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Regarding Reincarnation

Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:08 pm

So NS, what do you think happens when you die?

I think that when we die we are reincarnated into the next sentient thing born- whether human or otherwise- in the universe. The time between death and rebirth feels instantaneous. Also upon your souls reentry into a new body, the old memory is wiped.
This process doesn't adhere to morality, thus you won't necessarily be reborn as a beggar if you were evil in your last life. Instead the process is likely totally random and divided into stages.
Although memory doesn't transcend this process, it's quite likely that all bodies inhabited by the same soul have certain mental and psychological characteristics, such as an interest in politics or inherent boldness.

1-Death. Final cessation of consciousness within the old body.
2-Memory Wipe
3-Your soul is sent to a cosmic waiting area.
4-Souls enter a newly born sentient being in order based on who died first.
5-Consciousness within the new body.
6-After 0-120 years: Repeat.

Thus, it is my postulation that everyone here has likely lived multiple lives but doesn't remember any of them. It is perfectly possible that one of us may have the reincarnated soul of such individuals such as Hitler or Lincoln.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm

Okay, for what reason do you believe in reincarnation and why do you believe it would function in this particular manner as opposed to other theories about it?
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Postby Alyekra » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm

Why would you think this?

The ninja asked it better.
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Postby Aeternally » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm

And not a single citation was given that day.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm

Now provide even the smallest sliver of evidence, or I'll just go leave on my invisible pink unicorn.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:15 pm

Threlizdun wrote:Okay, for what reason do you believe in reincarnation and why do you believe it would function in this particular manner as opposed to other theories about it?


It makes sense. More sense then heaven or hell anyway. The universe isn't defined by morality and thus death/birth is likely a randomized process.
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Postby Yestonia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:15 pm

Are you of the opinion that an individual can learn of their past lives through a psychic medium?
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Postby Aeternally » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:15 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Okay, for what reason do you believe in reincarnation and why do you believe it would function in this particular manner as opposed to other theories about it?


It makes sense. More sense then heaven or hell anyway. The universe isn't defined by morality and thus death/birth is likely a randomized process.


Why?

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Postby Aeternally » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:15 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:Now provide even the smallest sliver of evidence, or I'll just go leave on my invisible pink unicorn.


Is there room for two, fellow sceptic?

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Postby Volnotova » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:16 pm

I certainly don't remember.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:16 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Okay, for what reason do you believe in reincarnation and why do you believe it would function in this particular manner as opposed to other theories about it?


It makes sense. More sense then heaven or hell anyway. The universe isn't defined by morality and thus death/birth is likely a randomized process.

What makes more sense is the idea that there is no reincarnation. That what we observe is actually what we observe.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:17 pm

Yestonia wrote:Are you of the opinion that an individual can learn of their past lives through a psychic medium?


I'm unsure. It's possible I suppose that little hints of your old life can be found deep in your subconscious (like shared phobias, etc)
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Postby Alyekra » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:18 pm

Where did "Souls" come from in your godless postulation?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:18 pm

What, precisely, is the point of believing in reincarnation if you carry nothing memorable from your past life?

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:19 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
It makes sense. More sense then heaven or hell anyway. The universe isn't defined by morality and thus death/birth is likely a randomized process.

What makes more sense is the idea that there is no reincarnation. That what we observe is actually what we observe.


I'm not denying that what we observe is real. Only that we will forget it once we die.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:21 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:What makes more sense is the idea that there is no reincarnation. That what we observe is actually what we observe.


I'm not denying that what we observe is real. Only that we will forget it once we die.

I was a bit cautious there because you hadn't made that post with even more bullshit yet.
What I meant by that is that we can observe the effects of modifications to the brain. Brain injuries affect personality. Having parts of the brain removed affect you.
Now, please, explain how something like a fear of heights is magically transported from a decomposing brain to a newly born person's.
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Postby Yestonia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:21 pm

Must a soul which once inhabited a human body be transferred to another human body, or is it possible it could find itself in another creature?
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:23 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
I'm not denying that what we observe is real. Only that we will forget it once we die.

I was a bit cautious there because you hadn't made that post with even more bullshit yet.
What I meant by that is that we can observe the effects of modifications to the brain. Brain injuries affect personality. Having parts of the brain removed affect you.
Now, please, explain how something like a fear of heights is magically transported from a decomposing brain to a newly born person's.


Assuming both individuals share the same soul and have no brain damage, it seems perfectly possible that the may share certain personality traits.

Some opinions are formed in our upbringing, but not everything.
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Postby Avenio » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:23 pm

Pointless superstition. There is no life after death.

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Postby Aeternally » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:24 pm

Avenio wrote:Pointless superstition. There is no life after death.


I don't see how you can make that claim, given our epistemological position.

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:24 pm

Yestonia wrote:Must a soul which once inhabited a human body be transferred to another human body, or is it possible it could find itself in another creature?


The soul may inhabit another creature, as long as said creature displays sentience.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:25 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:I'm not denying that what we observe is real. Only that we will forget it once we die.

And why does the idea that we are reincarnated following this forgetfullness make more sense than the idea that we simply cease to exist?
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:25 pm

Kinda important question, what is a soul?
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:26 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Yestonia wrote:Must a soul which once inhabited a human body be transferred to another human body, or is it possible it could find itself in another creature?


The soul may inhabit another creature, as long as said creature displays sentience.

And how do you know this? You said we forget everything, so where are you getting this from?
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:27 pm

Avenio wrote:Pointless superstition. There is no life after death.


True. It will always appear that way. All life will perpetually feel like it is occurring before death, since memory is wiped after each lifespan is complete.
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