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Postby The Corparation » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:42 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:This is the official mod-sanctioned Mayan Apocalypse thread in preparation for this coming Friday's End of the World. All other Mayan Apocalypse threads this week will be locked.


Your friendly local mod archaeologist and university lecturer Dr Archregimancy has noted the following at least nine times, going back to the old Jolt forums:

The idea of 2012 as an apocalyptic/significant event stems from a misunderstanding of the Mayan Long Count.

The Long Count calendar is a base-20 system of dating from what, in western terms, is 11 August 3114 BC. There are four primary subdivisions consisting of the k'in (1 day), the winal (20 days), the tun (360 days), the k'atun (7,200 days) and the b'ak'tun (144,000).

The Popol Vuh, a book of creation myths from just one of many Mayan sub-groups, states that we're living in the 'fourth world', and that the 'third world' ended - and the previous creation began - at the start of the 14th b'ak'tun, or when the previous cycle's calender rolled over from 12.19.19.17.19 to 13.0.0.0.0 (for those without access to a calculator, that's 1,872,000 days per period). This is the basis for the 2012 myth.

However, there's no evidence, archaeological or documentary, that any Mayan group believed that the start of the 14th b'ak'tun of the current era would lead to the end of the world, there's no need to stop counting at the start of that b'ak'tun, and there are several Mayan inscriptions that anticipate events (such as future anniversary celebrations) taking place after the end of the 13th b'ak'tun.

Note that there are also some rarely-used higher subdivisions above the b'ak'tun which further invalidate the idea that the calendar 'ends' in 2012, and I've simplified the base 20 system for the k'atun and the b'ak'tun, though this is relevant to the discussion (they seem to only go to 13 when they're the highest subdivision counted, but do the full 20 roll-over when the next highest subdivision above them is included in the date). But essentially, the Mayan calendar is capable of expressing dates of hundreds of millenia forwards or backwards when the higher orders are used, and there's no reason to end the calendar at the conclusion of the 13th b'ak'tun.


I therefore expect to wake up on Saturday morning feeling alert and refreshed.


The rest of you, however, may have other ideas....

Arch you're looking over one very important flaw. You have degrees in Archeology and are an expert on the field. Thus as someone who knows what you are talking about you have no doubt been enlisted by the Illuminati to spread lies and falsehoods about 2012 so that people will not expect the total disasters that will occur. They plan on using the panic and deaths from the disasters to reveal themselves from the secret bunkers they've built and come out to rule the world and subjugate us lesser beings, and due to our shattered state they are plotting to appear to us in the guise of gods. Your game us up Arch, its been nice knowing but now I've exposed you you haven't long to live. I'm sad at this but the TRUTH MUST BE KNOWN!
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Postby Lenehen » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:42 pm

Does anyone else think that we should all pretend that it happened, so in the future we can tell our grandchildren how we survived the apocolypse?
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:42 pm

San Leggera wrote:I vote that when we wake up on the 22nd, the first thing we do is shout 'He did it! The Doctor saved us!'.


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Postby Meowfoundland » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:42 pm

I'm fairly certain my friends are holding an "end of the world" party. I'll probably be at home, and have a nice early night.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:42 pm

The Mayans are trolling people who were hoping the world will end so they can bail out on whatever responsibilities, burdens or debts they have.

Come Friday we'll have mass suicides because so many people realized the world would go on and so would their responsibilities, burdens or debts.
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Postby Multiflow » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:43 pm

I personally don't think anything out of the ordinary is going to happen on December 21, 2012, or really any day soon, unless humans are directly causing it.

I do enjoy the blackout theories, and have been thinking about them. My favorite way of playing with them is using modern computer systems to explain them. There may a bit of assumptions here (come on where would be the fun otherwise) but here we go.

First to set a partial framework. Black holes take in everything. There is speculation about an opposite, the white hole. We (our conscience, mind, soul, spirit) exist outside, our bodies are just avatars that receive information from there. This information is relayed to us through a white hole, and then our bodies in this reality send the information on through to the black hole to our conscience. During the next few days there is going to be an interruption in service.

Now think of this as a massive online game, with you plugged in somewhere else. What happens? Do you 'wake up' here, or do you 'wake up' outside? If you 'wake up' here, and others do not ... are they 'zombies'? If you 'wake up' outside, what is there?

It does lead to some interesting questions if you want to entertain it. Other than that, it is at least a good chuckle.
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Postby TaQud » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:43 pm

Lenehen wrote:Does anyone else think that we should all pretend that it happened, so in the future we can tell our grandchildren how we survived the apocolypse?

no we should tell our grandchildren on how when they were kids, gas was $1.75! :lol:
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:44 pm

San Leggera wrote:I vote that when we wake up on the 22nd, the first thing we do is shout 'He did it! The Doctor saved us!'.

YES YES YES!!!
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:45 pm

Multiflow wrote:I personally don't think anything out of the ordinary is going to happen on December 21, 2012, or really any day soon, unless humans are directly causing it.

I do enjoy the blackout theories, and have been thinking about them. My favorite way of playing with them is using modern computer systems to explain them. There may a bit of assumptions here (come on where would be the fun otherwise) but here we go.

First to set a partial framework. Black holes take in everything. There is speculation about an opposite, the white hole. We (our conscience, mind, soul, spirit) exist outside, our bodies are just avatars that receive information from there. This information is relayed to us through a white hole, and then our bodies in this reality send the information on through to the black hole to our conscience. During the next few days there is going to be an interruption in service.

Now think of this as a massive online game, with you plugged in somewhere else. What happens? Do you 'wake up' here, or do you 'wake up' outside? If you 'wake up' here, and others do not ... are they 'zombies'? If you 'wake up' outside, what is there?

It does lead to some interesting questions if you want to entertain it. Other than that, it is at least a good chuckle.

That is literally the most ridiculous, absurd, unscientific and retarded theory about both the human mind and about Black Holes that I have ever read.
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Postby Maroza » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:47 pm

Lenehen wrote:Does anyone else think that we should all pretend that it happened, so in the future we can tell our grandchildren how we survived the apocolypse?


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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:49 pm

Lenehen wrote:Does anyone else think that we should all pretend that it happened, so in the future we can tell our grandchildren how we survived the apocolypse?

So, we fake history books and use large sums of money just so we can get bragging rights?
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Postby Multiflow » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:49 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Multiflow wrote:
I personally don't think anything out of the ordinary is going to happen on December 21, 2012, or really any day soon, unless humans are directly causing it.

I do enjoy the blackout theories, and have been thinking about them. My favorite way of playing with them is using modern computer systems to explain them. There may a bit of assumptions here (come on where would be the fun otherwise) but here we go.

First to set a partial framework. Black holes take in everything. There is speculation about an opposite, the white hole. We (our conscience, mind, soul, spirit) exist outside, our bodies are just avatars that receive information from there. This information is relayed to us through a white hole, and then our bodies in this reality send the information on through to the black hole to our conscience. During the next few days there is going to be an interruption in service.

Now think of this as a massive online game, with you plugged in somewhere else. What happens? Do you 'wake up' here, or do you 'wake up' outside? If you 'wake up' here, and others do not ... are they 'zombies'? If you 'wake up' outside, what is there?

It does lead to some interesting questions if you want to entertain it. Other than that, it is at least a good chuckle.

That is literally the most ridiculous, absurd, unscientific and retarded theory about both the human mind and about Black Holes that I have ever read.

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Postby The Corparation » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:50 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Lenehen wrote:Does anyone else think that we should all pretend that it happened, so in the future we can tell our grandchildren how we survived the apocolypse?

So, we fake history books and use large sums of money just so we can get bragging rights?
Sign me up!

This reminds me of one of the most absurd conspiracy theories I ever read. It essentially boiled down to: "All of history is a lie propgated by Historians to mislead us" Think there was some NWO, illumanati BS in there as well.
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Postby Mushet » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:51 pm

Madrilena wrote:I can't even believe that the people are even answering to this thing, despite they answering ironically. Even ironically isn't funny at all. With the Christian predictions about the end of the World since 1994/5 to 2011 I got literally enough. The Mayan predictions make me feel sick.

They're not Mayan predictions
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Postby Lenehen » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:52 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:So, we fake history books and use large sums of money just so we can get bragging rights?
Sign me up!

This reminds me of one of the most absurd conspiracy theories I ever read. It essentially boiled down to: "All of history is a lie propgated by Historians to mislead us" Think there was some NWO, illumanati BS in there as well.


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Postby Mushet » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:53 pm

Gauthier wrote:The Mayans are trolling people who were hoping the world will end so they can bail out on whatever responsibilities, burdens or debts they have.

Come Friday we'll have mass suicides because so many people realized the world would go on and so would their responsibilities, burdens or debts.

The Mayans are not responsible for these predictions
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Postby Fnordgasm 5 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:56 pm

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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:56 pm

Just about sums up my life really.

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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:57 pm

The Corparation wrote:
San Leggera wrote:I vote that when we wake up on the 22nd, the first thing we do is shout 'He did it! The Doctor saved us!'.

YES YES YES!!!


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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:57 pm

Lenehen wrote:
The Corparation wrote:This reminds me of one of the most absurd conspiracy theories I ever read. It essentially boiled down to: "All of history is a lie propgated by Historians to mislead us" Think there was some NWO, illumanati BS in there as well.


I say we do it! Who's going to believe the conspiracy theorists that NSG is responsible for re-writing history?

Exjactly!
We will need to plant explosives underground throughout the world and rig them to explode simultaneously but with enough power to create minor earthquake... then, infect the world's water supply with sleeping agent. Then, we will do stuff and make them believe they survived the apocalypse because of us!
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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:59 pm

This is a disaster.

Between meteors falling from the sky, the undead rising, aliens invading, and a nuclear holocaust, when am I going to find time to do any last-minute shopping?
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Nude East Ireland wrote:This is a disaster.

Between meteors falling from the sky, the undead rising, aliens invading, and a nuclear holocaust, when am I going to find time to do any last-minute shopping?


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Postby Multiflow » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:00 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Lenehen wrote:
I say we do it! Who's going to believe the conspiracy theorists that NSG is responsible for re-writing history?

Exjactly!
We will need to plant explosives underground throughout the world and rig them to explode simultaneously but with enough power to create minor earthquake... then, infect the world's water supply with sleeping agent. Then, we will do stuff and make them believe they survived the apocalypse because of us!

Actually someone else suggested this in another thread ... get sets of clothes and in the morning set them out with sand in them ... sit back and watch.
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Czechanada wrote:
Nude East Ireland wrote:This is a disaster.

Between meteors falling from the sky, the undead rising, aliens invading, and a nuclear holocaust, when am I going to find time to do any last-minute shopping?


You can always shop online.

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Postby Call to power » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:06 pm

Guys, I have my own theory. What if conspiracy theories are just a bit of fun most people have? What if you're all being terribly socially inept in getting smug about this. Like a grown man trying to list the impossibilities of Santa Clause. Sure there will be a few nuts but like all cult things they will simply not psychologically accept they were wrong because they are mental.

I mean just a thought, but if you really had this Mayan business sorted and were not a robot, wouldn't you go to the end of the world party anyway?
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