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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:46 pm

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Why do you post on such a formal, ICish format? This is OOC.

Because he's a duke.


It's perplexing, but mostly pissing me off that he posts in such a format.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:47 pm

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Dragomerian Islands wrote:Yes, In fact I believe that Germany should look like this:
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Dear Dragomerian Islands,

I believe our Reich should look like this;

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I do not want our nation to have to deal with minorities hostile to German rule in Italy, Denmark and in the former Austro-Hungarian territories.

Cordially and respectfully,

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Postby Devera » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:47 pm

While I am a huge pro-Germany guy, this literally could not happen, on a scale beyond this, you could argue that Norway/Sweden should own all of Scandinavia, and Russia since they settled that area. The world today simply couldn't handle something like that, and it would probably lead to an immense amount of civil wars due to the fact the area Germany had claims two now belongs to nations occupied by mainly none Germans.

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Postby Alyakia » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:47 pm

Britanania wrote:I might be wrong, but wasn't Germany trying to gain its former territory a catalyst for the bloodiest (and costliest) conflict in history?


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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:48 pm

Yes, God bless Germany, could put much better use to than the Polish, And everyone complains about RUssia, so no one will mind if Konigsburg goes back to Germany, Then ELsass Lotherigen would be nice, Cause Fuck France.

This is of course Illogical ,but a Germophile can dream.
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Postby Dragomerian Islands » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:48 pm

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Dragomerian Islands wrote:Yes, In fact I believe that Germany should look like this:
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How is that at all justifiable?

To reestablish the Holy Roman Empire.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:49 pm

No, "Germany" is Habsburg land, and therefore should be part of Austria.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:49 pm

Obviously Germany shouldve been permanently partitioned to its neighbors after the war.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:49 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because he's a duke.

It's perplexing, but mostly pissing me off that he posts in such a format.

For one of those mythical creatures that dwell under bridges and who we are not supposed to call by their true name, dukey over there is one of the more formal ones. It's all a poorly executed joke, of course. But, this being NationStates General, it's not as if we have anything better to do than to collectively jump on this thread and start humping it like a mangy dog with poor impulse control.
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Postby Shilya » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:50 pm

No, we don't want any kings.
No, we don't want any old territories back.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:50 pm

Ughh, not this bullshit again.

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Postby Herargon » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:50 pm

The Duke of Alpirsbach wrote: Should Germany become the leader of the world once again?! YA! Großdeutschland! Großdeutschland über alles!


It's ''JA!'' not, ''YA'' in German.
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Postby Aiyania » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:50 pm

Osterre wrote:1. Didn't the Kaiser leaves willingly?

2. Your enemies DID bring you down twice

3. No, no more Kaisers!

4. You guys stole those territories as much as everyone else

5. No one is allowed to have African or Asian possessions

6. Did that, twice, 60 million people died because of it.

1. No.

2. ... after France was invaded and "brought down" by Prussia thrice within 60 years.

3. English has the word "emperor" why don't you use it? Oh right, because bugger "the Queen" (i.e. that one old woman without an impact on the world, who gets loads of money confiscated from the people shoved up her backside all the time).

4. So the USA should be dissolved is what you're saying. Don't get me wrong, there isn't even the weak argument of "ethnic Germans living there" these days, so there is absolutely no bloody point in wanting that land back with Germany, I don't get why anyone would want it; it wouldn't even have any interesting industry and such. But be careful with throwing around accusations of "stealing", because firstly, the lands referred to there were mostly either bought by or gifted to Prussia / Saxony, and secondly, if every country gave up the land they "stole", as per your definition, you don't even know what the world map would look like right now.

5. Not even Africans and Asians? Also, several countries still have minor possessions there and / or still act as regional hegemon.

6. Think again if you're not addressing the wrong country, mate.

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Postby Monkeykind » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:51 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because he's a duke.


It's perplexing, but mostly pissing me off that he posts in such a format.

I don't mind it.

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Postby Nervium » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:51 pm

Immoren wrote:Obviously Germany shouldve been permanently partitioned to its neighbors after the war.


Well, seeing the horrific things they did to brave little Belgium, it makes sense we get 30%.

But keep Bavaria please, not that, just... not that.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:52 pm

Let's hand back all the British and French territories in Africa too. Hell, let's rebuild the Ottoman Empire to it's geographical height in the 1600's. Everyone says it's badass, so no one must object to it.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:52 pm

Yes, I would get behind that proposal, a good German superstate to challenge the waves of Americanism.

Or at least trade the Crimea for Königsberg and refound glorious Prussia.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:52 pm

Germany needs to rebuild its military and improve its population.Last year there was more deaths than births in Germany.
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Postby Insaeldor » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:52 pm

Dragomerian Islands wrote:
Insaeldor wrote:How is that at all justifiable?

To reestablish the Holy Roman Empire.

That's no where near the boarders if the Holy Roman Empire silly.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:53 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Ughh, not this bullshit again.

Yup, this bullshit again. Pretty sure this thing keeps going until the moderators enter the equation. This is NationStates General, after all. It's where the slime lives.
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Postby Kingdom of Derita » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:53 pm

What if France got all it territory it had during the Napoleon Empire? That would be great right?

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Postby Spoder » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:53 pm

ololol

And I thought it was the middle of September...
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Postby The Duke of Alpirsbach » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:53 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:No, "Germany" is Habsburg land, and therefore should be part of Austria.

A.E.I.O.U.!


Dear The Two Jerseys,

How dare you insult my nation? The Habsburgs are nothing but scum and they've led many nations into failure and decline in the past, and there is no reason for us to believe they won't do this again in the present.

Cordially and respectfully,

the Duke of Alpirsbach.

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Postby Dragomerian Islands » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:54 pm

Insaeldor wrote:
Dragomerian Islands wrote:To reestablish the Holy Roman Empire.

That's no where near the boarders if the Holy Roman Empire silly.

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I did not say it would be exact, in fact if it was up to me, Germany would possess all Europe, and nations that contained a portion of the original Roman Empire
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