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by Edward Richtofen » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:28 am
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:It seems like Donald has pulled out his Trump card.
Corrian wrote: I'm freaking Corrian.
Death Metal wrote:By the OP's logic:
-Communists are big fans of capitalism
-Anarchists believe in the necessity of the state
-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.
by Bythyrona » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:33 am
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Bythyrona wrote:And where did I say it was wrong to acknowledge that what happens on the field matter? Where did I say that winning doesn't matter? Humility and being a graceful winner is every bit as important as being a graceful loser, despite this horseshit EVERYTHING IS A COMPETITION HURRRR mentality that the West espouses.
"Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful." - John Wooden
"Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble." - John Madden
"Build me a son who will be strong enough to know when he is weak, and brave enough to face himself when he is afraid, one who will be proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory." - Douglas MacArthur
Not really. It is important to show your superiority in any competition of skill, and to make that obvious. This is especially true if you've got a big game coming up, and the patriots do have a farely big game coming up I think. It boosts confidence immensely.
by The greater Vakolicci Haven » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:41 am
Bythyrona wrote:The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Not really. It is important to show your superiority in any competition of skill, and to make that obvious. This is especially true if you've got a big game coming up, and the patriots do have a farely big game coming up I think. It boosts confidence immensely.
Yep, you're right, strength and brutalizing the competition is better than any compassion or humility you could ever show your opponent on the pitch. THE LAST FIVE MINUTES OF THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AND HOW THEY WERE PLAYED WILL DETERMINE A GAME THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. Children's sports? THEY ONLY EXIST TO FURTHER REGIMENT SOCIETY INTO TIERS OF THE WORTHY AND UNWORTHY! What a fool John Wooden was to not act like Bob Knight!
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/down-w ... 1601764538
^ Pretty much why I think every assertion you've made about competition is wrong.
"Winning shit is nice. I'm never gonna discount how awesome winning feels, even when it involves me crushing my kid at foosball. But winning is best viewed not as a goal, but as the fortunate byproduct of chasing another, more realistic goal—the satisfaction of hard work done well. Enslaving yourself to the almighty W makes you stupid; it deforms you, robs you of your creativity, as you pursue some agreed-upon idea of excellence instead of doing the worthwhile job of defining it for yourself. No one ever thought of a good idea in the middle of cramming for the SAT.
When Louis CK took to Twitter to decry the Common Core curriculum that is now standard in many schools, his chief complaint was that his kids didn't like learning anymore. Rather than exploring new thoughts and ideas, they were basically forced to learn how to be competitive at a bunch of tests, many of them clumsily written. They weren't learning for themselves anymore; they were learning for some faceless exam that would sort them and then tell them if they were competitive or not, and if their school was competitive enough to earn the federal funding needed to remain competitive."
by Occupied Deutschland » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:14 pm
Wisconsin9 wrote:Bythyrona wrote:As much as I'd like to agree with that sentiment, the Colts didn't lose because of Deflategate. Spygate was far worse, and would have been paid far more attention to had ESPN not fucking slobbered over LOL PERFECT SEASON every imaginable waking second of the 2007 NFL season.
The fact that it wasn't a close game is completely irrelevant. If this happened, then it still would have happened regardless of the score. And if they really did cheat, then it looks like getting docked draft picks last time didn't teach them a damn thing. A point will need to be made and it will need to be made abundantly and unquestionably clear, and if that requires telling them to stay the fuck home on the first then so be it.
by Wisconsin9 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:28 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:The fact that it wasn't a close game is completely irrelevant. If this happened, then it still would have happened regardless of the score. And if they really did cheat, then it looks like getting docked draft picks last time didn't teach them a damn thing. A point will need to be made and it will need to be made abundantly and unquestionably clear, and if that requires telling them to stay the fuck home on the first then so be it.
I'd agree were I not a Seahawks fan and would that not be seen as self-serving.
Still, if they deflated balls that's some serious shit especially coming on the heels of Belichick's spying bullshit. I am, frankly, rather pissed that the punishment for actively cheating could be something so blase as losing draft picks. I don't care if the game was one-sided anyways, that shit is bullshit.
Maybe we could just replace the Pats with the Colts? That was the match-up I wanted to see anyways, because I kind of like Luck, despise Brady, and wanted to see a Super Bowl between new-blood quarterbacks...
by Torisakia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:39 pm
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by The greater Vakolicci Haven » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:41 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:The fact that it wasn't a close game is completely irrelevant. If this happened, then it still would have happened regardless of the score. And if they really did cheat, then it looks like getting docked draft picks last time didn't teach them a damn thing. A point will need to be made and it will need to be made abundantly and unquestionably clear, and if that requires telling them to stay the fuck home on the first then so be it.
I'd agree were I not a Seahawks fan and would that not be seen as self-serving.
Still, if they deflated balls that's some serious shit especially coming on the heels of Belichick's spying bullshit. I am, frankly, rather pissed that the punishment for actively cheating could be something so blase as losing draft picks. I don't care if the game was one-sided anyways, that shit is bullshit.
Maybe we could just replace the Pats with the Colts? That was the match-up I wanted to see anyways, because I kind of like Luck, despise Brady, and wanted to see a Super Bowl between new-blood quarterbacks...
by Tiami » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:28 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:The fact that it wasn't a close game is completely irrelevant. If this happened, then it still would have happened regardless of the score. And if they really did cheat, then it looks like getting docked draft picks last time didn't teach them a damn thing. A point will need to be made and it will need to be made abundantly and unquestionably clear, and if that requires telling them to stay the fuck home on the first then so be it.
I'd agree were I not a Seahawks fan and would that not be seen as self-serving.
Still, if they deflated balls that's some serious shit especially coming on the heels of Belichick's spying bullshit. I am, frankly, rather pissed that the punishment for actively cheating could be something so blase as losing draft picks. I don't care if the game was one-sided anyways, that shit is bullshit.
Maybe we could just replace the Pats with the Colts? That was the match-up I wanted to see anyways, because I kind of like Luck, despise Brady, and wanted to see a Super Bowl between new-blood quarterbacks...
by United Russian Soviet States » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:46 pm
by Bythyrona » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:25 pm
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Don't use nonsensical analagies. Schools obviously need to teach students to pass exams, otherwise their'd be no system of judging progress.
However, I don't see that being relevant to a clearly superior team going easy on an opposition simply to maintain some odd form of 'compassion.' They've nothing to be humble about; they should go and destroy the other team and try and set a record.
by Spoder » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:19 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:The fact that it wasn't a close game is completely irrelevant. If this happened, then it still would have happened regardless of the score. And if they really did cheat, then it looks like getting docked draft picks last time didn't teach them a damn thing. A point will need to be made and it will need to be made abundantly and unquestionably clear, and if that requires telling them to stay the fuck home on the first then so be it.
I'd agree were I not a Seahawks fan and would that not be seen as self-serving.
Still, if they deflated balls that's some serious shit especially coming on the heels of Belichick's spying bullshit. I am, frankly, rather pissed that the punishment for actively cheating could be something so blase as losing draft picks. I don't care if the game was one-sided anyways, that shit is bullshit.
Maybe we could just replace the Pats with the Colts? That was the match-up I wanted to see anyways, because I kind of like Luck, despise Brady, and wanted to see a Super Bowl between new-blood quarterbacks...
by Nazis in Space » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:56 pm
by The greater Vakolicci Haven » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:32 am
by Bralia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:02 am
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:So, the NFL has found that 11 of the 12 Patriots game footballs were deflated.
What we need to be thinking, however, is did the Patriots need to deflate the footballs? Why the hell did they even do it? They'd have beaten the Colts anyway.
by The greater Vakolicci Haven » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:19 am
Bralia wrote:The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:So, the NFL has found that 11 of the 12 Patriots game footballs were deflated.
What we need to be thinking, however, is did the Patriots need to deflate the footballs? Why the hell did they even do it? They'd have beaten the Colts anyway.
Why did they do it? Does that even need to be asked? It's because they're flat out, god damn idiots. Pure and simple. Time to slap a huge-ass fine on the entire team and/or strip something valuable to them. I'm hoping for all of the above. No sympathy for cheating scumbags.
Also, quick and easy link to a source.
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:34 am
by Pope Joan » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:57 am
by Torisakia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:22 pm
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by Cymrea » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:48 pm
Torisakia wrote:So does this DefalteGate mean the Colts are going to the SuperBowl? If so, then I need to up my bet on Seattle.
by Torisakia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:15 pm
Cymrea wrote:Torisakia wrote:So does this DefalteGate mean the Colts are going to the SuperBowl? If so, then I need to up my bet on Seattle.
I think we can do better than to attach a forty-year-old suffix to every bloody scandal. Everything's a "-gate" for no better reason than intellectual laziness.
And he didn't get the nickname Beli-cheat for nothing.
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by Cymrea » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:37 pm
Torisakia wrote:Cymrea wrote:I think we can do better than to attach a forty-year-old suffix to every bloody scandal. Everything's a "-gate" for no better reason than intellectual laziness.
And he didn't get the nickname Beli-cheat for nothing.
ESPN gave it that name, so that means everyone has to call it that, right?
by Occupied Deutschland » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:27 pm
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:So, the NFL has found that 11 of the 12 Patriots game footballs were deflated.
What we need to be thinking, however, is did the Patriots need to deflate the footballs? Why the hell did they even do it? They'd have beaten the Colts anyway.
by United Russian Soviet States » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:30 pm
Torisakia wrote:So does this DefalteGate mean the Colts are going to the SuperBowl? If so, then I need to up my bet on Seattle.
by The REAL Glasers » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:37 pm
by Torisakia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:06 pm
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
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