FBI documents reveal plans to assassinate OWS activists

[Wisconsin9]

I did read the word assassination. But in order for it to be established that the FBI was responsible—assuming they actually did carry out a series of assassinations—the assassins would first have to be caught, or at the very least identified. If they planned it decently, then they'd never even been seen, thus the government's role in the assassinations would never be revealed. There would be conspiracy theories, yes, but it would be like the theories that the CIA killed Kennedy.

So what? Doesn't have to be proven that the government is performing the assassinations for the shitstorm to occur. Assassinations are leagues above crackdowns in terms of seriousness.

A crackdown, especially like the one described, would be incredibly obvious. The whole point of assassinations is that they're covert. It would be relatively easy to have FBI assassinations passed off as activity by non-government aligned groups.

[Gauthier]

So what? Doesn't have to be proven that the government is performing the assassinations for the shitstorm to occur. Assassinations are leagues above crackdowns in terms of seriousness.

A crackdown, especially like the one described, would be incredibly obvious. The whole point of assassinations is that they're covert. It would be relatively easy to have FBI assassinations passed off as activity by non-government aligned groups.

Cracking down on OWS is like calling VeggieTales graphically violent and mature.

[Tubbsalot]

It would be relatively easy to have FBI assassinations passed off as activity by non-government aligned groups.

Yes, and what I'm saying is it wouldn't matter whether it was performed by a non-governmental group. An assassination would mean a shitstorm regardless.

Whereas when it comes to crackdowns, targeting OWS would have concerned maximum 60% of the country.

[Mike the Progressive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJx-uGRsiNU

Ah, I see the crazies are already out.

Let me save you the trouble:

-The Jews control the media, the banks, academia and half the government.
-September 11th was an inside job orchestrated by Bush to justify a war in Iraq.
-Hitler was a member of the Black Panther Party and was secret orders from J. Edgar Hoover.
-The female orgasm is real.
-The world will explode tomorrow when the clock strikes 12.
-Etc.

[Wisconsin9]

It would be relatively easy to have FBI assassinations passed off as activity by non-government aligned groups.

Yes, and what I'm saying is it wouldn't matter whether it was performed by a non-governmental group. An assassination would mean a shitstorm regardless.

Whereas when it comes to crackdowns, targeting OWS would have concerned maximum 60% of the country.

Except that the news outlets would have blown it into the stratosphere, left and right-wing. Assassinations would mean a shitstorm, yes, but it would be tiny compared to crackdowns, an investigation at most.

[Mike the Progressive]

Operation Northwoods was planned by the government (CIA, other officials, etc) to kill innocent American citizens in terrorist attacks (Planes and ships blowing up, etc) back in 1962, in order to justify an invasion of Cuba by blaming it on them using fabricated 'evidence'. Fortunately John F. Kennedy vetoed the plan, but it does go to show you that such an alleged plan by the FBI to assassinate OWS activists, while shocking, wouldn't be that, well, .. impossible.

There are always contingency plans, usually what to do if a mass movement went violent. However, the conspiracy theory concerning the OWS is stupid. If the government was involved in Kennedy's assasination, the lesson learned is never to assasinate anybody. It produces too much problems, too much doubt, and too much skepticism. Even if the FBI was planning to assasinate members of OWS and blame it on somebody else, they realize such an action would only worsen the situation.

Seriously, this is by far the most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time.

IF you are seeing a shadow government within the government, I would focus more on Madam DC's death. But I don't even know what this garbage is.

[Abatael]

This is pleasing to hear.

[The New Sea Territory]

No, The FBI is clamping down on a disorderly Mob that slept in the streets. In the event that what you say is true, The goverment would just be taking out a terrorist who plans to occupy wall street and take down the economy for a little.

Completely true.

BTW, do you know what OWS is? A bunch of unemployed "liberal arts" majors who can't find a job because they A. are lazy B. aren't good at what they do and decide to camp out and trash Wall Street because their "economically challenged"

Fix your own problems!

[Wisconsin9]

No, The FBI is clamping down on a disorderly Mob that slept in the streets. In the event that what you say is true, The goverment would just be taking out a terrorist who plans to occupy wall street and take down the economy for a little.

Completely true.

BTW, do you know what OWS is? A bunch of unemployed "liberal arts" majors who can't find a job because they A. are lazy B. aren't good at what they do and decide to camp out and trash Wall Street because their "economically challenged"

Fix your own problems!

See, there's this interesting concept called "freedom to peaceably assemble"...

[Greed and Death]

You can not be hard enough on these leftist.

[Wisconsin9]

You can not be hard enough on these leftist.

Again: freedom of speech and peaceful assembly. Just because I don't like Rush Limbaugh or his program doesn't mean I think the government should rescind his license.

[Conserative Morality]

It seems more like a contingency plan than anything.

[Greed and Death]

You can not be hard enough on these leftist.

Again: freedom of speech and peaceful assembly. Just because I don't like Rush Limbaugh or his program doesn't mean I think the government should rescind his license.

Rush Limbaugh is not a leftist.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

FBI document: "Someone or something considered employing assassination against OWS protesters."
OP: "WHY IS THE FBI A BUNCH OF MURDEROUS SCUMBAGS??? WHY DID THEY WANT TO KILL AMERICANS??????"

you see the most important thing gto remember about conspiricy theories is that most verbal evidence is taken out of contex

[Wisconsin9]

Again: freedom of speech and peaceful assembly. Just because I don't like Rush Limbaugh or his program doesn't mean I think the government should rescind his license.

Rush Limbaugh is not a leftist.

The point of that was that you can't silence someone just because you don't like what they have to say.

[Greed and Death]

Rush Limbaugh is not a leftist.

The point of that was that you can't silence someone just because you don't like what they have to say.

If they are objectively leftist then you can.

[Wisconsin9]

The point of that was that you can't silence someone just because you don't like what they have to say.

If they are objectively leftist then you can.

Yeah... no. It's illegal. And you're not even giving any halfway decent reasons, either; your argument basically boils down to "I don't like you, so shut your fucking mouth".

[Norstal]

FBI document: "Someone or something considered employing assassination against OWS protesters."
OP: "WHY IS THE FBI A BUNCH OF MURDEROUS SCUMBAGS??? WHY DID THEY WANT TO KILL AMERICANS??????"

I feel like NSG wants me to stop coming here with all the hyperbolic threads lately.

[Greed and Death]

If they are objectively leftist then you can.

Yeah... no. It's illegal. And you're not even giving any halfway decent reasons, either; your argument basically boils down to "I don't like you, so shut your fucking mouth".

It is not illegal to shoot commies and other leftist, at least not for the FBI.

[The Corparation]

Reading the document, it doesn't actually say the FBI was palling it. [redacted] was. There is zero evidence other then paranoia that [redacted] refers to the FBI. In all likelihood [redacted] refers to a third party which was plotting such attacks. The FBI had jack-shit to gain from assassinating any key occupy activists, and everything to lose if it were revealed.

[Gauthier]

Yeah... no. It's illegal. And you're not even giving any halfway decent reasons, either; your argument basically boils down to "I don't like you, so shut your fucking mouth".

It is not illegal to shoot commies and other leftist, at least not for the FBI.

So why haven't they shot Obama?

[Wisconsin9]

Yeah... no. It's illegal. And you're not even giving any halfway decent reasons, either; your argument basically boils down to "I don't like you, so shut your fucking mouth".

It is not illegal to shoot commies and other leftist, at least not for the FBI.

So why should it be legal to shoot leftists and not rightists?

[Caninope]

If they are objectively leftist then you can.

Yeah... no. It's illegal. And you're not even giving any halfway decent reasons, either; your argument basically boils down to "I don't like you, so shut your fucking mouth".

*Sigh*

Do you bother to read the name of who you're quoting? You have been around long enough to realize g&d has a very sarcastic sense of humor.

[The Corparation]

It is not illegal to shoot commies and other leftist, at least not for the FBI.

So why haven't they shot Obama?

Because he's not a leftist or a commie. He's the antichrist and thus bullets can't hurt him, and its really hard to get a sniper rifle to fire splashes Holy Water.

[Grave_n_idle]

Released FBI documents reveal plans to assassinate OWS activists

Jason Leopold, an investigative journalist for Truth-Out, has obtained FBI documents - through the Freedom of Information Act - relating to Occupy Wall Street. Most of the pages in the documents are redacted, and show concerns of cyber threats against the financial sector. However, there are questions of assassination plots against Occupy activists in Houston, Texas. Because the documents have redactions, it is not clear who or what group was planning the assassinations.

On page 61, the section reads: “An identified [redacted] of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified [redacted] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [Redacted] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.”

The bottom of page 68 and the top of page 69 reads: “On October 13, 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt [redacted] regarding FBI Houston’s [redacted] to all IA’s, SSRA’s and SSA [redacted]. This [redacted] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [redacted] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.” ragingchickenpress.org

HIGHLIGHTS

According to internal documents newly released by the FBI, the agency spearheaded a nationwide law enforcement effort to investigate and monitor the Occupy Wall Street movement. In certain documents, divisions of the FBI refer to the Occupy Wall Street protests as a "criminal activity" or even "domestic terrorism." The Huffington Post

The internal papers were obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice fund via a Freedom of Information Act Request. The fund, a legal nonprofit that focuses on civil rights, says it believes the 112 pages of documents, available for public viewing on its website, are only "the tip of the iceberg." The Huffington Post

Documents show the spying abuses of the FBI’s “Campus Liaison Program” in which the FBI in Albany and the Syracuse Joint Terrorism Task Force disseminated information to “sixteen different campus police officials,” and then “six additional campus police officials.” infoshop.org

Campus officials were in contact with the FBI for information on OWS. A representative of the State University of New York at Oswego contacted the FBI for information on the OWS protests and reported to the FBI on the SUNY-Oswego Occupy encampment made up of students and professors. infoshop.org

According to the new documents, the FBI began meeting with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and other businesses as early as August 2011, a month before the Zuccotti Park protests. The Huffington Post

According to the documents, the FBI coordinated extensively with private companies, including banks that feared they could be affected by Occupy protests. The Huffington Post
FACTS & FIGURES

The Occupy Wall Street movement, which began on September 17, 2011 in New York City's Wall Street financial district has been rallying against social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the perceived undue influence of corporations on government-particularly from the financial services sector. occupywallst.org

Among the Occupy movement's prime concerns is that large corporations and the global financial system control the world in a way that disproportionately benefits a minority, undermines democracy and is unstable. The Huffington Post

Occupy Wall Street has managed to turn the attention of America’s politicians and citizens to the dismal state of income inequality and economic mobility in the U.S. Think Progress

The Guardian

Yep our government doing everything in their power to keep us safe,.....I mean the banks safe from us. I don't really know what is the most disturbing, the fact that these documents show that the govt fears its own people (that's how its supposed to work) or the fact a peaceful movement was the planned target of FBI assassinations.

On page 61, the section reads: “An identified [redacted] of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified [redacted] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [Redacted] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.”
The bottom of page 68 and the top of page 69 reads: “On October 13, 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt [redacted] regarding FBI Houston’s [redacted] to all IA’s, SSRA’s and SSA [redacted]. This [redacted] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [redacted] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.” ragingchickenpress.org

I'm only really rambling because simply i'm awe struck, but this is why the OWS movement was so violently suppressed by police and Russia and Iran literally mocked the US of how they handled the movement and condemning the actions taken against the protesters. OWS is a terrorist organization?

According to the new documents, the FBI began meeting with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and other businesses as early as August 2011, a month before the Zuccotti Park protests. The Huffington Post

Yep all suspicions proven, the FBI and NYPD was simply working as a front for the banks and the billionaires who brought the world economy to a halt.

I'd be surprised - and a little saddened - if the were NO plans to take out high profile OWS targets should the need arise - but I'm really not sure there's evidence for it.