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Carsonalia
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:50 pm

Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
"Yeah

I was a child

Those fuckers too advantage of my childishness to amuse themselves and harmed me in the process. What top quality people they were"


It's the internet. A moralless, unhindering beast that does things for its own self-amusement.

Be wary.


Lets bring this victim blaming culture out into the real world. It's such a great thing.

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Postby Oterro » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:50 pm

Carsonalia wrote:"Yeah

I was a child

Those fuckers too advantage of my childishness to amuse themselves and harmed me in the process. What top quality people they were"

i don't think ''you're a child'' is enough of an excuse for self harm in the name of a pop star. ever really. unless we're talking ''too young to grasp the ramifications of mutilating yourself''.

Outside that no, it's really just being a fucking idiot.
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:50 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
"Yeah

I was a child

Those fuckers too advantage of my childishness to amuse themselves and harmed me in the process. What top quality people they were"

"Yeah

I was a child

WHERE THE FUCK WERE MY PARENTS/GUARDIANS AND WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NOT DO THEIR GOD DAMN JOBS?"


It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

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Postby Takaram » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

My first reaction to hearing this is wondering where the idea to cut came from. I mean, cutting hasn't been much of a thing since I was in middle school. Now that I know 4chan is involved, I can hardly claim surprise.

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Postby Nicer potlimitomaha » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I personally think it's hilarious that people honestly decided to cut themselves because some guys on 4chan started a rumour than Bieber smoked weed.

Absolutely brilliant.


I don't think self-harm is ever funny.

I must just have no sense of humour.



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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
"Yeah

I was a child

Those fuckers too advantage of my childishness to amuse themselves and harmed me in the process. What top quality people they were"


It's the internet. A moralless, unhindering beast that does things for its own self-amusement.

Be wary.


Welcome to the internet. It's a wide ocean of darkness, with only small spots of light and sanity. Nationstates is one of them, maybe, sometimes.
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Postby Azrael » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Self-harm isn't funny, guys. The fact that fangirls are willing to bring themselves to this is highly disconcerting, though.
If nothing exists, where did this anger come from?

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Postby Oterro » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Carsonalia wrote:It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

Oh of course it is.

It's the perpetrator of self harm's fault that self harm was inflicted.
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
It's the internet. A moralless, unhindering beast that does things for its own self-amusement.

Be wary.


Lets bring this victim blaming culture out into the real world. It's such a great thing.


Let's not do that. When the internet comes into the real world, things tend to escalate incredibly quickly.
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Postby The Corparation » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Oterro wrote:in 20 years time they'll look back on their scars and think

''yeah

that was good

i am an intelligent human being''

Or not because this is a joke and not an actual trend. Most of the pictures people posted are just lifted from google image search.
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Oterro wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:"Yeah

I was a child

Those fuckers too advantage of my childishness to amuse themselves and harmed me in the process. What top quality people they were"

i don't think ''you're a child'' is enough of an excuse for self harm in the name of a pop star. ever really. unless we're talking ''too young to grasp the ramifications of mutilating yourself''.

Outside that no, it's really just being a fucking idiot.


Yeah but from what I can see you're the misanthropic type that might hold everyone to stupid standards rather than accepting variations in logical and emotional maturity as age progresses

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Neo Arcad wrote:
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
It's the internet. A moralless, unhindering beast that does things for its own self-amusement.

Be wary.


Welcome to the internet. It's a wide ocean of darkness, with only small spots of light and sanity. Nationstates is one of them, maybe, sometimes.


Sometimes.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:"Yeah

I was a child

WHERE THE FUCK WERE MY PARENTS/GUARDIANS AND WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NOT DO THEIR GOD DAMN JOBS?"


It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

I do not blame the knife for cutting the flesh. I do not blame the hand wielding the knife to cut the flesh. I blame the obvious lack of mature oversight that has contributed to a culture where people feel we can, without fault or flaw, abstain from parenting our children.

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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:"Yeah

I was a child

WHERE THE FUCK WERE MY PARENTS/GUARDIANS AND WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NOT DO THEIR GOD DAMN JOBS?"


It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.


Image
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NSLV wrote:Introducing the new political text from acclaimed author/yak, NEO ARCAD, an exploration of nuclear power in the Middle East and Asia, "Nuclear Penis: He Won't Call You Again".

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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Azrael wrote:Self-harm isn't funny, guys. The fact that fangirls are willing to bring themselves to this is highly disconcerting, though.

Maybe they'll lose enough blood to halucinate and realize how retarded they are.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

only when NSG says so

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Azrael
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Postby Azrael » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Calimera II wrote:No 9gag is way better

nononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononono

9gag is a harboring for brain-dead, humorless trash and internet waste, even compared to 4chan.
If nothing exists, where did this anger come from?

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Carsonalia
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Oterro wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

Oh of course it is.

It's the perpetrator of self harm's fault that self harm was inflicted.


And when an elderly person is duped out of their money by con artists they're to blame. The con artist shouldn't fear any punishment or blame.

And when someone is talked into a dangerous procedure by their doctor with little to no information about the process it's entirely their fault and the doctor should be free to go.

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Jagalonia
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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:
Welcome to the internet. It's a wide ocean of darkness, with only small spots of light and sanity. Nationstates is one of them, maybe, sometimes.


Sometimes.

We're working on that one.
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
Ifreann wrote:
Computer Land wrote:I don't want someone hacking my fridge :meh:

fridge.setTempC(100);
sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
I'm Amish...Problem?
Unsigable. >.>
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All tech.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
Oterro wrote:i don't think ''you're a child'' is enough of an excuse for self harm in the name of a pop star. ever really. unless we're talking ''too young to grasp the ramifications of mutilating yourself''.

Outside that no, it's really just being a fucking idiot.


Yeah but from what I can see you're the misanthropic type that might hold everyone to stupid standards rather than accepting variations in logical and emotional maturity as age progresses

You still fail to understand that there was a complete failure of everything at the level of the person doing the self-harm and the parent of that person, and presumably the fanculture that pop music since the 1970s or so has generated.

The fact that random groups of people on the internet have to power to do shit like this is testament to how fucking thick the west is as a society.
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Carsonalia
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Neo Arcad wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.


Image


Excellent input.

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Is Marijuana really so bad?

Postby Transvestitia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:54 pm

I can understand that many see drugs as a terrible substance but thinking about it, Justin has had it tough. Most of the male population has been sending him hatemail and slighting him. JUst because he is better looking than them. He has just broken up with his gf. Looking at it like this I think we should support Justin in his move to ease his troubles out of his life in an easy and safe environment. Its not as if hes taking coke or anything. In fact I think we should support the use of cannabis for those with depression - they use it in hospitals for those with major pain illnesses so it could even be beneficial for JB.

Therefore I think the whole idea of cutting yourself just to persuade Justin to quit shows how much you actually hate him. He needs this at the moment. Compare his life to that of say Jonny Depp then we see how difficult his life is. He is a slave to his job. He works so hard to bring us joy with his beautiful music and such great messages. It breaks my heart.

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Carsonalia
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
Yeah but from what I can see you're the misanthropic type that might hold everyone to stupid standards rather than accepting variations in logical and emotional maturity as age progresses

You still fail to understand that there was a complete failure of everything at the level of the person doing the self-harm and the parent of that person, and presumably the fanculture that pop music since the 1970s or so has generated.


Nope i'm willing to accept that parents have a role here but i'm not into the kind of complete blame shifting that others are all about.

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Postby Alvalero » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Cut4bieber sounds like some sort of charity event like 'Shave or Dye'.

Its sad that people cut their wrists for this but, it brings a smile(and :palm: ) to my face to see Idiocracy alive and well :lol:
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Postby Azrael » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Carsonalia wrote:It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

"yo man, you should totally beat those elderly people over there"
"okay"

The perpetrator is the one who carries out the action. Simply telling someone to do something without any forceful persuasion doesn't make them the perpetrator, however, the fact that it results in harmful actions is possibly liable to get them in trouble.
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