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Will the Broncos make the playoffs in 2016?

Yes
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35%
No
30
28%
The Raiders have a better chance
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37%
 
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Postby Boomhaueristan » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:49 am

Luminesa wrote:
Boomhaueristan wrote:Yeah, can't be loyal to Chip right now. He's acting confident and defending his actions. I understood losing Maclin, I can get trading McCoy if we get a star RB (still waiting), I'd prefer to keep McCoy and if we don't continue our success on the ground it'll be a major loss to team success. Bradford was a mistake, but we'll see if he can handle our scheme. I'm trying to remain optimistic.

And of course my 2nd team would shove our asses on the dirt on occasion, as long as the games are competitive to the end I'm happy.

And fuck Dallas, I want to see us fly all over them twice a year every year.


You have Malcolm Jenkins. As much as I want him back (SO BAD), he's an awesome safety. I expect you guys to destroy Dallas, even without Shady.

The Cowboys were stupid enough to not put the tag on Murray, now they're gonna pay for it.

Indeed, Jenkins is a great safety.

The secondary positions are tied for my second favorite position, right after defensive end. That's only because I loved playing right DE in highschool, rushing some yippie qb was my second favorite thing after chasing tail.

I have a lot of established second favorites.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:15 pm

Chip won't draft Mariota. No reunion though.
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Postby Bythyrona » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:30 pm

Luminesa wrote:I'm just trying to figure out who in their right mind would want MARK SANCHEZ as their starting QB, and SAM BRADFORD as their backup.

Mark Sanchez is Joe Flacco if he's drafted somewhere else. Those Jets offenses were downright talentless shit - fuck Braylon "0 CTH" Edwards. Sanchez is 4-2 in playoff games. I'm not saying I would lean on him at this point as a starter, but he's definitely great backup material. The Dirty Sanchez Hate Train has always ignored the far bigger problem of those Jets teams: terrible coaching (HURRDURR QB PLATOON SYSTEM HURRDURR) and downright moronic GMing by Idzik.

Luminesa wrote:I miss Ocho...the NFL's just not the same without him.

The death of the era of prima donna wide receivers is something that should never be mourned.

Luminesa wrote:Chip's an idiot if he thinks Bradford will ever produce on the level of Brees, Brady, or Manning.

Uh... I sincerely doubt Chip Kelly thinks Sam Bradford is remotely comparable to any of those passers.

EDIT: Well, good ol' Chip signed Ryan Mathews anyways. God, this is too good to be true. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that Mathews will be a backup to DeMarco Murray, but holy shit, if he turns down Murray for Mathews...
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Postby The greater Vakolicci Haven » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:46 pm

So, it looks like DeMarco Murray will be signing with the Eagles.

You know, I hoped that he was going far, far away from that Conference; I guess I shouldn't hope too much.
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Postby Osarius » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:07 pm

Bythyrona wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I miss Ocho...the NFL's just not the same without him.

The death of the era of prima donna wide receivers is something that should never be mourned.

Prima donna? Child please. Chad was a goofball more than anything.

Even if I agreed that he was a prima donna, the NFL is in the entertainment business. Chad entertained. Love the guy.
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Postby Spoder » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:08 pm

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Postby Boomhaueristan » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:39 pm

Osarius wrote:
Bythyrona wrote:The death of the era of prima donna wide receivers is something that should never be mourned.

Prima donna? Child please. Chad was a goofball more than anything.

Even if I agreed that he was a prima donna, the NFL is in the entertainment business. Chad entertained. Love the guy.

Chad was pretty fun to watch, he had fun regardless of the fines.

Chip pulled together something, he has my interest next season. Not saying it's a sure thing, but maybe he does know what he's doing.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:32 pm

Bythyrona wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I'm just trying to figure out who in their right mind would want MARK SANCHEZ as their starting QB, and SAM BRADFORD as their backup.

Mark Sanchez is Joe Flacco if he's drafted somewhere else. Those Jets offenses were downright talentless shit - fuck Braylon "0 CTH" Edwards. Sanchez is 4-2 in playoff games. I'm not saying I would lean on him at this point as a starter, but he's definitely great backup material. The Dirty Sanchez Hate Train has always ignored the far bigger problem of those Jets teams: terrible coaching (HURRDURR QB PLATOON SYSTEM HURRDURR) and downright moronic GMing by Idzik.

Luminesa wrote:I miss Ocho...the NFL's just not the same without him.

The death of the era of prima donna wide receivers is something that should never be mourned.

Luminesa wrote:Chip's an idiot if he thinks Bradford will ever produce on the level of Brees, Brady, or Manning.

Uh... I sincerely doubt Chip Kelly thinks Sam Bradford is remotely comparable to any of those passers.

EDIT: Well, good ol' Chip signed Ryan Mathews anyways. God, this is too good to be true. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that Mathews will be a backup to DeMarco Murray, but holy shit, if he turns down Murray for Mathews...


I would never compare Sanchez and Flacco. Sure, Flacco's inconsistent, but he's not Mr. Butt Fumble.

And it's not like prima donnas are going anywhere, soon, anyway...what, with Jameis Winston coming into the NFL, this year. :/

I know Kelly doesn't think so, but why did he sign Bradford, then?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:46 pm

Is Sam "Knees" Bradford a fit in Chip's no-huddle offense? I'm still pondering that. :?:
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:50 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Is Sam "Knees" Bradford a fit in Chip's no-huddle offense? I'm still pondering that. :?:

Foles wasn't really the most mobile QB either. Still, one does have to wonder.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:57 pm

Boomhaueristan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
You have Malcolm Jenkins. As much as I want him back (SO BAD), he's an awesome safety. I expect you guys to destroy Dallas, even without Shady.

The Cowboys were stupid enough to not put the tag on Murray, now they're gonna pay for it.

Indeed, Jenkins is a great safety.

The secondary positions are tied for my second favorite position, right after defensive end. That's only because I loved playing right DE in highschool, rushing some yippie qb was my second favorite thing after chasing tail.

I have a lot of established second favorites.


My favorite position is running back, just because teams like the Cowboys are gonna suffer from giving up their running game like they did (Demarco got his wings! He's an Eagle, now!) I mean, the run game is basically half the offense.

Love safeties and corners, especially considering how important they are to winning games. No secondary = people like Justin Forsett shoot you out the water every time.

Saints v. Ravens last year...that was so painful to watch. Forsett DESTROYED Robinson and company.

Then, of course, the QB is awesome, because they have to represent both the offense and the team's spirit, which I've always found interesting to analyze and to watch. It makes me feel good that we have Drew Brees. Gosh, I love that man. :D

I feel bad for da Bears...Jay Cutler...GOSH NO.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:00 pm

Maybe a reunion with Mariota might be the best to do. :kiss:
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:02 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:This part of the offseason is boring.

Are you kidding me? This is literally the most interesting part of the offseason. Just in the past few days, we have McCoy going to Buffalo, Foles swapped for Bradford, Julius Thomas went to Jacksonville, Brandon Marshall went to the Jets, Andre Johnson and Frank Gore both went to the Colts, Haloti Ngata was traded to Detroit, etc. If you find this boring, you're really not paying any attention at all.

I really think it is boring.
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Postby Tiami » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:24 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Are you kidding me? This is literally the most interesting part of the offseason. Just in the past few days, we have McCoy going to Buffalo, Foles swapped for Bradford, Julius Thomas went to Jacksonville, Brandon Marshall went to the Jets, Andre Johnson and Frank Gore both went to the Colts, Haloti Ngata was traded to Detroit, etc. If you find this boring, you're really not paying any attention at all.

I really think it is boring.

The only other part of the offseason is when everyone is on vacation. There are no other parts. If this part bores you, then don't pay attention to the offseason as a whole.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:36 pm

Tiami wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:I really think it is boring.

The only other part of the offseason is when everyone is on vacation. There are no other parts. If this part bores you, then don't pay attention to the offseason as a whole.

I pay attention to the draft.
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Postby Bythyrona » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:43 pm

Luminesa wrote:I would never compare Sanchez and Flacco. Sure, Flacco's inconsistent, but he's not Mr. Butt Fumble.

And it's not like prima donnas are going anywhere, soon, anyway...what, with Jameis Winston coming into the NFL, this year. :/

I know Kelly doesn't think so, but why did he sign Bradford, then?

I say Joe Flacco, because Flacco is "The Average", the perfectly middle-of-the-pack quarterback with surprising playoff results. Sanchez would be in that ballpark had he been drafted by most other teams, save for perhaps the Raiders or the Jaguars. Unlike Joe Pisarcik or Dan Orlovsky, Sanchez drug his shitty, shitty offenses to two AFC Championship Games... and all he ever got for it was being platooned with Tim Tebow and an anti-bandwagon.

Marty Schottenheimer's son and Tony Sparano (lol) as offensive coordinators. Shonn Greene (lol), a very aged LT, Santonio Holmes (notably benched for a lack of effort), Jericho Cotchery, Braylon "Ghosthands" Edwards, Matt Slauson, Vladimir Ducasse (lol), Wayne Hunter (LOL, possibly the worst offensive lineman I've ever seen). What the hell, Idzik?

Dustin Keller, Nick Mangold, Damien Woody, Brandon Moore, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson were the only players on that 2010 Jets offense, for example, worth their paycheck.

I miss the antics of those wide receivers, such as the Randy Moss phone call, the Randy Moss mooning, and Terrell Owens stomping on Dallas' star, and their prolific ability on-the-field, but nothing else about them.

Jameis Winston is a product of the talent around him and Tallahassee PD covering up his nasty habit of sexually assaulting women... I can't wait for the day he's getting his ass handed to him on a silver platter. If he goes to the Titans, I'm completely done rooting for the team until Winston is permanently benched or in prison.

...because once-in-a-generation quarterbacks aren't exactly available on the market most years? Trading for Bradford with draft picks is just dumb. Even if Sam Bradford could revive his Oklahoma magic, he's going to be completely unable to walk at this rate; he'll sooner retire for very legitimate medical reasons than do something impressive with his career. If Bradford is a backup, the Eagles gave too much away, and if Chip Kelly intends to start Bradford, he can only expect "veteran leadership" and slightly above-average competency. Trading for a quarterback doesn't somehow automatically mean that a team is trying to find The Guy to lead them to the Super Bowl.
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Postby Boomhaueristan » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:29 am

Luminesa wrote:
Boomhaueristan wrote:Indeed, Jenkins is a great safety.

The secondary positions are tied for my second favorite position, right after defensive end. That's only because I loved playing right DE in highschool, rushing some yippie qb was my second favorite thing after chasing tail.

I have a lot of established second favorites.


My favorite position is running back, just because teams like the Cowboys are gonna suffer from giving up their running game like they did (Demarco got his wings! He's an Eagle, now!) I mean, the run game is basically half the offense.

Love safeties and corners, especially considering how important they are to winning games. No secondary = people like Justin Forsett shoot you out the water every time.

Saints v. Ravens last year...that was so painful to watch. Forsett DESTROYED Robinson and company.

Then, of course, the QB is awesome, because they have to represent both the offense and the team's spirit, which I've always found interesting to analyze and to watch. It makes me feel good that we have Drew Brees. Gosh, I love that man. :D

I feel bad for da Bears...Jay Cutler...GOSH NO.

Drew Brees is a sexy man ain't he? Him and Sean Payton have so much chemistry.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:37 am

Bythyrona wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I would never compare Sanchez and Flacco. Sure, Flacco's inconsistent, but he's not Mr. Butt Fumble.

And it's not like prima donnas are going anywhere, soon, anyway...what, with Jameis Winston coming into the NFL, this year. :/

I know Kelly doesn't think so, but why did he sign Bradford, then?

I say Joe Flacco, because Flacco is "The Average", the perfectly middle-of-the-pack quarterback with surprising playoff results. Sanchez would be in that ballpark had he been drafted by most other teams, save for perhaps the Raiders or the Jaguars. Unlike Joe Pisarcik or Dan Orlovsky, Sanchez drug his shitty, shitty offenses to two AFC Championship Games... and all he ever got for it was being platooned with Tim Tebow and an anti-bandwagon.

Marty Schottenheimer's son and Tony Sparano (lol) as offensive coordinators. Shonn Greene (lol), a very aged LT, Santonio Holmes (notably benched for a lack of effort), Jericho Cotchery, Braylon "Ghosthands" Edwards, Matt Slauson, Vladimir Ducasse (lol), Wayne Hunter (LOL, possibly the worst offensive lineman I've ever seen). What the hell, Idzik?

Dustin Keller, Nick Mangold, Damien Woody, Brandon Moore, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson were the only players on that 2010 Jets offense, for example, worth their paycheck.

I miss the antics of those wide receivers, such as the Randy Moss phone call, the Randy Moss mooning, and Terrell Owens stomping on Dallas' star, and their prolific ability on-the-field, but nothing else about them.

Jameis Winston is a product of the talent around him and Tallahassee PD covering up his nasty habit of sexually assaulting women... I can't wait for the day he's getting his ass handed to him on a silver platter. If he goes to the Titans, I'm completely done rooting for the team until Winston is permanently benched or in prison.

...because once-in-a-generation quarterbacks aren't exactly available on the market most years? Trading for Bradford with draft picks is just dumb. Even if Sam Bradford could revive his Oklahoma magic, he's going to be completely unable to walk at this rate; he'll sooner retire for very legitimate medical reasons than do something impressive with his career. If Bradford is a backup, the Eagles gave too much away, and if Chip Kelly intends to start Bradford, he can only expect "veteran leadership" and slightly above-average competency. Trading for a quarterback doesn't somehow automatically mean that a team is trying to find The Guy to lead them to the Super Bowl.


Don't get me wrong, I love reading about Terrell Owens and his craziness. So many lols.

I still think Tebow could have played better than Sanchez, even with a broken rib.

I can't wait for the day Winston gets with TB and New Orleans CRUSHES him...

Just add Cameron Jordan, grab some popcorn, and watch the epic destruction.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:45 am

Boomhaueristan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
My favorite position is running back, just because teams like the Cowboys are gonna suffer from giving up their running game like they did (Demarco got his wings! He's an Eagle, now!) I mean, the run game is basically half the offense.

Love safeties and corners, especially considering how important they are to winning games. No secondary = people like Justin Forsett shoot you out the water every time.

Saints v. Ravens last year...that was so painful to watch. Forsett DESTROYED Robinson and company.

Then, of course, the QB is awesome, because they have to represent both the offense and the team's spirit, which I've always found interesting to analyze and to watch. It makes me feel good that we have Drew Brees. Gosh, I love that man. :D

I feel bad for da Bears...Jay Cutler...GOSH NO.

Drew Brees is a sexy man ain't he? Him and Sean Payton have so much chemistry.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:38 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Boomhaueristan wrote:Drew Brees is a sexy man ain't he? Him and Sean Payton have so much chemistry.

Relevant to Da Bears


Best quarterback in the NFL, in my well-founded opinion. Watching him throw that football is why I'm dying for September to roll around, again. :D

But Brees will be 35, and I'm not too confident in their defense.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:42 pm

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Postby Luminesa » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:10 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
Best quarterback in the NFL, in my well-founded opinion. Watching him throw that football is why I'm dying for September to roll around, again. :D

But Brees will be 35, and I'm not too confident in their defense.


We just got Browner and Ellerbe, sooo...it's a start! Now, we just need a corner.

(Now, does anybody wanna trade for Patrick Robinson? Anybody? Anybody who knows how to deal with one of the worst defensive busts ever?)

And Tom Brady's 37 and playing at a high level, as always. I can't see how Drew Brees can't do the same thing. :3
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Postby Osarius » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:20 am

Outer Sparta wrote:But Brees will be 35, and I'm not too confident in their defense.

You blaspheme. Breesus doesn't age.
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Postby Vilatania » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:58 am

The Jaguars have a real good shot at the Super Bowl this coming season.
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Postby The greater Vakolicci Haven » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:29 am

Vilatania wrote:The Jaguars have a real good shot at the Super Bowl this coming season.

You can't just build a team based on one draft/free agency period. It takes time for the new guys to gel in.
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