Ridiculous School Rules

[Katganistan]

http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalReso ... dents.aspx

Tinker v. Des Moines (1969)
Goss v. Lopez (1975)

The statement that students have NO constitutional rights is an out and out lie. They do.

[Durmatagno]

I go to a new tech, the principal snapped and made his own rules on top of stupid district ones (In a fire TAKS Tests, now STARS, are more importent then the lives of the students, the teacher has to have them in order to leave the classroom, even during a fire) and if I sue I don't get the free MacBook when I graduate, and it'll cost more in lawyers than I'm ever likely to earn here, all the parents supports uniforms, the district & school rules. BLAH BLAH BLAH

The teachers don't even know what might be on the STAAR test. what.

But I fear I detect...sarcasm?

Actually no, the teachers in my district have been told (Luckily I'm still on TAKS thanks to being a sophomore) that state administered tests are required to be with the teachers anytime the leave the room, period, unless a sub is present for them, so thus it has been ruled that even in a fire, unless the papers are already burned (Consequences for the entire class there), they have to be the first thing the teacher gets out, even before us. Yeah, I'm in Texas

[Norstal]

As a sophomore in high school, obviously I think quite a few rules are unnecessary. But this time, they just went too far. Now to leave the classroom for any reason, a student must have a signed pass. This really gets to me during my last class of the day, which is literally right across the hall from bathrooms, water fountains, and my locker. Students here usually just complain, but they might actually do something about this. Thoughts?

I had that before. I don't really see what the problem is. Just get the signed pass? And if it's that close, then they won't notice you.

[Lizardiar]

One of my Three. THREE. Vice principals called me in to speak with him about the new school policies (No eating outside of cafeteria, snacks int he machines are to be locked during school hours, no outside beverages, no clubs selling food to raise money, and no clubs selling shirts) He asked several to come in, each in private. When he asked me, I gave him advice. Advice I did not get in trouble for, which I was most surprised at.

If you want us to be like a herd, put converyor belts in the halls, put blinders on us so we do nothing but go to class, have an officer in every class if you want to perfectly control all the students, and feed us nothing but bread and water, since all the other food categories are bad for kids in one way or another.

[Lizardiar]

http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalResources/ConstitutionResources/LegalLandmarks/LandmarkSupremeCourtCasesAboutStudents.aspx

Tinker v. Des Moines (1969)
Goss v. Lopez (1975)

The statement that students have NO constitutional rights is an out and out lie. They do.

Again, I was quoting my law text book, created in the year 2000. I didn't say it was true, i stated what we were told and instructed upon.

[Heterodox Economists]

http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalResources/ConstitutionResources/LegalLandmarks/LandmarkSupremeCourtCasesAboutStudents.aspx

Tinker v. Des Moines (1969)
Goss v. Lopez (1975)

The statement that students have NO constitutional rights is an out and out lie. They do.

Students have some constitutional rights, but they are lackluster when compared to the rights full adults receive. I believe under the new cyber bullying laws for example school staff are not only allowed to confiscate students property, but they can also go through it, such as phone messages. Adults of course are treated in a much different way, as adults even have the right to refuse to be searched by law enforcement personnel, let alone have property confiscated without a proper investigation.

[Kirrig]

One of my Three. THREE. Vice principals called me in to speak with him about the new school policies (No eating outside of cafeteria, snacks int he machines are to be locked during school hours, no outside beverages, no clubs selling food to raise money, and no clubs selling shirts) He asked several to come in, each in private. When he asked me, I gave him advice. Advice I did not get in trouble for, which I was most surprised at.

If you want us to be like a herd, put converyor belts in the halls, put blinders on us so we do nothing but go to class, have an officer in every class if you want to perfectly control all the students, and feed us nothing but bread and water, since all the other food categories are bad for kids in one way or another.

Three? Pff, we have four., although one is superior to the other three and stands in for the heamaster when he is absent. Plus six deans.

Are you allowed outside much?

[Lizardiar]

One of my Three. THREE. Vice principals called me in to speak with him about the new school policies (No eating outside of cafeteria, snacks int he machines are to be locked during school hours, no outside beverages, no clubs selling food to raise money, and no clubs selling shirts) He asked several to come in, each in private. When he asked me, I gave him advice. Advice I did not get in trouble for, which I was most surprised at.

If you want us to be like a herd, put converyor belts in the halls, put blinders on us so we do nothing but go to class, have an officer in every class if you want to perfectly control all the students, and feed us nothing but bread and water, since all the other food categories are bad for kids in one way or another.

Three? Pff, we have four., although one is superior to the other three and stands in for the heamaster when he is absent. Plus six deans.

Are you allowed outside much?

We're allowed to the bus drop-off. We have two benches and only 6 students are allowed out at any time, and they must have an officer out with them, Not a rent-a-cop, an actual police officer tasked with school security.

[Arkotania]

My school doesn't allow facial hair. I've always wanted a goatee...

I think my school's rules are a bit worse compared to others usually due to the fact my school is private. It's pretty damn hard to argue the rules since they just ignore our complaints.

I think students need a Union. Only if we could take legal action, then schools would soon fear our wrath.

[Kirrig]

Three? Pff, we have four., although one is superior to the other three and stands in for the heamaster when he is absent. Plus six deans.

Are you allowed outside much?

We're allowed to the bus drop-off. We have two benches and only 6 students are allowed out at any time, and they must have an officer out with them, Not a rent-a-cop, an actual police officer tasked with school security.

Now that is extreme. We aren't allowed inside, at lunch and whatnot.

[Katganistan]

http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalResources/ConstitutionResources/LegalLandmarks/LandmarkSupremeCourtCasesAboutStudents.aspx

Tinker v. Des Moines (1969)
Goss v. Lopez (1975)

The statement that students have NO constitutional rights is an out and out lie. They do.

Again, I was quoting my law text book, created in the year 2000. I didn't say it was true, i stated what we were told and instructed upon.

Then your book and your instructor were at best incorrect and at worst lying to you. I know this because I have taught this material to my students alongside works like 1984 or for persuasive or informational essays regarding student rights.

[Lizardiar]

Again, I was quoting my law text book, created in the year 2000. I didn't say it was true, i stated what we were told and instructed upon.

Then your book and your instructor were at best incorrect and at worst lying to you.

The teacher opened up to us, he's a, what he himself refers to and what other teachers refer to him as, A scab beceause he utterly refuses to join the teacher's union. And he said that at the beginning of his career, that he never believed any of the other teachers that school became less and less about education. He said that now he can see a lot of things that are intended to enforce political policies on new generations of students and that it's gone on for years and years.

[Genivaria]

My school mascot was called the Maverick. A bull. In the center of our school there was a painting of the Maverick on the floor.
There was a rule that said no one is allowed to walk on it. So everyone had to walk around and were packed on into the wall trying to cross.
Alot of people didn't care and walked across it anyway. (Me)

[Desperate Measures]

My school mascot was called the Maverick. A bull. In the center of our school there was a painting of the Maverick on the floor.
There was a rule that said no one is allowed to walk on it. So everyone had to walk around and were packed on into the wall trying to cross.
Alot of people didn't care and walked across it anyway. (Me)

J.D.?

[Mad Monarch]

When your rules reach the level of retardation that is Florida's zero tolerance rule you can complain.

Till then, donate to the less fortunate. I accept $100

[Genivaria]

My school mascot was called the Maverick. A bull. In the center of our school there was a painting of the Maverick on the floor.
There was a rule that said no one is allowed to walk on it. So everyone had to walk around and were packed on into the wall trying to cross.
Alot of people didn't care and walked across it anyway. (Me)

J.D.?

Morton Ranch HS.
Katy, Texas.

[Saint Jade IV]

My school doesn't allow facial hair. I've always wanted a goatee...

I think my school's rules are a bit worse compared to others usually due to the fact my school is private. It's pretty damn hard to argue the rules since they just ignore our complaints.

I think students need a Union. Only if we could take legal action, then schools would soon fear our wrath.

It's actually because of legal action, and the fear of it, that such stupid rules are created in the first place.

If schools weren't held liable for students choosing to walk off school grounds during school time and getting injured or killed, there would probably be fewer rules about leaving the classroom etc.

But if a teacher or a principal is going to be held liable for a student who is truant, then they have a right to protect themselves by enforcing rules that may be restrictive or silly.

[Straka]

It's so bad here in Australia that some students have stopped calling it an 'education system' entirely. A kid at my school was bullied and then told by the teacher that "we can't punish them unless we catch them in the act". A friend of mine was recently suspended from school for four days for posting a negative review of the school on his blog - though there was no evidence connecting him to the blog, he is an outspoken proponent of student's rights inside the school community, the principal, vice principal and deputy vice principal all told him that they can, and will convict on circumstantial evidence. Like his views. Views shared by many.

Before you cite certain amendments, remember that this is Australia, and we are the only western country (to my knowledge) that doesn't have the freedom of speech.

[Durmatagno]

My school doesn't allow facial hair. I've always wanted a goatee...

I think my school's rules are a bit worse compared to others usually due to the fact my school is private. It's pretty damn hard to argue the rules since they just ignore our complaints.

I think students need a Union. Only if we could take legal action, then schools would soon fear our wrath.

It's actually because of legal action, and the fear of it, that such stupid rules are created in the first place.

If schools weren't held liable for students choosing to walk off school grounds during school time and getting injured or killed, there would probably be fewer rules about leaving the classroom etc.

But if a teacher or a principal is going to be held liable for a student who is truant, then they have a right to protect themselves by enforcing rules that may be restrictive or silly.

Whats stupid is that most schools can suspend or expel students for complaining about the rules, on the internet, from home, and they hate NS. I'm lucky enough to have it at school thanks to my uncle working on the SWAT team, this leads to him knowing the best lawyer in the area who got the judge to rule NS couldn't be blocked. (All for FREE)

Good things

Free reign on music, about 95% of the time we can be listening to music, so long as one ear can hear.

[Meowfoundland]

My school suspended someone for consistently wearing the wrong colour socks. Apparently it reflects badly on the school to wear purple instead of navy.

[Genivaria]

My school suspended someone for consistently wearing the wrong colour socks. Apparently it reflects badly on the school to wear purple instead of navy.

Fuckin Ballas.

[Saint Jade IV]

It's so bad here in Australia that some students have stopped calling it an 'education system' entirely. A kid at my school was bullied and then told by the teacher that "we can't punish them unless we catch them in the act". A friend of mine was recently suspended from school for four days for posting a negative review of the school on his blog - though there was no evidence connecting him to the blog, he is an outspoken proponent of student's rights inside the school community, the principal, vice principal and deputy vice principal all told him that they can, and will convict on circumstantial evidence. Like his views. Views shared by many.

Before you cite certain amendments, remember that this is Australia, and we are the only western country (to my knowledge) that doesn't have the freedom of speech.

You know what happens in the real world if you bitch about the company you work for online? You get fired.

There are reasons for most of the rules that are in place in Australian schools. Maybe you should investigate. Look at teachers' union websites, look at legal decisions against teachers and schools, and maybe consider that a lot of those rules are in place for your protection, not just because "the school is out to get me."

And there are many Western countries without freedom of speech. You might need to actually educate yourself before complaining.

[Durmatagno]

It's so bad here in Australia that some students have stopped calling it an 'education system' entirely. A kid at my school was bullied and then told by the teacher that "we can't punish them unless we catch them in the act". A friend of mine was recently suspended from school for four days for posting a negative review of the school on his blog - though there was no evidence connecting him to the blog, he is an outspoken proponent of student's rights inside the school community, the principal, vice principal and deputy vice principal all told him that they can, and will convict on circumstantial evidence. Like his views. Views shared by many.

Before you cite certain amendments, remember that this is Australia, and we are the only western country (to my knowledge) that doesn't have the freedom of speech.

You know what happens in the real world if you bitch about the company you work for online? You get fired.

There are reasons for most of the rules that are in place in Australian schools. Maybe you should investigate. Look at teachers' union websites, look at legal decisions against teachers and schools, and maybe consider that a lot of those rules are in place for your protection, not just because "the school is out to get me."

And there are many Western countries without freedom of speech. You might need to actually educate yourself before complaining.

He did say to my knowledge, and if your posting like I'm doing now, that means there tracking your IP and every word, you can't say jack-shit without them knowing. (Yeah, they know I drink lightly on weekends, so what)

[Kirrig]

It's so bad here in Australia that some students have stopped calling it an 'education system' entirely. A kid at my school was bullied and then told by the teacher that "we can't punish them unless we catch them in the act". A friend of mine was recently suspended from school for four days for posting a negative review of the school on his blog - though there was no evidence connecting him to the blog, he is an outspoken proponent of student's rights inside the school community, the principal, vice principal and deputy vice principal all told him that they can, and will convict on circumstantial evidence. Like his views. Views shared by many.

Before you cite certain amendments, remember that this is Australia, and we are the only western country (to my knowledge) that doesn't have the freedom of speech.

You know what happens in the real world if you bitch about the company you work for online? You get fired.

There are reasons for most of the rules that are in place in Australian schools. Maybe you should investigate. Look at teachers' union websites, look at legal decisions against teachers and schools, and maybe consider that a lot of those rules are in place for your protection, not just because "the school is out to get me."

And there are many Western countries without freedom of speech. You might need to actually educate yourself before complaining.

And then sue for re-instatement.

[Osgeroth]

My school has many stupid rules, guys can't have long hair or piercings, any student in the halls without a signed note gets a morning detention, if you're late for homeroom you have to sit in the office until second period and if you're late three times you get a day of alternative school, if you don't go to the lunchroom during lunch break you get a morning detention