if a station wishes to provide unscrambled content?

[United Dependencies]

All it is is a stronger word that you can use to express your opinion. For example, "I am so fucking happy right now!" does that sound negative to you? mIt's alot more effective than saying, " I am really happy right now!" And if you put it the other way, " I fucking hate exams" sounds stronger than 'I hate exams."

To me it seems like a lazy man's "stronger word". For instance, you could say, "I am so incredibly happy right now." or "I am so amazingly happy right now" or in the other case "I really hate exams", "I despise exams", "I loathe exams", etc.

Besides, when a swear word functions as a 'sentence enhancer' (thanks, Spongebob) because of its offensive nature, not in spite of it. When you say "That was a fucking good hotdog", people are momentarily struck by the fact that you feel strongly enough to swear about it, while other words actually exist for the purpose of escalating the strength of a statement.

Yet none are as strong as "Fuck". You know why? Because that's why society dislikes those words, because there just strong words and apparently society doesn't want you to feel strong enough to use those words.

And I will reaffirm: there is no inherent strength in the word "fuck". It's 'strength' is derived from it being taboo, instilling shock when used in an enhancing capacity.

So like I said, it's the lazy man's sentence enhancer. It's a top-of-mind, off the cuff adjective/adverb/noun/verb/whatever that people fall back on when they're trying to sound enthusiastic without any effort.*

*DISCLAIMER: this is not to insinuate that those who use swear words are inherently less thoughtful either, as that has been a separate topic previously discussed on the forum. However, it is meant to simply display the nature of swear words, explicitly "fuck", as sources of sentence augmentation in comparison with other, less offensive and more pertinent words.

Let me ask you something then, what gives those other words power? In fact, what gives a word power? And whose to say whats a bad word? Can I suddenly say "dang" is a cuse word because it sounds like "Damn"? A word gets its power from society, so Fuck isn't a strong word because it's taboo, it's a taboo because it's a stronge word.

Are you suggesting that all strong words are taboo?

[Huntersunited]

All it is is a stronger word that you can use to express your opinion. For example, "I am so fucking happy right now!" does that sound negative to you? mIt's alot more effective than saying, " I am really happy right now!" And if you put it the other way, " I fucking hate exams" sounds stronger than 'I hate exams."

To me it seems like a lazy man's "stronger word". For instance, you could say, "I am so incredibly happy right now." or "I am so amazingly happy right now" or in the other case "I really hate exams", "I despise exams", "I loathe exams", etc.

Besides, when a swear word functions as a 'sentence enhancer' (thanks, Spongebob) because of its offensive nature, not in spite of it. When you say "That was a fucking good hotdog", people are momentarily struck by the fact that you feel strongly enough to swear about it, while other words actually exist for the purpose of escalating the strength of a statement.

Yet none are as strong as "Fuck". You know why? Because that's why society dislikes those words, because there just strong words and apparently society doesn't want you to feel strong enough to use those words.

And I will reaffirm: there is no inherent strength in the word "fuck". It's 'strength' is derived from it being taboo, instilling shock when used in an enhancing capacity.

So like I said, it's the lazy man's sentence enhancer. It's a top-of-mind, off the cuff adjective/adverb/noun/verb/whatever that people fall back on when they're trying to sound enthusiastic without any effort.*

*DISCLAIMER: this is not to insinuate that those who use swear words are inherently less thoughtful either, as that has been a separate topic previously discussed on the forum. However, it is meant to simply display the nature of swear words, explicitly "fuck", as sources of sentence augmentation in comparison with other, less offensive and more pertinent words.

Let me ask you something then, what gives those other words power? In fact, what gives a word power? And whose to say whats a bad word? Can I suddenly say "dang" is a cuse word because it sounds like "Damn"? A word gets its power from society, so Fuck isn't a strong word because it's taboo, it's a taboo because it's a stronge word.

Are you suggesting that all strong words are taboo?

NO, I'm suggesting the strongest words are taboo, because they are strong.

[Katganistan]

In an effort to get straight to the point in this debate I would like to reword the op to say this: Is the FCC censoring television?

Only in the sense that they can fine over-the-air free stations for broadcasting certain things (such as porn) at any time, or raw language if it's judged to be indecent.
Google SNL "Nude Beach" (The Penis Song) to see.<-- Briadcast in 1988.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072562/trivia <-- lots of uses of the word fuck on over-the-air-broadcast

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/f-word.asp <-- FCC does not maintain a list of words you can't say.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a ... 3045A1.pdf <--FCC ruling on what it does and does not rule on.


So again: go buy your porn. Your language argument is moot. You might want to blame network censors instead.

[Katganistan]

The FCC is supposed to provide communication suitable for everyone without discrimination, and that includes kids.

Next?

And communism was supposed to help the community as a whole, but that didn't work well, did it?

Ok, so you don't have an argument. Are you going to Godwin us next? Did the Nazis ban porn too?