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Postby Herargon » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:06 pm



''Mr ISIS, I am pissed now and will bomb you into oblivion.'', spoke the leader.

I also heard his response on TV. It was quite pleasant and surprising to see, but I wonder what he means with ''that the world will remember it'' or something like that?
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:07 pm

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''Mr ISIS, I am pissed now and will bomb you into oblivion.'', spoke the leader.

I also heard his response on TV. It was quite pleasant and surprising to see, but I wonder what he means with ''that the world will remember it'' or something like that?


ISIS is so fucking fucked, that the world will think if it as a earthquake.

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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:09 pm

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''Mr ISIS, I am pissed now and will bomb you into oblivion.'', spoke the leader.

I also heard his response on TV. It was quite pleasant and surprising to see, but I wonder what he means with ''that the world will remember it'' or something like that?

The Jordanians didn't shy away from war with Syria, and they sure won't shy away from this. IS will be obliterated by bands of blood-mad Jordanians.
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Postby Absolute Moralia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:17 pm

Has anyone watched the video where that poor Jordanian guy is burned to death? fantastic.
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:24 pm

Absolute Moralia wrote:Has anyone watched the video where that poor Jordanian guy is burned to death? fantastic.

Plenty have. I prefer not to.
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Postby Herargon » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:34 pm

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Absolute Moralia wrote:Has anyone watched the video where that poor Jordanian guy is burned to death? fantastic.

Plenty have. I prefer not to.


Neither did I look. I already have seen another non-ISIL related video.

It was about a man with a splitten head while he was still alive. And that doctor pushed on both sides of his head... shivers
Luckily that half splitten man didn't made it. If that man survived, he would be handicapped and unable to speak, see or even think properly..

How he got his head splitten? Well, he and a friend were jumping from a stone dock. The friend did a summersault and landed safely in the water, but the other poor guy touched the stone and then one thing led to another.
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:38 pm

Herargon wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Plenty have. I prefer not to.


Neither did I look. I already have seen another non-ISIL related video.

It was about a man with a splitten head while he was still alive. And that doctor pushed on both sides of his head... shivers
Luckily that half splitten man didn't made it. If that man survived, he would be handicapped and unable to speak, see or even think properly..

How he got his head splitten? Well, he and a friend were jumping from a stone dock. The friend did a salto and landed safely in the water, but the other poor guy touched the stone and then one thing led to another.

Perhaps they shouldn't have leapt from the Dock.
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Postby Euroslavia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:04 pm

Absolute Moralia wrote:Has anyone watched the video where that poor Jordanian guy is burned to death? fantastic.


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There's nothing fantastic about someone being burned to death. I'd strongly suggest you review what you say before you hit "Submit", or you won't be here for very long.
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Postby Absolute Moralia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:31 pm

I wonder if they keep a record of all these executions they have carried out so far.
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Absolute Moralia wrote:I wonder if they keep a record of all these executions they have carried out so far.


Sounds like you're wanting copies.
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Postby Absolute Moralia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:35 pm

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Absolute Moralia wrote:I wonder if they keep a record of all these executions they have carried out so far.


Sounds like you're wanting copies.


I'm just curious about the total number of people that have been executed.
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Postby Herargon » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:49 pm

Absolute Moralia wrote:
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Sounds like you're wanting copies.


I'm just curious about the total number of people that have been executed.


At least 1,000-8,000 for sure.

Total list of ISIL people killed:

SYRIA:

7,261–7,891 killed (per SOHR; certain incidents January 2014–January 2015)
4,800+ killed (per SAA; conflict with the Syrian gov. September–December 2014)

IRAQ: 6,760 killed, 5,529 arrested


Source: Wikipedia articles about the Syrian civil war and the Iraqese insurgency.
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Postby Absolute Moralia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:56 pm

Herargon wrote:
Absolute Moralia wrote:
I'm just curious about the total number of people that have been executed.


At least 1,000-8,000 for sure.

Total list of ISIL people killed:

SYRIA:

7,261–7,891 killed (per SOHR; certain incidents January 2014–January 2015)
4,800+ killed (per SAA; conflict with the Syrian gov. September–December 2014)

IRAQ: 6,760 killed, 5,529 arrested


Source: Wikipedia articles about the Syrian civil war and the Iraqese insurgency.


That probably includes civilian casualties amidst clashes.
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Postby Al Nahar » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:26 pm

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-arab ... cials-say/

The UAE dropped out of the group of countries conducting airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria in December but has remained involved in noncombat roles, the officials said. They spoke only on condition of anonymity because the move has not been announced and they were not authorized to speak on the record.


Seems like they want the US to improve it search and rescue capabilities, here is my question for those who are experts in American military, aside from the risk of the hostage being killed, let us say a team of American special soldiers went to save a hostage from Daesh, can they be okay for a long time even with Daesh rushing in reinforcements if they have those AC-130s up in the air and drones protecting them?
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:46 pm

Al Nahar wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-arab-emirates-no-longer-flying-isis-airstrikes-over-syria-u-s-officials-say/

The UAE dropped out of the group of countries conducting airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria in December but has remained involved in noncombat roles, the officials said. They spoke only on condition of anonymity because the move has not been announced and they were not authorized to speak on the record.


Seems like they want the US to improve it search and rescue capabilities, here is my question for those who are experts in American military, aside from the risk of the hostage being killed, let us say a team of American special soldiers went to save a hostage from Daesh, can they be okay for a long time even with Daesh rushing in reinforcements if they have those AC-130s up in the air and drones protecting them?

For a short bombing run, sure. But if for a long time and with Daesh rushing in reinforcements? Come now. Daesh may be crumbling, but it does have the capability to shoot down an airplane.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:20 pm

Al Nahar wrote:
Seems like they want the US to improve it search and rescue capabilities, here is my question for those who are experts in American military, aside from the risk of the hostage being killed, let us say a team of American special soldiers went to save a hostage from Daesh, can they be okay for a long time even with Daesh rushing in reinforcements if they have those AC-130s up in the air and drones protecting them?


There's actually specialized teams (TRAP teams) that exist to locate and retrieve downed pilots through classified methods (at least in NATO countries; I'm not sure if our Arab allies have similar protocols that are shared with us) in operations that take very little amounts of time and generally are carried out with intense amounts of electronics warfare support.

Russia's IADS would render these operations highly unrealistic, but against IS? I'd be a quick in and out affair. IS may be able to shoot down aircraft, but they lack anything that can't be counter-acted easily.

One more thing, is that TRAP teams usually have a 2000+ man MEU standing by offshore to come in if things don't go well. The TRAP teams themselves aren't necessarily special operations forces, however.
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Postby Romalae » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:18 pm

Not to brag too much, but I feel a little vindicated by this post of mine several days back, before the burning video came out. I knew it seemed a little strange that they would execute the Japanese hostage before the Jordanian fighter pilot, and as it turns out, my suspicions were right because apparently the pilot was actually executed on January 3rd, nearly a month before the Japanese hostage, and the video just hadn't come out until now.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:37 pm

King Abdullah himself is flying missions against ISIS. Holy -shit-.


Keep in mind, King Abdullah was originally a British officer trained at Sandhurst and actually has led Jordanian special forces troops, before.
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:42 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:King Abdullah himself is flying missions against ISIS. Holy -shit-.


Keep in mind, King Abdullah was originally a British officer trained at Sandhurst and actually has led Jordanian special forces troops, before.

I'm liking this guy more and more.

While Jordan isn't entirely Democratic- The King still has a lot of power- It is, by far, more democratic then surrounding Arab countries.

But. This guy. He's personally firing at militants attacking his country. King Abdullah has guts.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:42 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:King Abdullah himself is flying missions against ISIS. Holy -shit-.


Keep in mind, King Abdullah was originally a British officer trained at Sandhurst and actually has led Jordanian special forces troops, before.

Holy fucking shit. My jaw literally dropped whenever I read that.

This guy is a nothing but a badass (and a decent head of state, if my brief wikiwalk isn't lying. But who gives a damn about that when HE'S FLYING JETS!?). I'll never see Jordan the same way again.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:50 pm

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in the cockpit with King Abdullah

BTW, judging from the cockpit, that's one of Jordan's two MC-235s, which are Jordan's equivalent to the AC-130 in that it's a transport modded to carry hella weapons.
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Postby New Jordslag » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:54 pm


Who is taking these pictures?

Oh god, don't tell me Abdullah is taking Selfies.
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Postby Romalae » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:55 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:King Abdullah himself is flying missions against ISIS. Holy -shit-.


Keep in mind, King Abdullah was originally a British officer trained at Sandhurst and actually has led Jordanian special forces troops, before.

He's pretty kick-ass, but I sure would hope he doesn't get shot down over Raqqa.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:55 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:King Abdullah himself is flying missions against ISIS. Holy -shit-.


Keep in mind, King Abdullah was originally a British officer trained at Sandhurst and actually has led Jordanian special forces troops, before.

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Go King Abdullah. I can't imagine it's exactly the most effective measure or going to have any practical consequence (I mean, they legitimately cannot risk the king getting shot down can they?) but it's symbolic as fuck. Put him and that UAE female pilot that was flying strike missions against the barbarians beside one another for maximum one-finger salute-levels at ISIS.
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