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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:45 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Dewhurst-Narculis wrote:No such thing as a soul, machines have "soul", animals (humans included) do not


The Bible says there are souls.

So?

Time Cube says there are four days in one, and since you are a literalist...it must be true right?
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Postby Rastynhaven » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:46 pm

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Rastynhaven wrote:As a Buddhist, I do not believe in the existence of souls.

And yes, humans are animals according to the scientific definition of animals being multicelluar, eukaryotic organisms who are heterotrophic (requires organic food) and lack cell walls.

Woah, buddhism and atheism just connected in harmony: SCIENCE!!!!!


Well technically Buddhism teaches that humans are separate and spiritually above animals :p , -BUT- seeing as science considers humans to be animals, we make of that what we will.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:46 pm

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The Bible says there are souls.

Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The GAmeTopians wrote:Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.

Explain how there are trees older than the flood of Gilgamesh then?
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Postby Rastynhaven » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

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The GAmeTopians wrote:Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.


They could say the same about yours.
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Postby Kratu » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The GAmeTopians wrote:Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.

So what of Christians who say that humans are animals and all animals possess a soul?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

Humans are animals. Animals do not have souls.
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Postby Ashihara no Nakatsukuni » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

A soul is just the theological version of life, meaning a way to describe the ability to be alive. Animals are alive, so yes they do have souls.
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Postby Dewhurst-Narculis » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The GAmeTopians wrote:Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.


Huge statement to make as I assume most make the same ruling on yours so who do we believe is correct?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

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The GAmeTopians wrote:Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.

You got proof of that?
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The GAmeTopians wrote:Is the bible correct though? 50+ Religions say no.


The other religions are just impostors.

I could say the same of christianity. So could roughly 60% of the world.
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Postby Kincoboh » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

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Kincoboh wrote:No detection of such a thing like a soul that the Abrahamic faiths predict, literally anyway.

Given its a spiritual concept it would kind of be hard to detect in the first place :P.

If it is metaphorical, is it still a helpful term? How do we find out whether if only humans have souls, or if everything has a soul, or somewhere in between?
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Postby Olerand » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Of course we are animals, we are mammals. No one has a soul on the other hand.
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Postby Donut section » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Humans are animals.

And it doesn't matter if they have souls.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Merizoc wrote:Humans are animals. Animals do not have souls.

The Japanese thought candles did...so your argument is invalid.

:p
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:49 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The other religions are just impostors.

You got proof of that?


I mean it's kind of impressive he says that given Islam and Judaism are sister religions with Christianity.

We just are a big, disfunctional family.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:49 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The other religions are just impostors.

You got proof of that?

T-H-E K-I-N-G J-A-M-E-S B-I-B-L-E.

Is the only proof they have limited their minds to accept.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:You got proof of that?


I mean it's kind of impressive he says that given Islam and Judaism are sister religions with Christianity.

We just are a big, disfunctional family.

I swear its kind of hard to given Pat Robertson credit where its due, but the man does make valid points when it comes to beating Ken Ham.
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Postby Ashihara no Nakatsukuni » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:You got proof of that?


I mean it's kind of impressive he says that given Islam and Judaism are sister religions with Christianity.

We just are a big, disfunctional family.

It's funny that he says it period. Christianity has so much scripture half of it contradicts itself, thus why there are so many schisms. What he meant to say was my specific deviation of Christianity is the truth, and everything else is false.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:You got proof of that?

T-H-E K-I-N-G J-A-M-E-S B-I-B-L-E.

Is the only proof they have limited their minds to accept.

Hell, folks like A&B don't even accept that, really. A Biblical Literalist's reading of The Bible is practically heresy.
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Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:You got proof of that?

T-H-E K-I-N-G J-A-M-E-S B-I-B-L-E.

Is the only proof they have limited their minds to accept.


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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Humans are animals. Animals do not have souls.

The Japanese thought candles did...so your argument is invalid.

:p

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:52 pm

Benuty wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The other religions are just impostors.

Explain how there are trees older than the flood of Gilgamesh then?


The trees grew multiple rings annually.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:53 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Benuty wrote:Explain how there are trees older than the flood of Gilgamesh then?


The trees grew multiple rings annually.

Yet didn't everything on land die during the flood you believe happened?
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Postby Olerand » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:53 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Benuty wrote:Explain how there are trees older than the flood of Gilgamesh then?


The trees grew multiple rings annually.

Surely satire.
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