Dogs should be Banned

[United Christian States of America]

I agree. Dogs should be banned. Let's start the legislation to better the world.

[Olthar]

When you're using a video game as evidence you're doing something very wrong. And most of us use leashes. And my cat goes outside almost every day, sometimes two or three times.

If Kefka wants to use the video game line of thinking then he should want to ban tortoises too, because they might suddenly get six feet tall and have cannons poking out of their backs that they blast other animals with.

Ban plumbers. They're all psychotic, genocidal maniacs.

[Onocarcass]

I've been bitten, and I still love dogs more than certain "personalities" I have made acquaintance with. Because, when a dog bites, it's because it's an animal - you can't blame an animal for doing shit, it just acts according to natural evolutionary instincts.

Would you like to see people banned ? Because they bite too, and not entirely out of instinct.

this is not about assigning blame.

Dogs are not morally culpable; they aren't really free agents in the same way humans are.

The only objective is to maximize social safety at a reasonable cost. Its not about trying dogs for their crimes...

When the majority of the populace would disagree with a ban on dogs, it's not a reasonable cost.

[Norstal]

I've been bitten, and I still love dogs more than certain "personalities" I have made acquaintance with. Because, when a dog bites, it's because it's an animal - you can't blame an animal for doing shit, it just acts according to natural evolutionary instincts.

Would you like to see people banned ? Because they bite too, and not entirely out of instinct.

this is not about assigning blame.

Dogs are not morally culpable; they aren't really free agents in the same way humans are.

The only objective is to maximize social safety at a reasonable cost. Its not about trying dogs for their crimes...

Look at this cute wittle doggy:

You can't tell me you want that banned!

[Sulania]

You can span it out all you want and sugar-coat it, you're still calling for the genocide, extermination, however you want to put it, of an entire species. Just because they have the potential to be dangerous.

they are still allowed to survive in the wild...

also, we could carve out some exceptions for specialized purposes (ex for military applications) but they will just no longer populate the domestic front (to minimize the public hazard issues).

Then you're not even eliminating the problem that you claim Is there. You're contradicting it, dogs are still dangerous then. Wild dogs are more dangerous than domestic ones too.

Everything you are proposing is lunacy, I'm sorry, it is. Your solution is not a solution, to a problem that is not so much a problem. Your whole reasoning is flawed, and your solution doesn't solve what you're trying to solve. It's only slightly limiting it, slightly.

[Infected Mushroom]

this is not about assigning blame.

Dogs are not morally culpable; they aren't really free agents in the same way humans are.

The only objective is to maximize social safety at a reasonable cost. Its not about trying dogs for their crimes...

When the majority of the populace would disagree with a ban on dogs, it's not a reasonable cost.

really? dog owners are a majority?

[Dracoria]

If Kefka wants to use the video game line of thinking then he should want to ban tortoises too, because they might suddenly get six feet tall and have cannons poking out of their backs that they blast other animals with.

Ban plumbers. They're all psychotic, genocidal maniacs.

They're frickin' communists. Overthrowing kings and raising the red star flag over conquered territories.

[Constaniana]

If Kefka wants to use the video game line of thinking then he should want to ban tortoises too, because they might suddenly get six feet tall and have cannons poking out of their backs that they blast other animals with.

There goes my dream of being the very best that ever was. POKEMON, gotta catch 'em all!!

While we're crushing childhood dreams, you most emphatically are not getting a pony from Father Christmas.

Some breeds should be banned imo, like bulldogs and poodles.

Why?

[Infected Mushroom]

they are still allowed to survive in the wild...

also, we could carve out some exceptions for specialized purposes (ex for military applications) but they will just no longer populate the domestic front (to minimize the public hazard issues).

Then you're not even eliminating the problem that you claim Is there. You're contradicting it, dogs are still dangerous then. Wild dogs are more dangerous than domestic ones too.

Everything you are proposing is lunacy, I'm sorry, it is. Your solution is not a solution, to a problem that is not so much a problem. Your whole reasoning is flawed, and your solution doesn't solve what you're trying to solve. It's only slightly limiting it, slightly.

Obviously wild dogs would not be allowed in human population centers.

[Viritica]

>"If you've played Call of Duty"



I can't... I... I just can't.

why do you think the military has used many specialized attack dog units both in the present and in the past?

Dogs are a carnivorous species. Their teeth have not evolved to eat grass, they are sharp and strong, good for tearing through flesh.

Call of Duty is not by any stretch of the imagination a realistic interpretation of how the military operates, let alone how it uses dogs.

[Roski]

When the majority of the populace would disagree with a ban on dogs, it's not a reasonable cost.

really? dog owners are a majority?

You don't have to own dogs to want them to stay.

[United States of Cascadia]

Some breeds should be banned imo, like bulldogs and poodles.

Breed specific legislation is retarded. An untrained (or a dangerously trained) dog is dangerous no matter what breed it is. In contrast, a properly trained dog can be the friendliest thing you'll ever meet. The breed is irrelevant to the matter.

[Sun Wukong]

>"If you've played Call of Duty"



I can't... I... I just can't.

why do you think the military has used many specialized attack dog units both in the present and in the past?

Dogs are a carnivorous species. Their teeth have not evolved to eat grass, they are sharp and strong, good for tearing through flesh.

That's right.

[Constaniana]

If Kefka wants to use the video game line of thinking then he should want to ban tortoises too, because they might suddenly get six feet tall and have cannons poking out of their backs that they blast other animals with.

Ban plumbers. They're all psychotic, genocidal maniacs.

Not to mention very reckless drivers.

[Purelandy]

In that case, just ban all pets. Because birds have bird flu, cats bite and scratch, and basically every pet can bite, scratch or something. Then the only viable pet is a pet fish

dogs are categorically different and distinct from other pets because

1) they can actually cause severe physical damage to human beings (their teeth are really really sharp and strong)... for example, a cat can scratch you but it can't take off your fingers or really penetrate your neck. If you have played Call of Duty, you know that there are some very very powerful attack dogs that can even kill people.

2) Dog owners won't keep dogs inside. Dog owners will always take their dogs out for walks. Hence, this exposes the public to its dangers. Whereas cats and birds are often kept indoors for their entire existence.

I thought i heard every idiotic idea vomited out by every DOUCHEBAG CUCUMBER BRAINED ASSHOLE out there, but this jerk topped it! normally i just brush BULLSHIT like this off but You tell me I cant have dogs, whom i love very much, WE GOT A PROBLEM!!! You want to take my dogs away or stop dogs from breeding as to weed them out, you will have to do so OVER MY COLD FUCKING DEAD BODY!!!!!!!
Not any personal attacks, just fighting for the right to exist.

[Bulgar Rouge]

Obviously wild dogs would not be allowed in human population centers.

We have owls and bats in our population centers, should they be banned ?

[Sulania]

Then you're not even eliminating the problem that you claim Is there. You're contradicting it, dogs are still dangerous then. Wild dogs are more dangerous than domestic ones too.

Everything you are proposing is lunacy, I'm sorry, it is. Your solution is not a solution, to a problem that is not so much a problem. Your whole reasoning is flawed, and your solution doesn't solve what you're trying to solve. It's only slightly limiting it, slightly.

Obviously wild dogs would not be allowed in human population centers.

And how are you going to stop them from being there, shooting on sight? Which I thought you weren't going to do.

And how are you going to stop them from attacking the rural population?

[Americanada]

I remember Kieth Olbermman once answering that question. You shoot them and leave out poisoned meat. As he explained, the process prioritizes the killing of the most friendly dogs since those most trusting of humans will be most likely to see them leaving food around and approach those with such a deficiency of altruism to betray dogs.

Eh, that sounds like it would take too long. Not to mention that dog breeds can mellow out over time or replace the dead dogs.

Hey, it is what Vladimir Putin tacitly approved as the most efficient way to get rid of over 70,000 stray dogs, and I have a hard time doubting that an ex-KGB agent would somehow not know the most efficient ways to kill anything.

[Onocarcass]

When the majority of the populace would disagree with a ban on dogs, it's not a reasonable cost.

really? dog owners are a majority?

I didn't say that now did I? I said the majority of people would appose a ban on dogs, therefore making it an unreasonable cost.

[Wisconsin9]

Fun fact: every year, around four and a half million Americans are bitten by dogs. 0.002% of them -- a grand total of nine -- die.

[Partially Blind People]

When you're using a video game as evidence you're doing something very wrong. And most of us use leashes. And my cat goes outside almost every day, sometimes two or three times.

Leashes are an imperfect mechanism of control.

In fact, two of the times I was attacked by dogs the animal had a leash and a collar. But the owner was distracted or just didn't care much for my safety.

Are you sure you're not the problem?

Leashes are imperfect mainly because the dog feels threatened and restricted, it cannot defend itself properly and doesn't have the full ability to move so it tends to become more aggressive.

A well trained dog that responds to a particular command such as stop is of little danger to anyone. My dog, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier (a supposedly dangerous breed), lives in a house of 7 people including an 8 year old girl. He is more likely to harm someone by accidentally standing on their feet than biting them.

That being said, dogs like all animals, need to be treated with respect and care and like humans will have 'bad days' sometimes when they are grumpy.

[The Eastern Antarctic State]

When the majority of the populace would disagree with a ban on dogs, it's not a reasonable cost.

really? dog owners are a majority?

https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/Stati ... rship.aspx

Not quite a majority, but the largest category

[Torisakia]

While we're at it, lets ban people. Just think about it, they're mean, they're vicious, they abuse everything. We'd be better off without them. (obviously kidding)

This is the most ridiculous argument I've seen on NSG in a few years. So a dog barks at you? Cry me a river. Must be the worst crime ever since the Holocaust.

[Dracoria]

When the majority of the populace would disagree with a ban on dogs, it's not a reasonable cost.

really? dog owners are a majority?

People other than dog owners disagree with you. In fact, I would wager the vast majority of NSG and perhaps the entire Internet does, like with Canada seeking nuclear weapons or banning business/first-class seating on planes.

[Constaniana]

Obviously wild dogs would not be allowed in human population centers.

We have owls and bats in our population centers, should they be banned ?

An owl hooted at me, and I was very, very frightened. Ban them at once.