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what do you identify as?

white, non-hispanic
604
68%
hispanic
46
5%
black
49
6%
asian
53
6%
native american
11
1%
mixed
68
8%
other
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7%
 
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Kravanica
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Postby Kravanica » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:35 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:This does come from the guy who claimed that some long Dutch and German words sound like vomiting.

Well, my German teacher in high school described English as though "the speakers were gargling balls in their mouth," so I guess you're even. :p

Gargling balls? I mean, I know English can be one of the hardest languages to learn... But do we really sound like that to others?
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Gandorra (Ancient)
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Postby Gandorra (Ancient) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:40 pm

Meh, I am sure every white man or woman felt this way at some point in their lives that there is a war on white people.

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Yumyumsuppertime
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:41 pm

Gandorra wrote:Meh, I am sure every white man or woman felt this way at some point in their lives that there is a war on white people.


I have never, ever felt this way, at least so far as I can recall. The concept seems ludicrous to me if you're talking about the United States. Can't say in terms of other countries.

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Gandorra (Ancient)
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Postby Gandorra (Ancient) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:43 pm

I was speaking generally, not just the US.

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Grainne Ni Malley
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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:46 pm

Gandorra wrote:Meh, I am sure every white man or woman felt this way at some point in their lives that there is a war on white people.


I, for one, have never felt this way. I think there are biased individuals in every ethnic group. It does not represent a group large enough to constitute a war, and even if it did it would be a war we started. But it isn't a war, so moot point. I still have privilege (for a woman), I'm not dodging mine fields and bullets every day -not even figuratively- and I do not feel like my life is under constant threat even considering the fact that I live in Oakland. These things to me would indicate a war.
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Yumyumsuppertime
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:51 pm

Gandorra wrote:I was speaking generally, not just the US.


Yes, well, if you're talking about all white people, then that includes those in the U.S. That includes me. And, as I stated, I don't believe that I've ever thought such a thing.

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Blakk Metal
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:30 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Hebrew is an intense language, but I wouldn't go that far.

This does come from the guy who claimed that some long Dutch and German words sound like vomiting.

Hilarious considering many English words are like that in speech as well (e.g. 'non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation'), since English is a Germanic language.

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Twilight Imperium
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:57 am

Blakk Metal wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:This does come from the guy who claimed that some long Dutch and German words sound like vomiting.

Hilarious considering many English words are like that in speech as well (e.g. 'non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation'), since English is a Germanic language.


American English is an unholy conglomeration of Germanic, Romance, and other influences.

OT: If there's a war on white people, can I get a veteran's discount at Costco?

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Briwen
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Postby Briwen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:40 am

so if you see the whole world as one and consider how/where all wealth is accumulated and if you watch where all the wars are waged, I think it would be much more reasonable and apropriate to think that there was a war against all black/brown/yellow/pink..etc people.

So it is absolutly delusional to think there wa some kind of war against whites. I only can think of one possibility why people would think that way, they propably felt dicriminated at one point in there life because a "person of color" got soemthing which they thougth belonged to them...(because subconciousnessly they thougth as superior because of the color of their skinn).. but that thougth in itself is discriminating and perveterted....

But i won`t deny that discrimination exists everywhere since all humans are eaual, they all hold the same possibility to discriminate.

Anyway a person wo identifies him or herself through the color of his/her skinn (and constructs some social norm according to their racial believes) is insane and I keep away form those "kinds".

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:30 am

Kravanica wrote:I would most likely be more supportive of a path to citizenship if the border was actually secure. I remember before the crisis Obama gloated like the narcissistic ass he is saying "Oh the border is secure" and "Next they'll want a moat. And they'll want alligators in the moat" (these are his actual words). Yeah, he can go fuck himself. If thousands of illegal immigrants are able to get over then the border isn't secure. The coyotes would never of lured these people if Obama hadn't granted amnesty. The coyotes saw that the US was letting people stay and jumped on it as a way to make some cash.

Let's be real. Both parties have their cunts and both parties block each other likes there's no tomorrow. Harry Reid is basically the king of filibustering. The House tries to defund Obamacare every other weekend. It's a fucking mess and it's basically because they're polar opposites. The Democrats want more social freedom and more government intervention in the economy. The Republicans want less social freedom and less government intervention in the economy. Republicans want deportation and Democrats want amnesty. They'll never agree and stuff only gets done when one party controls the presidency and both houses of Congress.


I've discussed the border protection at length somewhat in other circles and it is something I have to agree with you. Our border security is inadequate; but I also feel that sending more men and throwing money at the border is just healing a symptom of the "disease" in a manner of speech. The real causes are still in the countries where these people come from: Poverty, violence, and families currently separated are an issue which is very crucial. And to me a more effective way to secure the border is both strengthening our own borders and helping Mexico and Central America to stabilize themselves so people do not have to risk their lives to come here. The classic excuse I hear about this is "this is their country, why should we be intervening in their affairs" to which I raise an eyebrow because we haven't been talking shit during the last two greatest interventions of the last decade and we're about to send more troops to Iraq again because of ISIS/ISIL and yet we don't have the dignity to fix our affairs in the countries that are just in our backyard? Really?

Indeed, and it is also a symptom of our times. Republican leaders are trying to appeal to their constituents for re-election. The loudest voice is the fringe radical right, while they have drowned out any productive discourse within the Republican party among more moderate minds. Things do not help when I see my own senators Cruz and Cornyn spewing out the same bullshit line as the Tea Party was doing some time back. It just doesn't make sense to actually have a split house; and in this case I feel both parties should be doing more to come to an agreement. Hell, the plan of 8 was their key to actually show they can work together in immigration reform but no, everybody and their grandmothers were against it. It's a stupid situation.
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Glorious Freedonia
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:32 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
Earth in Roughly 1000 Years wrote:Most people in latin America are not completely European or even predominantly European, to suggest otherwise is simply false.


Race is a category based on physical characteristics, not geographic origin.

Except for Hispanics. Hispanics are people from former Spanish colonies and spaniards.

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Briwen
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Postby Briwen » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:46 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
Race is a category based on physical characteristics, not geographic origin.



Race doesnt exist genetically, it is something simpltons made up, for wahtever reason.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:09 am

Gandorra wrote:I was speaking generally, not just the US.

I've never so much as visited the US and I too have never felt that there was a war against me as a white person.
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Memell
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Postby Memell » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:42 pm

Considering how whites will be a minority in the US by 2060, it seems pretty legit to me. And this "only whites can be racist" nonsense has gone too far already.
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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:45 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
Race is a category based on physical characteristics, not geographic origin.

Except for Hispanics. Hispanics are people from former Spanish colonies and spaniards.

And still, many Argentinians and Uruguayans wouldn't identify themselves as Hispanic.

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:55 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Assless chaps? The name "Lamont", or the name "Lakeisha" is the equivalent of assless chaps?

No, the name "Twatty McFuckface" would be the equivalent of assless chaps, and I can see how an employer would have a legitimate interest in not taking on that sort of distraction, much to the likely dismay of the McFuckface clan. You're comparing apples and...well, assless chaps.

Lamont isn't a problem to me. Lakeisha on the other hand sort of reminds me of someone trying to pass a turd.

What about Bowshequiedalafawndria?

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:41 pm

Memell wrote:Considering how whites will be a minority in the US by 2060, it seems pretty legit to me. And this "only whites can be racist" nonsense has gone too far already.


Whites will still be a plurality. More importantly, though, a shift in demographics is not evidence of a war being waged on anyone.

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Memell
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Postby Memell » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:49 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Memell wrote:Considering how whites will be a minority in the US by 2060, it seems pretty legit to me. And this "only whites can be racist" nonsense has gone too far already.


Whites will still be a plurality. More importantly, though, a shift in demographics is not evidence of a war being waged on anyone.

I believe it's metaphorrical.
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Postby ESTU » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:04 am

The "war on whites" is as silly as the "war on women" in my book. This isn't about some grand conspiracy to get rid of white people, this is about quickly accumulating cheap votes to stay in power, plain and simple. I don't agree with how the administration is handling the problem, but I'd hardly call it a war on whites; just bold political maneuvering.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:33 am

Memell wrote:Considering how whites will be a minority in the US by 2060...

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Postby Calimera II » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
Memell wrote:Considering how whites will be a minority in the US by 2060...

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Thank you for bringing up that graph. I actually laughed quite a bit.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:30 pm

Memell wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Whites will still be a plurality. More importantly, though, a shift in demographics is not evidence of a war being waged on anyone.

I believe it's metaphorrical.


I understand that it's metaphorical. What I'm pointing out is that it's an inaccurate and misleading metaphor that makes white people out to be some sort of endangered species, when we're not.

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Silent Majority
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Postby Silent Majority » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:33 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
Race is a category based on physical characteristics, not geographic origin.

Except for Hispanics. Hispanics are people from former Spanish colonies and spaniards.


Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race. You can be white and hispanic(or black and hispanic etc.) at the the same time.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:33 pm

Gandorra wrote:Meh, I am sure every white man or woman felt this way at some point in their lives that there is a war on white people.


I've never felt that way.

I have felt that there was a war on short people, however.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:09 pm

ESTU wrote:The "war on whites" is as silly as the "war on women" in my book. This isn't about some grand conspiracy to get rid of white people, this is about quickly accumulating cheap votes to stay in power, plain and simple. I don't agree with how the administration is handling the problem, but I'd hardly call it a war on whites; just bold political maneuvering.

It's not really the same thing.... In the political sphere of the USA, the "war on women" has some factual grounding even if the concept itself is a hyperbole of gender inequality. The "war on white people" doesn't exist in the western world, although countries like South Africa are a different story.
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