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Do you support the death penalty

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Postby Esparmuran » Thu May 16, 2013 2:15 pm

Although I remain neutral on the DP, I don't see why life in prison can't be a substitute.
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Postby United Paradisia » Thu May 16, 2013 2:19 pm

Esparmuran wrote:Although I remain neutral on the DP, I don't see why life in prison can't be a substitute.

Waste of money and liberals will use their political power to edit laws so they can get out early on parole.
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Postby Esparmuran » Thu May 16, 2013 2:22 pm

United Paradisia wrote:
Esparmuran wrote:Although I remain neutral on the DP, I don't see why life in prison can't be a substitute.

Waste of money and liberals will use their political power to edit laws so they can get out early on parole.


I suppose.
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Postby Redemption-America » Thu May 16, 2013 2:26 pm

The state of Ohio recently executed a man who raped his six month old daughter to death. Its horrific actions like that that make me glad there is a death penalty.
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Postby Anarchadom » Thu May 16, 2013 2:27 pm

Every human being has the right to live, and the right of a second chance.

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Postby Bretzelstan » Thu May 16, 2013 2:27 pm

Yes.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu May 16, 2013 2:29 pm

No, I do not support the death penalty. Wrongdoers ought to have the chance to repent and be allowed the opportunity to attempt to reform themselves.
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Postby Britannia I » Thu May 16, 2013 2:30 pm

Don't really feel like arguing my case...Yes I support the Death Penalty

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Postby United Paradisia » Thu May 16, 2013 2:31 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:No, I do not support the death penalty. Wrongdoers ought to have the chance to repent and be allowed the opportunity to attempt to reform themselves.

Depends for murder, they could repent. For mass geniuses rape drug trafficking, war crimes, etc it would be much easier to shoot them in the face.
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Postby Rome and Italy » Thu May 16, 2013 2:36 pm

I believe that if someone can walk out of their home with the only intention of killing an innocent person they shouldn't be guaranteed that their life will not be taken .

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Postby Othelos » Thu May 16, 2013 9:31 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:No, I do not support the death penalty. Wrongdoers ought to have the chance to repent and be allowed the opportunity to attempt to reform themselves.

Plus, it's immoral to kill people.

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Postby Frisivisia » Thu May 16, 2013 9:37 pm

Redemption-America wrote:The state of Ohio recently executed a man who raped his six month old daughter to death. Its horrific actions like that that make me glad there is a death penalty.

Why, what does his death accomplish? What if he was innocent?
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Postby Cosara » Thu May 16, 2013 10:58 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Redemption-America wrote:The state of Ohio recently executed a man who raped his six month old daughter to death. Its horrific actions like that that make me glad there is a death penalty.

Why, what does his death accomplish? What if he was innocent?

They obviously had enough evidence to get him executed.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 11:48 pm

Totally against. We shouldn't forcibly end the lives of others against their will. Numerous amounts of executed are later found to have been actually innocent, and it's more expensive than imprisonment.
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Postby Karelo-Finnish SSR » Thu May 16, 2013 11:51 pm

Of course, but only if the criminal was proven guilty of a crime that justifies capital punishment.
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Postby Karelo-Finnish SSR » Thu May 16, 2013 11:53 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Redemption-America wrote:The state of Ohio recently executed a man who raped his six month old daughter to death. Its horrific actions like that that make me glad there is a death penalty.

Why, what does his death accomplish? What if he was innocent?

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Postby Arumdaum » Fri May 17, 2013 12:05 am

Karelo-Finnish SSR wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Why, what does his death accomplish? What if he was innocent?

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Many people who've been put to death were later found to be innocent.
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Postby Dusk_Kittens » Fri May 17, 2013 12:10 am

In theory, yes, but only for the most extreme crimes.
In practice, no, because I don't believe "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" is possible via empiricism.
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Postby Immoren » Fri May 17, 2013 12:12 am

Obamacult wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote:No because it immorally wrong except in extreme cases such as murder.



Empirical research confirms that the death penalty saves innocent lives.

To reject it is to subject innocent people to violent horrific death.

Is that moral ???

Life is a prison, death is release.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat May 18, 2013 12:30 pm

Jassysworth 1 wrote:It's just... gotta be done I mean.

Some criminals should be executed... because what they did was that bad. Plus life imprisonment wastes the resources of the state on keeping him alive... We should also cut red tape to make the appeal process after getting the death sentence A LOT (LOT LOT LOT) faster and less costly.

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Obamacult wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote:No because it immorally wrong except in extreme cases such as murder.



Empirical research confirms that the death penalty saves innocent lives.

To reject it is to subject innocent people to violent horrific death.

Is that moral ???

Not as much as making up bullshit....
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Christian Democrats wrote:No, I do not support the death penalty. Wrongdoers ought to have the chance to repent and be allowed the opportunity to attempt to reform themselves.

Depends for murder, they could repent. For mass geniuses

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rape

...is not as permanent or severe as homicide, and should not draw it.
drug trafficking,

...isn't immoral at all, and should not draw any penalty.
war crimes, etc it would be much easier to shoot them in the face.

After.... ?

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat May 18, 2013 12:39 pm

Anarchadom wrote:Every human being has the right to live, and the right of a second chance.

Rapists, pedos, and murders don't deserve a second chance.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sat May 18, 2013 12:40 pm

We have a deplorable habit of killing innocent people in the name of justice.

The police, the DA, the judge and jury often declare staunchly that yes, this man (overwhelmingly it is a man, women are too innocent by nature to deserve death, we feel) must die.

Then it turns out they were all wrong.

The Innocence Project started out in Illinois but now many other states have similar efforts. The results show that it is hot or miss whether those we designate for death ever truly deserve it.

So let's just not. By the time the defendant is dead, it's too late to say "oops!"
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sat May 18, 2013 1:25 pm

For treason, murderers, pedophiles and rapists.

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Postby Salandriagado » Sat May 18, 2013 1:31 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Anarchadom wrote:Every human being has the right to live, and the right of a second chance.

Rapists, pedos, and murders don't deserve a second chance.


What about innocent people wrongly convicted of the above?
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Sat May 18, 2013 1:33 pm

Pope Joan wrote:We have a deplorable habit of killing innocent people in the name of justice.

The police, the DA, the judge and jury often declare staunchly that yes, this man (overwhelmingly it is a man, women are too innocent by nature to deserve death, we feel) must die.

Then it turns out they were all wrong.

The Innocence Project started out in Illinois but now many other states have similar efforts. The results show that it is hot or miss whether those we designate for death ever truly deserve it.

So let's just not. By the time the defendant is dead, it's too late to say "oops!"


My father actually works closely with the Innocence Project in California, as a matter of fact. Does fantastic work.

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