18 Year Old Girl Facing Felony for Dating 15 Year Old Girl

[Wisconsin9]

C'mon, guys, let's leave this bigot to his one-man ideological wank-fest. We've annihilated his arguments, and there's nothing more to say to him. We know we won and he knows we won, even if he won't admit it to himself, and now there's no longer any point talking to him.

[Shamshu the Defiant]

You are making it very hard to even view her with any level of respect.

If your respect for her is in any way impeded by anything I do, then you lack the basic grasp of responsibility that would be prerequisite to a meaningful understanding of deserves respect.

You can't stand her being defended by other people? That's free speech and reflects on us, not her.

Besides, quit pretending you had any respect for her at all. You had your mind made up from the beginning, you were just being disingenuous about your motives and lacked the savvy to keep it covered up for long. She's entitled to a defense, under the Constitution and under even the most basic regard for her as a human being.

Do you really not realize how starkly evident your ichor and hatred is, even here on the internet?

[Cosara]

I'm done with this shit. I am done. Cya never. You won't have to put up with me any-fucking-more.

[Aurora Novus]

De facto, no, she didn't.

It's official. You have caused a meltdown. Congratulations. You are the first person ever to cause a Cosara Meltdown.

Perfectly in line with my prediction too. You see, I understand how people work. I know them. It's kinda what I do.

Now run along. Or continue to say insane shit for my amusement. It matters little at this point. Your position has been discredited beyond belief, which is what my aims were.

I win. You lose.

[Nazi Flower Power]

The fact that she is going to be tried under the law only means that the law needs to be changed, and that she should be acquitted.

That's not how it works. Acquitting or convicting someone is not a judgement of their morality; it's a judgement of whether they violated the law. Unless the law is ruled unconstitutional, it can't be changed retroactively. Therefore, she should not be acquitted unless it somehow comes out that the sex never happened.

Of course, even if someone is convicted, you still have a lot of flexibility how to proceed from there. People can be pardoned, sentences commuted, records expunged, etc.

But you have to try people according to the law as written. That's what makes written laws different from mob rule. The law was on the books and this young woman chose not to obey it. If she didn't like the law, she should have done something to get it changed BEFORE going against it. I don't think the law is necessarily perfect, but if someone makes a decision to do something that is illegal, they need to be prepared to accept the risks and possible consequences that go with that. It's the same here as it is with marijuana. Yes, the law is unnecessarily strict, but it's still your own fault if you break the law and get caught.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I'm done with this shit. I am done. Cya never. You won't have to put up with me any-fucking-more.

You'll be back.

[Shamshu the Defiant]

The fact that she is going to be tried under the law only means that the law needs to be changed, and that she should be acquitted.

That's not how it works. Acquitting or convicting someone is not a judgement of their morality; it's a judgement of whether they violated the law. Unless the law is ruled unconstitutional, it can't be changed retroactively. Therefore, she should not be acquitted unless it somehow comes out that the sex never happened.

Of course, even if someone is convicted, you still have a lot of flexibility how to proceed from there. People can be pardoned, sentences commuted, records expunged, etc.

But you have to try people according to the law as written. That's what makes written laws different from mob rule. The law was on the books and this young woman chose not to obey it. If she didn't like the law, she should have done something to get it changed BEFORE going against it. I don't think the law is necessarily perfect, but if someone makes a decision to do something that is illegal, they need to be prepared to accept the risks and possible consequences that go with that. It's the same here as it is with marijuana. Yes, the law is unnecessarily strict, but it's still your own fault if you break the law and get caught.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Gandhi, MLK, and underage lesbians. It's the hat-trick of civil disobedience and damn worth the shitty prison food.

Wish I had the sand of any those people.

[Pravengria]

Editor’s Note: This story has been updated to reflect the alleged victim’s age was 14 at the time of the incidents, according to the arrest record and Indian River County Sheriff Deryl Loar.

By that statement, the Girl would've been 17, dating a 14 year old. They both consented. The girl was under 18 at the time which if I remember right, keeps her from being charged as an adult considering both consented and she wasnt legally an adult yet. And it seems to me that there is some definite homophobia backing the case. :/

[Resora]

Cosara has been posting in this thread near non-stop since I opened it on the 19th, repeating the same shit over and over without the slightest bit of variation. He'll be back.

[Rotburg]

I think it's a ridiculous law. If someone is just 3 years younger than you, it's not a crime. Just because you turn 18, it doesn't give you this supreme super power or something. You don't evolve like some Pokemon. I'm much more concerned about much older people going after kids. It's not like the 18 year old is a pedo.

You're right. It all stems from homophobia. The only reason it makes such an impact in the law is because of homophobia.

[Cosara]

It's official. You have caused a meltdown. Congratulations. You are the first person ever to cause a Cosara Meltdown.

Perfectly in line with my prediction too. You see, I understand how people work. I know them. It's kinda what I do.

Now run along. Or continue to say insane shit for my amusement. It matters little at this point. Your position has been discredited beyond belief, which is what my aims were.

I win. You lose.

Since I quit NS, I can do something you can't do.

Peace out, motherfuckers.

[Pravengria]

I think it's a ridiculous law. If someone is just 3 years younger than you, it's not a crime. Just because you turn 18, it doesn't give you this supreme super power or something. You don't evolve like some Pokemon. I'm much more concerned about much older people going after kids. It's not like the 18 year old is a pedo.

You're right. It all stems from homophobia. The only reason it makes such an impact in the law is because of homophobia.

And chances are, they didn't have an issue with it while she was 17.

[Resora]

Perfectly in line with my prediction too. You see, I understand how people work. I know them. It's kinda what I do.

Now run along. Or continue to say insane shit for my amusement. It matters little at this point. Your position has been discredited beyond belief, which is what my aims were.

I win. You lose.

Since I quit NS, I can do something you can't do.

Peace out, motherfuckers.

Oh damn, nicely done Aurora.

[Nazi Flower Power]

That's not how it works. Acquitting or convicting someone is not a judgement of their morality; it's a judgement of whether they violated the law. Unless the law is ruled unconstitutional, it can't be changed retroactively. Therefore, she should not be acquitted unless it somehow comes out that the sex never happened.

Of course, even if someone is convicted, you still have a lot of flexibility how to proceed from there. People can be pardoned, sentences commuted, records expunged, etc.

But you have to try people according to the law as written. That's what makes written laws different from mob rule. The law was on the books and this young woman chose not to obey it. If she didn't like the law, she should have done something to get it changed BEFORE going against it. I don't think the law is necessarily perfect, but if someone makes a decision to do something that is illegal, they need to be prepared to accept the risks and possible consequences that go with that. It's the same here as it is with marijuana. Yes, the law is unnecessarily strict, but it's still your own fault if you break the law and get caught.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Gandhi, MLK, and underage lesbians. It's the hat-trick of civil disobedience and damn worth the shitty prison food.

Wish I had the sand of any those people.

I personally think this is an issue where waiting a couple of months would have been the more sensible course of action. Being forced to keep it in your pants for a few months is nowhere near the level of injustice that people were facing in British-occupied India or the segregated US.

But to each her own.

[Frisivisia]

Since I quit NS, I can do something you can't do.

Peace out, motherfuckers.

Oh damn, nicely done Aurora.

Don't gloat.

[Shamshu the Defiant]

I personally think this is an issue where waiting a couple of months would have been the more sensible course of action. Being forced to keep it in your pants for a few months is nowhere near the level of injustice that people were facing in British-occupied India or the segregated US.

But to each her own.

I was trying to infer precisely that difference in the order of magnitude between the situations, but I'm extremely bad at making that kind of thing clear. My bad.

[Frisivisia]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Gandhi, MLK, and underage lesbians. It's the hat-trick of civil disobedience and damn worth the shitty prison food.

Wish I had the sand of any those people.

I personally think this is an issue where waiting a couple of months would have been the more sensible course of action. Being forced to keep it in your pants for a few months is nowhere near the level of injustice that people were facing in British-occupied India or the segregated US.

But to each her own.

They shouldn't have to. Injustice is injustice, and now this girl is a felon for consensual sex.

[Yankee Empire]

I personally think this is an issue where waiting a couple of months would have been the more sensible course of action. Being forced to keep it in your pants for a few months is nowhere near the level of injustice that people were facing in British-occupied India or the segregated US.

But to each her own.

They shouldn't have to. Injustice is injustice, and now this girl is a felon for consensual sex.

She broke the law, the only reason people are bitching about this is because they think it's homophobic.

[Resora]

I personally think this is an issue where waiting a couple of months would have been the more sensible course of action. Being forced to keep it in your pants for a few months is nowhere near the level of injustice that people were facing in British-occupied India or the segregated US.

But to each her own.

They shouldn't have to. Injustice is injustice, and now this girl is a felon for consensual sex.

Worse, actually, as even if she manages to evade SO registration a sexual assault felony is just about the worst kind possible to have on your record.

[Wisconsin9]

They shouldn't have to. Injustice is injustice, and now this girl is a felon for consensual sex.

She broke the law, the only reason peopel are bitching about this is because they think it's homophobic.

No, we're bitching about it because it's a fucking stupid law.

[Resora]

They shouldn't have to. Injustice is injustice, and now this girl is a felon for consensual sex.

She broke the law, the only reason peopel are bitching about this is because they think it's homophobic.

Repeating bullshit doesn't make it not bullshit.

[Pravengria]

After thinking and reviewing, I'd say she shouldn't be charged. It seems too circumstantial. Due to the fact they both consented, they're only three years apart. And were dating before the one became a legal adult. It seems a bit odd to not do anything until the girl then turns 18, for something she allegedly did before hand. As far as the law goes, should it be abolished? No, but I think that cases should be done by a case by case basis, and they should take into account how them being lesbians affects the decision, as well as the age, when they started dating, and how old they were regarding the act.

[Frisivisia]

They shouldn't have to. Injustice is injustice, and now this girl is a felon for consensual sex.

She broke the law, the only reason peopel are bitching about this is because they think it's homophobic.

People sitting at whites only lunch counters were breaking the law, but people were only bitching because they thought it was racist, right?

Injustice is injustice, and this is injustice.

[Yankee Empire]

She broke the law, the only reason peopel are bitching about this is because they think it's homophobic.

No, we're bitching about it because it's a fucking stupid law.

Keep bitching then. Teachers shouldn't be having sex with students anyway, aren't their restrictions against that? Even if she wasn't underaged.

[Wisconsin9]

No, we're bitching about it because it's a fucking stupid law.

Keep bitching then. Teachers shouldn't be havign sex with sutdents anyway, aren't their restrictions against that? Even if she wasn't underaged.

It wasn't a teacher, it was another student.