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Postby 4years » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:06 pm

Grand Duchy of Prussia wrote:The battle of New Orleans crushing the the very same unit that beat Napoleon and a great end to an average war


I would call the battle of New Orleans one of the least inspiring moment in history. It never needed to happen, the treaty ending the war had been signed before the battle took place, that ended a war that need not have happened and accomplished nothing.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:07 pm

Delanshar wrote:Personally I have a few. I think that the formation of the USA was very inspiring, because it was one of the first republics during a time when most of the world was ruled by Autocratic Kings.

...curiously not mentioning that "first republic" (I assume the Italian Renaissance, or the Hansa cities, or Switzerland, or the Seven Provinces don't matter because they're not anglo-saxon enough, right? Let's not even talk Greek cities, or Rome...) arose against the only CONSTITUTIONAL kingdom around at the time, with the support of two autocratic empires... :unsure:
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Postby Vetalia » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:11 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:you know what I just noticed? theres a dude who isn't wearing pants and a lady who isn't wearing a top, but one dude decided "no. just because we are having a revolution doesn't mean standards need to slip" wearing a top hat and bow tie. Classy san culottes that he is.

EDIT: also Boboobies.


You know what I just noticed? Both the guy with the top hat and bow tie and the pirate behind him are totally checking out her revolutionary assets. At the same time, Buffalo Bill to the right is too busy dual-wielding his pistols to pay much attention.

The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess...
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU

I know it didn't happen.
But damn, thats inspiring. :p
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Postby Aelosia » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:13 pm

Beethoven conducting the ninth on its release while deaf (even although he was assisted). That was pretty epic. If I could travel through time to only watch one moment in history, I would go to that theater.
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:21 pm

i do not find political, ideological, nor even religious incidents the most inspiring. but rather the good things, especially the small ones and most especially the least expected. i cry with joy when the unexpectable good happens. i don't know how to express my emotional feeling about this. history is generally unreliable, given the usual motivations behind the recording and teaching of it. so the sort of thing that inspires me is perhaps the most under reported aspect of it.

yet i dare say, does more to shape our world, then all the wars and speaches of politicians. even civil actions, though those certainly have their much needed and realistic place.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:23 pm

Cameroi wrote:i do not find political, ideological, nor even religious incidents the most inspiring. but rather the good things, especially the small ones and most especially the least expected. i cry with joy when the unexpectable good happens. i don't know how to express my emotional feeling about this. history is generally unreliable, given the usual motivations behind the recording and teaching of it. so the sort of thing that inspires me is perhaps the most under reported aspect of it.

yet i dare say, does more to shape our world, then all the wars and speaches of politicians. even civil actions, though those certainly have their much needed and realistic place.

Like when someone was trapped under a car and everyone got together and lifted it a year or so back? That was wonderful.
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Postby Delanshar » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:23 pm

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Delanshar wrote:Personally I have a few. I think that the formation of the USA was very inspiring, because it was one of the first republics during a time when most of the world was ruled by Autocratic Kings.

...curiously not mentioning that "first republic" (I assume the Italian Renaissance, or the Hansa cities, or Switzerland, or the Seven Provinces don't matter because they're not anglo-saxon enough, right? Let's not even talk Greek cities, or Rome...) arose against the only CONSTITUTIONAL kingdom around at the time, with the support of two autocratic empires... :unsure:


Notice I said "Most". Key word.
Also I was talking about the contemporary political landscape at the time of America's founding. So any mention of the Greek city states (Athens was a democracy btw, not a Republic) or the Roman Republic is irrelevant.

Also who cares if the French helped us. Stalin helped us defeat Hitler and he sure as hell wasn't a saint. But it was still a necessary struggle. Pragmatism is your friend.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:44 pm

Delanshar wrote:Notice I said "Most". Key word.

Noted also that you said "one of the first".
Which is NOT the case.

Also I was talking about the contemporary political landscape at the time of America's founding. So any mention of the Greek city states (Athens was a democracy btw, not a Republic) or the Roman Republic is irrelevant.

1.Have you noticed that there's no Greek word for "republic"... except for "demokratia"? Anyway, no, not a democracy in any modern sense, which is the only way you can draw a difference between "republic" and "democracy".
2.How many other republics were around when the Greeks had republics? Or when Rome was a Republic? Or when San Marino, Schwyz, Uri, Unterwalden, Siena, Florence, Genoa, Venice, Amalfi, Pisa, the Grey League, the Seven Provinces, etc were republics? Note that some of them were republics even in 1776, and had been around since more than a century.

Also who cares if the French helped us.

Also Spain.

Stalin helped us defeat Hitler and he sure as hell wasn't a saint. But it was still a necessary struggle. Pragmatism is your friend.
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Err...
Quite a partial way of looking at the US and Soviet involvement in WW2, right? As if the US declared war to Germany because they wanted to bash the Nazis, and then along came the Soviets, spurred by the American intervention.

Anyway, now, explain how "pragmatism is your friend" goes well with the "inspiring". Unless you feel pragmatism very inspiring... then, I wonder why you didn't find, let's say, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact (extremely "pragmatic") equally inspiring. Or the Congress of Vienna...
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:49 pm

I'd consider the creation of the universe to have been the inspiring moment in this series.

Unfortunately, everything has gone quite downhill since then.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:02 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'd consider the creation of the universe to have been the inspiring moment in this series.

Unfortunately, everything has gone quite downhill since then.

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Postby Choronzon » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:25 pm

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Castille de Italia wrote:Personally, this. Otherwise, as I said earlier, Jesse Owens smoking Nazi Germany's "superior" runner, Ralph Metcalfe, in the 100m at the Berlin 1936 Olympics...


Well, at least Hitler had the decency to not show his displeasure about a coloured man's victory in public. Owens himself remarked that the US President didn't even send him a telegram afterwards.

Apparently all the Nazis were very friendly towards him and congratulated him on his victory and were total gentlemen about it. Then he came back to America where he was more or less spit on.

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:28 pm

Choronzon wrote:
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Well, at least Hitler had the decency to not show his displeasure about a coloured man's victory in public. Owens himself remarked that the US President didn't even send him a telegram afterwards.

Apparently all the Nazis were very friendly towards him and congratulated him on his victory and were total gentlemen about it. Then he came back to America where he was more or less spit on.

Thats....rather depressing.
That the Nazi's could could put there beliefs aside for a brief moment for a foreigner but we can't even do that for one of our own? *sigh*

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Apparently all the Nazis were very friendly towards him and congratulated him on his victory and were total gentlemen about it. Then he came back to America where he was more or less spit on.

Thats....rather depressing.
That the Nazi's could could put there beliefs aside for a brief moment for a foreigner but we can't even do that for one of our own? *sigh*

Nazis treated black people better than Americans. Because Americans were some of the worst people in the history of the world until about the 1970s.
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New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Thats....rather depressing.
That the Nazi's could could put there beliefs aside for a brief moment for a foreigner but we can't even do that for one of our own? *sigh*

Nazis treated black people better than Americans. Because Americans were some of the worst people in the history of the world until about the 1970s.

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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:31 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'd consider the creation of the universe to have been the inspiring moment in this series.

Unfortunately, everything has gone quite downhill since then.


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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:32 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'd consider the creation of the universe to have been the inspiring moment in this series.

Unfortunately, everything has gone quite downhill since then.


What we need is a Great Souled person to come up and take over the mantle of God and reorganize and rejuvinate humanity so that it can reach it's full potential.

And this person is not you.
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Postby Delanshar » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:41 pm

Risottia wrote:Noted also that you said "one of the first".
Which is NOT the case.


I meant one of the first nations at that time. At no point did I say America was the first republic, or the only republic at that time. It was ONE of the first, at a time when MOST other nations were autocratic.


Also Spain.


Yes. Again, pragmatism.

Err...
Quite a partial way of looking at the US and Soviet involvement in WW2, right? As if the US declared war to Germany because they wanted to bash the Nazis, and then along came the Soviets, spurred by the American intervention.

Anyway, now, explain how "pragmatism is your friend" goes well with the "inspiring". Unless you feel pragmatism very inspiring... then, I wonder why you didn't find, let's say, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact (extremely "pragmatic") equally inspiring. Or the Congress of Vienna...



I don't remember ever saying that pragmatism in itself was "inspiring". Only that it was a rationale for why the colonists accepted French (and Spanish) aid. A fact which you brought up.
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Postby Delanshar » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:45 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
What we need is a Great Souled person to come up and take over the mantle of God and reorganize and rejuvinate humanity so that it can reach it's full potential.

And this person is not you.


Nilf, you have your own thread to spread your crazy megalomania. Leave us alone.
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Postby Phocidaea » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:50 pm

I know it'll sound cliche, but... Apollo 11.

It was like humanity's message to the universe: "We've been through a lot of shit throughout, we could have killed everyone in the whole world anytime in the last 20 years- but we still have the resources to go to the moon! We have the power to send vessels into space! We can do stuff! Hell yeah!"
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:53 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
What we need is a Great Souled person to come up and take over the mantle of God and reorganize and rejuvinate humanity so that it can reach it's full potential.

And this person is not you.

I for one nominate Katganistan.

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Postby The Corparation » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:55 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:And this person is not you.

I for one nominate Katganistan.

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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:57 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:And this person is not you.

I for one nominate Katganistan.


I would nominate Julius Caesar. But since he's dead and I'm likely his reincarnation anyway....

Yeah, I'll just nominate myself.
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