Sea Shepherd vs Whalers battle goes high tech

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

The Japanese are hunting the whales in a sustainable manner.
Extinction is not a threat.

Well, fuck. Who cares then? We ought to get in on some of that whale meaty-goodness then. I want some

It's high in mercury.

[Yootopia]

The Japanese are hunting the whales in a sustainable manner.
Extinction is not a threat.

Well, fuck. Who cares then? We ought to get in on some of that whale meaty-goodness then. I want some

It's high in mercury.

Good.

[Greed and Death]

The Japanese are hunting the whales in a sustainable manner.
Extinction is not a threat.

Well, fuck. Who cares then? We ought to get in on some of that whale meaty-goodness then. I want some

It's high in mercury.

I read the preparation method the Japanese employ reduces the mercury significantly.

[F1-Insanity]

There is good reason why almost every nation on Earth was willing to sign onto a moratorium on whaling. It is not because Laos, New Zealand, Russia, Kenya, China, Ghana, Peru, India, Brazil, the United States, and the other IWC nations share a common culture; it is because there is a very strong cross-cultural argument against whaling.

Laos? WTF? Doesn't even have a sea border...

And if whales were so damn smart, how come there is such concern for their extinction? And who would miss the fuckers if they didn't exist anymore? I don't see anyone clamoring for protectin' the dodo...

[Lackadaisical2]

The Japanese are hunting the whales in a sustainable manner.
Extinction is not a threat.

Well, fuck. Who cares then? We ought to get in on some of that whale meaty-goodness then. I want some

It's high in mercury.

Point being?

I never said I planned to eat a kilo of the stuff everyday.

[Katganistan]

I support this, as long as whales can be hunted sustainably. We can't have them going extinct, now can we?

Why not? Is there a law that says species are not allowed to go extinct?

If so, then it was probably drawn up by the same people who claim that climate change isn't a natural phenomenon anymore, ie morans.

Did you, by chance, mean to write "morons"?

[Yootopia]

I don't see anyone clamoring for protectin' the dodo...

Good shout, international law surrounding the treatment of the environment was taken a bit more seriously in the Age of Sail... wait...

[Traxa]

So long as we don't over harvest whales there's nothing wrong with killing them. We do the same thing with deer, turkey, duck, quail, rabbit, squirrel, wild boar, elk, raccoon and a plethora of other types of game animals as well as the harvesting of numerous types of fish and other marine life and have no problem with it. So why shouldn't we be able to harvest species of whale like the Minke which are not even considered a threatened species whale's aren't anything special.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

whale's aren't anything special.

Cetaceans have a highly developed brain, their cortex is larger than that of us humans. They can solve problems, they "play" with eachother, their "vocabulary" is larger than ours, they have the ability to use tools. Ah, the things they could answer if they could talk...Really, I consider the harpooned whales far more sentient than the whalers.

[New Ziedrich]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

[Traxa]

whale's aren't anything special.

Cetaceans have a highly developed brain, their cortex is larger than that of us humans. They can solve problems, they "play" with eachother, their "vocabulary" is larger than ours, they have the ability to use tools. Ah, the things they could answer if they could talk...Really, I consider the harpooned whales far more sentient than the whalers.

And?

I can train a parakeet to say certain words or a cat to eat with a fork, monkeys use tools and you can have a dog guide a blind man through a city, mice can find their way through a maze and an elephant can paint a picture. Whales are not special by any stretch. Thankfully the "Whale Wars" program accurately portrayed the Sea Shepard crew as the environmentalist nut jobs they really are and keeps this "Save the whales" nonsense from getting any real support from anyone important.

[Traxa]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

If the Japs were smart they would just sink the Irwin and let those retards drown already.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

If the Japs were smart they would just sink the Irwin and let those retards drown already.

Jap is derrogatory.

[Krazniastan]

I love watching that show. I'm constantly at awe just how stupid, inept, and lucky those hippies are. They have no business being out in that part of the ocean with that vessel, and especially with that moron in charge. . . .

Wonder how long until the French realize that they could park a Rubis class boat out there and hit the Sea Shepard with an Exocet when noone is looking, and just let the Media think the ship was lost in a storm or something. . .

[Traxa]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

If the Japs were smart they would just sink the Irwin and let those retards drown already.

Jap is derrogatory.

Not really, but if you're one of the type that gets offended by things like the "N word" I won't use it anymore.

[Brogavia]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

If the Japs were smart they would just sink the Irwin and let those retards drown already.

Jap is derrogatory.

Are you Japanese? If not, stop being offended for other people.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

If the Japs were smart they would just sink the Irwin and let those retards drown already.

Jap is derrogatory.

Are you Japanese? If not, stop being offended for other people.

With all due respect, I decline. You are not in charge of me.

[L3 Communications]

Those sea shepherd guys are dicks.

So are the whalers. And both are breaking laws.

This.

I will admit, that boat looks extremely badass on the outside.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

Those sea shepherd guys are dicks.

So are the whalers. And both are breaking laws.

This.

I will admit, that boat looks extremely badass on the outside.

The inside looks like a styrofoam cyclinder.

[Brogavia]

You know, I've actually watched a couple of seasons of Whale Wars, and I'm surprised the Steve Irwin is still afloat. Sorriest crew I've ever seen.

If the Japs were smart they would just sink the Irwin and let those retards drown already.

Jap is derrogatory.

Are you Japanese? If not, stop being offended for other people.

With all due respect, I decline. You are not in charge of me.

I hate people who get offended for other people. It only serves to fill avoid that got left in them because when they were six, some other kid was mean to them.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

I hate people who get offended for other people. It only serves to fill avoid that got left in them because when they were six, some other kid was mean to them.

Love you too, buddy.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Did you, by chance, mean to write "morons"?

Actually, I think he meant strawmen, seeing as how no climatologist desputes that the Earth has natural warm and cool periods.

[Khorsun]

Sea Shepard should be harpooned. The Japanese can say they mistook them for a whale.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

if whales were so damn smart, how come there is such concern for their extinction?

Because you don't understand evolution.

And who would miss the fuckers if they didn't exist anymore?

I'd say the habitats that they were a vital part of would be fucked.

I don't see anyone clamoring for protectin' the dodo...

That's because they don't exist anymore.

[Khorsun]

Cetaceans have a highly developed brain, their cortex is larger than that of us humans. They can solve problems, they "play" with eachother, their "vocabulary" is larger than ours, they have the ability to use tools. Ah, the things they could answer if they could talk...Really, I consider the harpooned whales far more sentient than the whalers.

As far as intelligence goes, right after the primates, and the cetaceans, and the elephants, you know what animal comes next? The pig. Pigs are smarter than dogs, and they do come pretty damn close to elephants in terms of intelligence. Why don't people know it? Because pigs don't have as showy of a means of expressing it as an elephant or a dolphin or a gorilla. No grasping appendages other than their mouth, and their environment (commercial pig farms) doesn't allow them much room for it either.

And unless you're a vegetarian, I doubt you have a problem with people eating bacon and wearing leather belts and shoes that came from pig hide. If whales get protected becuase of high-level intelligence, why shouldn't pigs get the same protection? Where do you draw the line on what's acceptable to hunt and what's not?

And getting past the marine mammals, octopuses are the next smart animals in the ocean. They've mastered tool use as well, and they've shown the ability to solve puzzles and they've been seen playing with toys. Do you have a problem with calamari too?

And one more thing...I call BS on whales having a larger vocabulary than humans, unless you're using a definition of the term that doesn't mean 'set of words.' And tool use isn't so special either. All kinds of animals use tools. And all kinds of animals play.


So basically, either accept that whales are no more special than other animals and so they don't deserve special protections, or say that a whole lot of other animals also deserve them, to the point where it's impractical to give it to all of them.