Ferguson Megathread

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I had another response here, but I don't want to speak for Gauthier, so I edited it. I will say that I believe that you may have missed the tone of the post.

Sarcasm detectors are finicky and difficult to calibrate.

My suspicion was that it wasn't so much sarcasm as exaggeration to make a point, but again, I won't speak for Gauthier.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Sarcasm detectors are finicky and difficult to calibrate.

My suspicion was that it wasn't so much sarcasm as exaggeration to make a point, but again, I won't speak for Gauthier.

I consider that sort of exaggeration to be a form of sarcasm.

[Malavya]

I stand behind Giuliani.

[Tsaraine]

Looks like the star witness' testimony has been, too late, turned to Swiss cheese.

What do you mean too late? McCulloch knew about it.

He chose to present witnesses he knew, or strongly suspected, were lying anyway, because remember he wanted the Grand Jury to be 'fair'.

But remember kids, any suggestions that our judicial system could be flawed or biased in any way is just an excuse people use to avoid talking about the black culture of crime and violence.

Well, that's wonderful. I'm not up on the legal stuffs, I know people can't be tried for the same stuff twice, but is there any way in which a grand jury can be invalidated for egregious fuckups and get a do-over? Because it's looking a lot like this thing is an egregious fuckup. I'm hoping that the DOJ investigation won't end up being an egregious fuckup, whatever conclusion it comes to, but egregious fuckuppery seems to be contagious where this case is concerned.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What do you mean too late? McCulloch knew about it.

He chose to present witnesses he knew, or strongly suspected, were lying anyway, because remember he wanted the Grand Jury to be 'fair'.

But remember kids, any suggestions that our judicial system could be flawed or biased in any way is just an excuse people use to avoid talking about the black culture of crime and violence.

Well, that's wonderful. I'm not up on the legal stuffs, I know people can't be tried for the same stuff twice, but is there any way in which a grand jury can be invalidated for egregious fuckups and get a do-over? Because it's looking a lot like this thing is an egregious fuckup. I'm hoping that the DOJ investigation won't end up being an egregious fuckup, whatever conclusion it comes to, but egregious fuckuppery seems to be contagious where this case is concerned.

I believe that since the case never went to trial, double jeopardy wouldn't apply. However, I could be wrong, and will happily bow to those with greater legal knowledge than my own.

[Ashmoria]

Well, that's wonderful. I'm not up on the legal stuffs, I know people can't be tried for the same stuff twice, but is there any way in which a grand jury can be invalidated for egregious fuckups and get a do-over? Because it's looking a lot like this thing is an egregious fuckup. I'm hoping that the DOJ investigation won't end up being an egregious fuckup, whatever conclusion it comes to, but egregious fuckuppery seems to be contagious where this case is concerned.

I believe that since the case never went to trial, double jeopardy wouldn't apply. However, I could be wrong, and will happily bow to those with greater legal knowledge than my own.

I am confident in saying that there is no double jeopardy.

and equally confident that the Missouri bar wont be investigating mcculloch for suborning perjury--putting a person on the stand who you know is going to lie is illegal.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I believe that since the case never went to trial, double jeopardy wouldn't apply. However, I could be wrong, and will happily bow to those with greater legal knowledge than my own.

I am confident in saying that there is no double jeopardy.

and equally confident that the Missouri bar wont be investigating mcculloch for suborning perjury--putting a person on the stand who you know is going to lie is illegal.

Yeah, once I remembered the phrase from endless Law & Order marathons, I looked it up, and that's almost certainly what he did...and he'll almost certainly get away with it, too.

[Ashmoria]

I am confident in saying that there is no double jeopardy.

and equally confident that the Missouri bar wont be investigating mcculloch for suborning perjury--putting a person on the stand who you know is going to lie is illegal.

Yeah, once I remembered the phrase from endless Law & Order marathons, I looked it up, and that's almost certainly what he did...and he'll almost certainly get away with it, too.

it is so illegal, unethical, corrupt, etc that it is chilling to know that there is no chance that he will have to pay for it. he'll probably end up as governor of Missouri for the way he handled this case.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yeah, once I remembered the phrase from endless Law & Order marathons, I looked it up, and that's almost certainly what he did...and he'll almost certainly get away with it, too.

it is so illegal, unethical, corrupt, etc that it is chilling to know that there is no chance that he will have to pay for it. he'll probably end up as governor of Missouri for the way he handled this case.

Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthy commies niggers thugs.

[Ashmoria]

it is so illegal, unethical, corrupt, etc that it is chilling to know that there is no chance that he will have to pay for it. he'll probably end up as governor of Missouri for the way he handled this case.

Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthy commies niggers thugs.

well we sure don't want our African American citizens getting uppity now, do we. what if they get the idea that they have the same rights and worth as the rest of us?

[Des-Bal]

Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthy commies niggers thugs.

Accusations of racism are great because they don't need to be steeped in reality.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yes, well, it was all in the name of defending our boys in blue, and what D.A. is going to want to take him on for that? He'll be a poor man's Oliver North, doing what was necessary to save the police from those filthy commies niggers thugs.

Accusations of racism are great because they don't need to be steeped in reality.

Nor, it seems, does the testimony of witnesses.

[Toronina]

It just seems the whole Grand Jury was trying to get him off, not caring if he was guilty or not

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It just seems the whole Grand Jury was trying to get him off, not caring if he was guilty or not

I don't know about the Grand Jury, but it's blatantly obvious that the prosecutor had an enormous conflict of interest in this case, and that he did everything that he could to keep the Grand Jury from indicting the officer for anything at all.

[Ravenflight]

As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson

[Ravenflight]

Umm guys you might want to see whats happening on the ground so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE_Wq67cGrE

[-Ebola-]

As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson

Now I know why everyone has forgotten about me and decided to worry about police officers instead....

Stay classy, Missouri.

[Xerusia]

As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson

Now I know why everyone has forgotten about me and decided to worry about police officers instead....

Stay classy, Missouri.

Rest in pasta ebola

[Greed and Death]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/2 ... k%20Voices


Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.

That is a surprise.

[Sebastianbourg]

As Jester would say, "Tango Down" http://www.channel4.com/news/police-sho ... y-ferguson

Now I know why everyone has forgotten about me and decided to worry about police officers instead....

Stay classy, Missouri.

You're still around?

[Big Jim P]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices


Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.

That is a surprise.

Astonishing.

[Fireye]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices


Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.

That is a surprise.

Why do shit like this?

Do they realize they're hurting their cause?

[Liriena]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices


Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.

That is a surprise.

If true, then this guy is remarkably despicable and dishonest, using a perfectly positive sentiment when in the spotlight, then betraying it when nobody is looking.

[Gauthier]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/28/joshua-williams-charged-arson_n_6386694.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices


Wow. Protester who called fr peaceful demonstration is now being charged with arson.

That is a surprise.

If true, then this guy is remarkably despicable and dishonest, using a perfectly positive sentiment when in the spotlight, then betraying it when nobody is looking.

Naturally, pro-cop activists will insist he's the Pope of the protest movements.

[Liriena]

If true, then this guy is remarkably despicable and dishonest, using a perfectly positive sentiment when in the spotlight, then betraying it when nobody is looking.

Naturally, pro-cop activists will insist he's the Pope of the protest movements.