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Porn being banned in the UK?

Postby Isteria » Thu May 10, 2012 9:06 am

Recently, David Cameron has said that he may soon make ISPs (Internet Service Providers) like Virgin and BT to start to block adult content, and that people who don't want adult content to be blocked can opt out with the ISPs. Do you think, it terms of Internet Censorship, that this is a good idea? Bear in mind that this is done mainly for families.

http://www.mashable.com/2010/12/19/uk-porn-ban/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjEcw_UToJs&list=UUlFSU9_bUb4Rc6OYfTt5SPw&index=4&feature=plcp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/07/online-porn-regulate-kids-not-net
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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu May 10, 2012 9:08 am

What is your opinion?

I personally think it's the families' responsibility what content they allow their children to be exposed at in the Internet.
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Postby Ovisterra » Thu May 10, 2012 9:09 am

I said the banning of pirate websites was just the start and they didn't believe me. They're coming for us. Revolt while you can!

Seriously though, having censorship as the default is not a good thing. It's not too serious, but it's not good.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Thu May 10, 2012 9:10 am

Oh, right, I forgot the government is supposed to police the children of their activities and not the parents.
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Postby Digeris » Thu May 10, 2012 9:11 am

I like the thought, but I highly doubt this will last long
(Britian seems to have a tendency to be EXTREMELY proctective ive noticed...
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu May 10, 2012 9:11 am

I thought it was an opt in thing?

It seems you've said that in a way, but I would suggest changing the wording of the OP to strongly emphasise the opt in part or at least use the phrase.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu May 10, 2012 9:14 am

So... what is "adult" content ? Nipplegate ? The wikipedia article on vaginas ? Michelangelos David with the little peepee ? Nudist websites ? Pictures of Mary breastfeeding Jesus ?

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Postby Northern Sunrise Islands » Thu May 10, 2012 9:16 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So... what is "adult" content ? Nipplegate ? The wikipedia article on vaginas ? Michelangelos David with the little peepee ?


I guess that the adult content would be those sites with flashing porn all over it. There is a discerniment line between those stuff and cultural things.
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Postby Isteria » Thu May 10, 2012 9:20 am

Souseiseki wrote:I thought it was an opt in thing?

It seems you've said that in a way, but I would suggest changing the wording of the OP to strongly emphasise the opt in part or at least use the phrase.


Yeah, sorry, I meant to say that people had to 'opt in' to watch porn. This would be an appropriate link to read more about it.

http://www.mashable.com/2010/12/19/uk-porn-ban/
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu May 10, 2012 9:22 am

Northern Sunrise Islands wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:So... what is "adult" content ? Nipplegate ? The wikipedia article on vaginas ? Michelangelos David with the little peepee ?


I guess that the adult content would be those sites with flashing porn all over it. There is a discerniment line between those stuff and cultural things.


That line is very blurry. There truly are special interest groups that oppose the public display of nudity in art.
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Postby Nadkor » Thu May 10, 2012 9:24 am

Er....your thread title is ridiculous. It bears no relation to reality.

At worst, the proposal (although even calling it a proposal is being generous and, no, David Cameron cannot "make" the ISPs do anything) would mean that when you're signing up for a broadband supplier you tick a wee box saying that you don't want adult content to be blocked.
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Postby Angleter » Thu May 10, 2012 9:25 am

There's due to be a consultation on whether you should have to opt in for the filters, or opt out of the filters. This means nothing will happen for quite a while yet.
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Postby Risottia » Thu May 10, 2012 9:26 am

Isteria wrote:Recently, David Cameron has said that he may soon make ISPs (Internet Service Providers) ...

It's clearly all fault of the Evil European Freedom-Hating Union. That's what you get when you have an EU-lover as PM...

...oh wait.
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Postby The Ancient and Orthodox Potato Church » Thu May 10, 2012 9:28 am

Isteria wrote:Bear in mind that this is done mainly for families.


Ahahahahah! Funny line that. Nothing the Tories have done in the last thirty years has been for families, unless you count destruction of families beneficial.

I reckon Richard "Dirty" Desmond will just throw money their way, and it'll be dropped soon after their poll ratings rise (if they do, if not it'll be quietly shelved during the next crisis).
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Postby Ende » Thu May 10, 2012 9:30 am

Actually, I kind of like the idea.
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Postby Isteria » Thu May 10, 2012 9:31 am

Nadkor wrote:Er....your thread title is ridiculous. It bears no relation to reality.

At worst, the proposal (although even calling it a proposal is being generous and, no, David Cameron cannot "make" the ISPs do anything) would mean that when you're signing up for a broadband supplier you tick a wee box saying that you don't want adult content to be blocked.


I just wanted to see how many people on NationStates mastu-I mean oppose the idea of adult censorship (or agree). I'm also not sure about how many people who secretly do masturbate are really open enough to tick the box to opt out. In my opinion, thats pretty much a BIG marker saying 'I jack off', and I wouldn't really be at liberty to disclose that with my ISP.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu May 10, 2012 9:31 am

How would this be a ban on pornography?
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Postby Chinese Regions » Thu May 10, 2012 9:32 am

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Postby Chinese Regions » Thu May 10, 2012 9:32 am

Ovisterra wrote:I said the banning of pirate websites was just the start and they didn't believe me. They're coming for us. Revolt while you can!

Seriously though, having censorship as the default is not a good thing. It's not too serious, but it's not good.

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Postby Glasgia » Thu May 10, 2012 9:34 am

Source?

But seriously, it's up to the parents.
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Postby Angleter » Thu May 10, 2012 9:35 am

Isteria wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Er....your thread title is ridiculous. It bears no relation to reality.

At worst, the proposal (although even calling it a proposal is being generous and, no, David Cameron cannot "make" the ISPs do anything) would mean that when you're signing up for a broadband supplier you tick a wee box saying that you don't want adult content to be blocked.


I just wanted to see how many people on NationStates mastu-I mean oppose the idea of adult censorship (or agree). I'm also not sure about how many people who secretly do masturbate are really open enough to tick the box to opt out. In my opinion, thats pretty much a BIG marker saying 'I jack off', and I wouldn't really be at liberty to disclose that with my ISP.


You do know your ISP already knows which sites you visit?
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Postby Morrdh » Thu May 10, 2012 9:37 am

Adult content is automatically blocked on mobile web devices, you had to go instore and get said blocker removed.

Though admittedly Vodefone's definition of 'adult content' is surprisingly broad.
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Postby Nadkor » Thu May 10, 2012 9:37 am

Isteria wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Er....your thread title is ridiculous. It bears no relation to reality.

At worst, the proposal (although even calling it a proposal is being generous and, no, David Cameron cannot "make" the ISPs do anything) would mean that when you're signing up for a broadband supplier you tick a wee box saying that you don't want adult content to be blocked.


I just wanted to see how many people on NationStates mastu-I mean oppose the idea of adult censorship (or agree). I'm also not sure about how many people who secretly do masturbate are really open enough to tick the box to opt out. In my opinion, thats pretty much a BIG marker saying 'I jack off', and I wouldn't really be at liberty to disclose that with my ISP.


Why not?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu May 10, 2012 9:38 am

Isteria wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Er....your thread title is ridiculous. It bears no relation to reality.

At worst, the proposal (although even calling it a proposal is being generous and, no, David Cameron cannot "make" the ISPs do anything) would mean that when you're signing up for a broadband supplier you tick a wee box saying that you don't want adult content to be blocked.


I just wanted to see how many people on NationStates mastu-I mean oppose the idea of adult censorship (or agree). I'm also not sure about how many people who secretly do masturbate are really open enough to tick the box to opt out. In my opinion, thats pretty much a BIG marker saying 'I jack off', and I wouldn't really be at liberty to disclose that with my ISP.


Unless you permanently use tor and such, your isp already knows you visit certain pornsites daily.
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