Obama worst Socialist ever!

[Bering]

and let's throw in Jewish Banker just to be safe

And Martian probe operator.

did we say Satanist?

[Bering]

Forgot Zionist slave

And Mafia don.

and a black panther

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

And Mafia don.

and a black panther

And Ku Klux Klan member.

But seriously this is a thread jack let us stop.

[Saruhan]

And Mafia don.

and a black panther

Confucian Cult leader

[Herrebrugh]

And Mafia don.

and a black panther

Oh, and a Frenchman.

[Sibirsky]

Solyndra, First Solar, Serious Windows...

While Romney's camp would include guys like Raytheon, KBR, SAIC, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumann, Lockheed Martin...

There do seem to be a quite a few corporations seeking to batten on the Treasury, come hail rain or shine, don't there?

Hi, Sib

Also, the amounts of money do seem to be different - Obama didn't propose giving $2trn in money above & beyond the requested budgets to anyone, let alone the corporations.

Hi NC

Long time no talk. Of course, I am not on NSG much anymore. Hope everything is well with you.

Aye, different amounts, different industries, etc.

[Bering]

and a black panther

Oh, and a Frenchman.

and Russian! and Chinese! and Canadian!!!!!!!!!!

[Gauthier]

and a black panther

Oh, and a Frenchman.

Anyone call Obama a Klingon yet?

[The Irradiated Chernobyl]

Obama is a socialist, that's for certain.

Prove it, please.

So let's ignore 4 years of down down down?

Ok.

Compared to Bush...

Obviously you can't fix the economy within 4 years whenever you've had terrible economic fuck-ups in the past. However, the average gas price when Bushie left office was ~$1.78. Skip ahead 4 years, now it's ~$3.60.

Let's move away from economics for now. Why the hell does Obama want to grant illegal immigrants amnesty? Is that the answer to everything, just do the opposite? "Hey, they're illegals! They're now American citizens!" Seriously. Especially with his drunk uncle Omar, so we'll see how that turns out on the 3rd..

"Gun control". Obama really believes that the Second was created for hunting? Did he not graduate high school, and learn about the American Revolution? Two rather interesting reasons for the revolution: high taxes (check) and attempted firearm confiscation (possible). The Second amendment was created for the protection of the people from tyranny. Genocide, totalitarianism, etc. has all started with gun control or confiscation. These so called "assault rifles" aren't the problem with the recent shootings, but it's mental health, specifically psychiatric medications. If you want to see what I mean, look at this: http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/. Why should the government be trusted with an AR15, but not a civilian? And before you say it, YES, ordinary civilians do need an AR15 if they want one.

I'm going to borrow the Lib's mindset here when it comes to abortion: "Don't get one if you don't want to." Let's apply that to firearms..

[Stedicules]

he's a bad socialist because he's not even a socialist, so...

[Saruhan]

Oh, and a Frenchman.

Anyone call Obama a Klingon yet?

Well they have now

[Sailsia]

And you forgot Zoroastrian terrorist. And Buddhist genocider. And a woman.

Forgot Zionist slave

I do have that one, actually. Of course, somehow I missed him being an Alien Lizard that eats fetuses provided by Planned Parenthood.

[Herrebrugh]

Oh, and a Frenchman.

Anyone call Obama a Klingon yet?

And a crab person. Or whatever the singular to crab people is.

[Saruhan]

Forgot Zionist slave

I do have that one, actually. Of course, somehow I missed him being an Alien Lizard that eats fetuses provided by Planned Parenthood.

Nice, should have known someone would take what I was going to say.

[New Chalcedon]

nip

As Bill Maher said, "They (GOP) seemed to have been inside a bubble from 2001 till 2009, when that bubbled popped they couldn't understand who had caused all this, they looked at Obama ...YOU...THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!"

He is right, under Bush the debt increased from $4.9T to over $10T, he came into office with a $400B surplus and soon turned that into a 1.2T deficit (remember the 2009 budget is Bush's not Obamas' like Fox make you think). Also under Bush the entire world expect for China hated our guts, now many nations see the US positively expect for China and the nutty dictatorships.

A lot of this is true. However, some of it is unwarranted:

(1) Bush is not entirely responsible for the deficit. Besides the truism that no President is totally responsible for the deficit (he may only collect taxes or revenues as determined by Congress, and must spend money as ordered by Congress, after all), Bush's policies are only partially responsible for the change in fiscal outlook from 2001 to 2009.

(2) Bush was actually quite popular in an entire region of the world - Africa. This is mostly due to one of the few things I'm willing to admit he got right - he substantially increased both aid and funding for anti-disease research aimed at stopping epidemics before they leave Africa. It's one area of policy where Obama could actually stand to learn from his predecessor.

[New Chalcedon]

There do seem to be a quite a few corporations seeking to batten on the Treasury, come hail rain or shine, don't there?

Hi, Sib

Also, the amounts of money do seem to be different - Obama didn't propose giving $2trn in money above & beyond the requested budgets to anyone, let alone the corporations.

Hi NC

Long time no talk. Of course, I am not on NSG much anymore. Hope everything is well with you.

Well enough - and yourself? Keeping busy, or just sick of NSG?

[Democratic Republic of Sapientia]

Obama is definitely a socialist. He is plunging the country into debt with programs such as Obamacare. People need to pay for their own healthcare instead of using taxpayer money. Socialism doesn't work, it is theft.

First off, Obamacare is not a socialist policy, it does not institute universal healthcare or a single payer option so no one would be using taxpayer money when it becomes law. Secondly you seem to assert that because the economy is bad Obama is a socialist, even if Obama has made the economy worse it is ridiculous to imply that you need to be a socialist to hurt the economy. No, Obama is a capitalist and corporatist through and through and because he supports some socially liberal policies and pays lip servace to progressives he is falsely labeled a socialist.

[Liriena]

Obama is definitely a socialist. He is plunging the country into debt with programs such as Obamacare. People need to pay for their own healthcare instead of using taxpayer money. Socialism doesn't work, it is theft.

I don't see the correlation between the first sentence and the rest of your post.

Have you ever read Marx's work?

[Seangoli]

Speaking of dwelling in fantasies. . . .

Do you honestly believe that all that spending on the stimulus just didn't happen, and the buying of those companies. . .and that healthcare bill?

Do you want me to honestly believe that?

Er...

I remember this quite clearly. That stimulus bill was voted in under the Bush administration in fall of 08', although it was largely enacted by the Obama administration as these things take time. So... yeah...

[New Chalcedon]

Obama is definitely a socialist. He is plunging the country into debt with programs such as Obamacare. People need to pay for their own healthcare instead of using taxpayer money. Socialism doesn't work, it is theft.

I don't see the correlation between the first sentence and the rest of your post.

Have you ever read Marx's work?

Not to mention that the second sentence is an outright lie - the deficit is lower than the day Obama took office, and Obamacare specifically is projected to cut deficits when it's fully enacted.

[Gideus]

It's probably been said but yes he is a very bad socialist. Perhaps because he isn't one.

[Saruhan]

As Bill Maher said, "They (GOP) seemed to have been inside a bubble from 2001 till 2009, when that bubbled popped they couldn't understand who had caused all this, they looked at Obama ...YOU...THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!"

He is right, under Bush the debt increased from $4.9T to over $10T, he came into office with a $400B surplus and soon turned that into a 1.2T deficit (remember the 2009 budget is Bush's not Obamas' like Fox make you think). Also under Bush the entire world expect for China hated our guts, now many nations see the US positively expect for China and the nutty dictatorships.

A lot of this is true. However, some of it is unwarranted:

(1) Bush is not entirely responsible for the deficit. Besides the truism that no President is totally responsible for the deficit (he may only collect taxes or revenues as determined by Congress, and must spend money as ordered by Congress, after all), Bush's policies are only partially responsible for the change in fiscal outlook from 2001 to 2009.

(2) Bush was actually quite popular in an entire region of the world - Africa. This is mostly due to one of the few things I'm willing to admit he got right - he substantially increased both aid and funding for anti-disease research aimed at stopping epidemics before they leave Africa. It's one area of policy where Obama could actually stand to learn from his predecessor.

Yeah, but if he did that you know the Tealiban would say "Bias on the count of Negric Brotherhood!" and stupid shit like that

[The Huskar Social Union]

It's probably been said but yes he is a very bad socialist. Perhaps because he isn't one.

Just about to say this, so seconded. Its common sense really.

[Williamson]

he is not a solictlist. we can end the topic now

[Acrainia]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.