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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:02 pm

Alliir wrote:Guys, I'm white. This was a representation of my point, pertaining to a certain "Does God Exist" thread. It didn't work out as planned.


Typical white devil trickery.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:03 pm

Alliir wrote:
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What did you think was going to happen?


Well, I hhad the mindset of, "If asking politely doesn't work, and reporting doesn't work, go full-idiot and it just might work". It sorta did, I suppose. But not as I'd hoped. I was sort of wishing that the mods might see this, and for some odd reason actually see what I was saying.


Wut? :blink:
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Postby Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:03 pm

Alliir wrote:So, I'm black, and I don't like white people. I used to be friends with a few, but then I learned more about their past, and I grew away from them. Their roots are buried in slavery and war. I was rather sad for a while, but then I embraced my being black, and when I did, it offered me an opportunity to see the world as I'd never seen it. Because I'm black, I have been more open to new information, and have learned a lot about science and philosophy and history.
I have realized that white people have caused some of, if not THE most problems in modern day society. And so I want to hear everybody's opinions.

Note, I don't represent all black people. I'm just a rather irritated one.

EDIT: I see we aren't going to be best friends because of my skin color. Duly noted. Just throwing this out there, though: other people aren't responsible for an individual's mistakes, meaning that because some whites enslaved blacks at a certain point of time doesn't mean that all whites across history or the so-called white race is collectively to blame for the deeds of the few. To add, anti-white racism is still racism and it's as undesirable to me as anti-black racism.

Alliir wrote:Guys, I'm white. This was a representation of my point, pertaining to a certain "Does God Exist" thread. It didn't work out as planned.

Oh.
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Postby The United States of North Amerigo » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:04 pm

Yes it is regardless of pasts, enforcing racism on another race even though they have a terrible past is wrong. We live in the 21st Century not the 19th, The past of white people does not give anyone a right to discriminate.

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Postby Mefpan » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:04 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
Alliir wrote:Guys, I'm white. This was a representation of my point, pertaining to a certain "Does God Exist" thread. It didn't work out as planned.


Why did you have to pretend to be a black guy, why not just not do the thread?

My theory would be "Let's see if people complain about it when a self-proclaimed non-Caucasian makes dickish remarks about other ethnic groups!"
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Postby Arztozkaa » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:04 pm

Alliir wrote:So, I'm black, and I don't like white people. I used to be friends with a few, but then I learned more about their past, and I grew away from them. Their roots are buried in slavery and war. I was rather sad for a while, but then I embraced my being black, and when I did, it offered me an opportunity to see the world as I'd never seen it. Because I'm black, I have been more open to new information, and have learned a lot about science and philosophy and history.
I have realized that white people have caused some of, if not THE most problems in modern day society. And so I want to hear everybody's opinions.

Note, I don't represent all black people. I'm just a rather irritated one.



You do realize that white people in the past did that there is a difference between white people now and white people then blaming us for all your problems is an ignorant statement and shows low tolerance towards other races. Not trying to be a hater just pointing out.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:05 pm

Mefpan wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
Why did you have to pretend to be a black guy, why not just not do the thread?

My theory would be "Let's see if people complain about it when a self-proclaimed non-Caucasian makes dickish remarks about other ethnic groups!"


You and me both

FYI, someone should report this thread, it is pointless.
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Postby Bolnoa » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:05 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
Alliir wrote:Guys, I'm white. This was a representation of my point, pertaining to a certain "Does God Exist" thread. It didn't work out as planned.


Why did you have to pretend to be a black guy, why not just not do the thread?

Fuck you for pretending to be a black guy to troll on us.

I'm gonna have to side with this a lot.
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Postby Alliir » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:05 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Alliir wrote:
Well, I hhad the mindset of, "If asking politely doesn't work, and reporting doesn't work, go full-idiot and it just might work". It sorta did, I suppose. But not as I'd hoped. I was sort of wishing that the mods might see this, and for some odd reason actually see what I was saying.


Wut? :blink:


"Dangit, asking people in the thread about it failed, asking the mods to edit it failed, let's just go full-stupid and mock it."
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:06 pm

Mefpan wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
Why did you have to pretend to be a black guy, why not just not do the thread?

My theory would be "Let's see if people complain about it when a self-proclaimed non-Caucasian makes dickish remarks about other ethnic groups!"


And what did you expect? That they wouldn't?
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Postby Port Victor » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:06 pm

Cymrea wrote:Every human culture on Earth has a history of war and violence, including African ethnicities. Consider the conflicts all across the continent and you can clearly see that Africa is not immune to violent conflict of its own.

Basing your distaste for white people in this rationale is fatally flawed and hypocritical.


However, true Africa is not immune to violence

1. Before beefing introduce to the European and Asians, fights were rare and not bloody. In most places to kill was a severe crime in battle. In Southern Africa those doing war looked to see who could throw the spear farther. The goal was to settle conflict without killing.

2. Real bloody and continuous conflict did not appear in most history until the 1500's when the Islamic Empire and the Portuguese came.
- The Islamic Empire killed many in battles to get converts
- The Portuguese asked for slaves and cause us, the Africans, to attack each other for profit that had not excised before

3. Of course racism is bad

4. I completely agree that not all black people hate white people and visa Versa. But over the course of time there has been much misery because of white people like

- World War I
-World War II
-Crimean War
-Russo-Japanese War

Oh and let's not forget the Andrew Johnson, worst man ever to live who killed over 17 million of some my ancestors the Native Americans, based on there race.

5. Note I am 15% Scottish.

So to conclude, no not all Caucasians are racist or bad, but their ethnic group have shown through history much racism and destruction.

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Postby Hanchu » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:06 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Alliir wrote:Guys, I'm white. This was a representation of my point, pertaining to a certain "Does God Exist" thread. It didn't work out as planned.


Typical white devil trickery.

Great now I'm ashamed for being white .

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Postby Herargon » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:07 pm

Racism is especially seen as bad in Western countries. Most other countries should see it as that, too. Because racism is judging someone on his/her ethnicity or skin color and such, which is blatant bullshit I have no time for.
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Postby Kumuri » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:07 pm

Bolnoa wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
Why did you have to pretend to be a black guy, why not just not do the thread?

Fuck you for pretending to be a black guy to troll on us.

I'm gonna have to side with this a lot.

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Postby Mefpan » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:08 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Mefpan wrote:My theory would be "Let's see if people complain about it when a self-proclaimed non-Caucasian makes dickish remarks about other ethnic groups!"


And what did you expect? That they wouldn't?

cough
not the OP

But no, it was pretty damn obvious that the vastest majority would object most vehemently regardless of who it is that is a racist douchebag.
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Postby Hakio » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:08 pm

Kumuri wrote:
Bolnoa wrote:I'm gonna have to side with this a lot.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:08 pm

Alliir wrote:So, I'm black, and I don't like white people. I used to be friends with a few, but then I learned more about their past, and I grew away from them. Their roots are buried in slavery and war. I was rather sad for a while, but then I embraced my being black, and when I did, it offered me an opportunity to see the world as I'd never seen it. Because I'm black, I have been more open to new information, and have learned a lot about science and philosophy and history.
I have realized that white people have caused some of, if not THE most problems in modern day society. And so I want to hear everybody's opinions.

Note, I don't represent all black people. I'm just a rather irritated one.

The roots of black Africans aren't buried in slavery and war? A bit of history goes a long way.

I'm a descendant of recent immigrants all across the board here; I'm an American who has 4/8 great-grandparents having not been here before the turn of the 19th/20th century, and their histories are all buried in war. My Japanese ancestors have their history buried in oppression and war, same with my Italian ancestors, same with my Western European ancestors.

You make a mistake splitting the world into black and white. While race and racism are still important issues that need to be addressed, most white people in the modern day are no more culpable for the monstrous actions of their ancestors than any modern Russian is responsible for the Holodomor. While there are people alive even today who have participated in such oppression, and people who still benefit from it and try to perpetuate the values that come from it, that's not a reason to treat people as anything less than individuals - target those who perpetuate oppression today, not those who share a phenotype or a grandfather with the oppressors of the last generation.
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Postby Herargon » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:09 pm

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Please stay on topic.
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Postby Zaldakki » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:09 pm

Uhh. Racism is something pretty much everyone across the spectrum agrees is bad.

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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:09 pm

Mefpan wrote:
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And what did you expect? That they wouldn't?

cough
not the OP

But no, it was pretty damn obvious that the vastest majority would object most vehemently regardless of who it is that is a racist douchebag.


Whoops, sorry. I mistook you for someone else. This whole thread is a bit confusing.
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Postby Caltarania » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:10 pm

Pandeeria wrote:Racism is almost as good as eating babies.


Babies are tasty, though :(



How ironic that this thread came about as I was arguing with someone over skype about the BNP...

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Postby Herargon » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Alliir wrote:So, I'm black, and I don't like white people. I used to be friends with a few, but then I learned more about their past, and I grew away from them. Their roots are buried in slavery and war. I was rather sad for a while, but then I embraced my being black, and when I did, it offered me an opportunity to see the world as I'd never seen it. Because I'm black, I have been more open to new information, and have learned a lot about science and philosophy and history.
I have realized that white people have caused some of, if not THE most problems in modern day society. And so I want to hear everybody's opinions.

Note, I don't represent all black people. I'm just a rather irritated one.

The roots of black Africans aren't buried in slavery and war? A bit of history goes a long way.

I'm a descendant of recent immigrants all across the board here; I'm an American who has 4/8 great-grandparents having not been here before the turn of the 19th/20th century, and their histories are all buried in war. My Japanese ancestors have their history buried in oppression and war, same with my Italian ancestors, same with my Western European ancestors.

You make a mistake splitting the world into black and white. While race and racism are still important issues that need to be addressed, most white people in the modern day are no more culpable for the monstrous actions of their ancestors than any modern Russian is responsible for the Holodomor. While there are people alive even today who have participated in such oppression, and people who still benefit from it and try to perpetuate the values that come from it, that's not a reason to treat people as anything less than individuals - target those who perpetuate oppression today, not those who share a phenotype or a grandfather with the oppressors of the last generation.



In short, you're saying; '' Don't judge someone, just because his grandfather or ancestors did something bad. ''
That's what I assume - and I agree with it.
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Postby Esternial » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:13 pm

So you broke with your friends because their ancestors had some kind of involvement in slavery?

Wow.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:13 pm

Port Victor wrote:However, true Africa is not immune to violence

1. Before beefing introduce to the European and Asians, fights were rare and not bloody. In most places to kill was a severe crime in battle. In Southern Africa those doing war looked to see who could throw the spear farther. The goal was to settle conflict without killing.

2. Real bloody and continuous conflict did not appear in most history until the 1500's when the Islamic Empire and the Portuguese came.
- The Islamic Empire killed many in battles to get converts
- The Portuguese asked for slaves and cause us, the Africans, to attack each other for profit that had not excised before

Are you really that unfamiliar with the history of the Tuaregs, the Ethiopians, the Somalians; Axum, Mali, Borno... Jesus, there are plenty of examples of brutal and bloody battle in Africa before the 16th century. And you really blame this on the Portugeuse? The early slave trade was a relatively minor affair. Shit, the Portugeuse assisted Ethiopia in fighting Muslim invaders. This is more the fault of European colonizers as a whole.

Also, there is no 'Islamic Empire'. There are a number of Islamic states that fought with African kingdoms in the 16th century, but many of those African kingdoms were, themselves, Muslim.
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Postby Alliir » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:14 pm

Esternial wrote:So you broke with your friends because their ancestors had some kind of involvement in slavery?

Wow.


No, I'm white. This was a protest. People took it seriously.
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