Nova Nacio wrote:Gallogach wrote:So let me get this straight, you are claiming people are going to lose their jobs or that there will be some form of job loss because civil unions are outlawed. Care to elaborate how not getting married or put in a civil union causes this? And what protections are you referring to that comes with civil unions and why are they so vital? As for civil unions and kids, that seems to be a nonissue at face value in my opinion. Homosexuals cant adopt or have kids in North Carolina so what they have works for them.
Domestic abuse simply becomes assault and should be handled appropriately. Meaning there is also a nonissue. Unless you are implying police will cease enforcing the law because of this ammendment.
With the war on women and children and the poor being waged by the GOP, all you need is to read/look around for proper news - this is just one more state that will be hit hard by this racist, sexist, and rich/corporatist-pandering BS the GOP is doing, all in the name of a religion I AM NOW ASHAMED TO BE APART OF.
The GOP's goal is to use shit like this to discriminate, as well as roll back ALL RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS for women, children, the poor, and ALL MINORITIES (like Black people, like MYSELF) who need them to survive in a world doomed to eventual violent revolution and/or anarchy, should these rights die.
Religion you are ashamed to be apart of? Then renounce your faith and be done with it instead of attempting to besmirch the religion itself by claiming you are ashamed of who you are because of it. You have the freedom of choice so you should use it instead of claiming yourself a victim who is unable to change. I think I just solved a personal problem for you there. --And I'd like to note that they aren't doing this in the name of religion. There is no religious group standing up on a political platform saying that their goal was to ban civil unions in North Carolina. Get me proof that there was a group campaigning specifically for this before the vote and then we'll talk.
You want to talk about war on women? How is there a war on women? Allowing freedom of religion to be upheld by not forcing the religious organization to do something against its fundamental teachings? That is not a war on women my friend, that is a war on liberty and the right to choose. Nothing more, nothing less. Not a single person said that we should ban contraception or anything of the sort. But what you should look at for war on women is how many of these women lost jobs due to the current economic environment brought about by this administration. Or you could look to how the Democracts actively demean and debase stay at home moms.
War on the poor? There is currently a war to force people to become poor. The number of people on food stamps has doubled since this administration has taken office. So you are correct. This administration wants more poor people now than ever before so the government can dictate what you can and cannot do.
Racists and sexists? Banning civil unions happened because North Carolina is racist and sexist? That makes a sound argument by any standards (Note the sarcasm). Are you implying that men are sexists against the lesbians and that the women are sexist against the gay men? That is as far as my logic takes me but then that would make marriage and having a family all but impossible. Unless you are trying to insinuate that all men and women are self loathing sexists who hate their very existence. At which point they should commit mass suicide and be done with it. As for them being racists, I don't have any statistical data, but I'm pretty sure being a homosexual is indiscriminate to race.
As for rolling back protections; I am still waiting on someone to list for me what protections have been taken. I already noted above how this isn't affecting children protections, and domestic abuse incidents simply become assault. Therefore there is not attack on women's rights here. The poor aren't affected by this unless you can show me how not having a civil union somehow condemns a person to poverty who isn't already rich beyond belief, destroys jobs, or causes economic disparity. And for this being racist, that is a fallacy. Unless you are claiming that majority of people who are gay are minorities. At which time I would like to see statistical data to back this point up.
Ninja'd!!