Homophobes Are Just Uncomfortable With Being In The Closet

[Soviet Haaregrad]

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Wait. . . how do homosexuals marrying each other and adopting infringe upon your rights?

Do the children they adopt get a voice in whether they want to be adopted by fecal-philes or carpet-munchers? No, of course not and nobody knows for certain how those children may feel about it in the long run, but it's always okay to experiment with peoples' lives and futures. Don't bother with dragging up some study on the positive effects of adoption by homosexuals. Researchers can always find what they need to find when they set the parameters solely.

Do they have any voice in whether they're adopted by faggots or breeders either way? Maybe some kids who grow up gay wish they had gay parents, but that's how it goes, you can't pick your parents.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

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Wait. . . how do homosexuals marrying each other and adopting infringe upon your rights?

Do the children they adopt get a voice in whether they want to be adopted by fecal-philes or carpet-munchers? No, of course not and nobody knows for certain how those children may feel about it in the long run, but it's always okay to experiment with peoples' lives and futures. Don't bother with dragging up some study on the positive effects of adoption by homosexuals. Researchers can always find what they need to find when they set the parameters solely.

Once case where they've denied somebody with a scat fetish an adoption, please.

Also, the only difference with kids adopted by gay couples is they're more tolerant of gays. [/scientificstudies]

[Wikkiwallana]

I dont have the right to determine who my private business serves?
So when the Tories discriminated against patriotic Americans, or when patriotic Americans discriminated agianst Tories, they all should have been jailed?

I want the right to refuse service to anyone. And I will accept others right to that.

That's what's wrong with today's society. If someone doesn't like something, they sue. We ought to bring back rapier duels at dusk.

Should be dawn. People will be to hasty to do it at dusk, having to haul their ass out of bed and get ready in time for a dawn duel will make them think twice about issuing challenges willy-nilly.

[Pauper Kings]

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

There are cross-dressers who do it for arousal and plenty of discrimination against them?

Unbelievable. What's the point....

[Euronion]

not necessarily, I am comfortable around homosexuals, infact my aunt is one, as long as they don't show public display of it, they don't try and hit on a straight person, and they don't become all falmbiont and such as many people do, they also use homosexuality as an excuse, just as playing the race card, many youth feel uncomfortable around homosexuals because they do not want to be accused of being gay, I have a son and a daughter in high school, my daughter has many homosexual male friends, she pressures my son to be around them too and to be accepting but he says no because if you hang around with homosexuals you are accused of being one, we all know how harsh children can be to each other, in my opinion if they want to be racist, homophobic, ect. let them, its a free country, why should we be demonizing people for their own beliefs, leave them alone, let them be alone with their homophobic, racist, ect. ideals they have a right to believe what ever the hell they want, some people still believe the world is flat, do we domonize them? no, so leave them alone

[Terra Mariana]

Indeed we are not short of manpower. We are short of willpower.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Well put. It's beyond me how somebody could support punishing people for things out of their control.

As Ive said before, they can choose not to hold hands with the same gender, cuddle with them, have 'relations' with them. That is perfectly in their control. Hence why I believe I should be allowed to refuse service based on it.

Will you actually ever own a successful company? Your entire argument seems to be "Waa waa waa I don't want queers in my <x>".

[Mussoliniopoli]

As Ive said before, they can choose not to hold hands with the same gender, cuddle with them, have 'relations' with them. That is perfectly in their control. Hence why I believe I should be allowed to refuse service based on it.

Will you actually ever own a successful company? Your entire argument seems to be "Waa waa waa I don't want queers in my <x>".

He will probably have to work on his knees for a gay man.

[Draconian Races]

As Ive said before, they can choose not to hold hands with the same gender, cuddle with them, have 'relations' with them. That is perfectly in their control. Hence why I believe I should be allowed to refuse service based on it.

Will you actually ever own a successful company? Your entire argument seems to be "Waa waa waa I don't want queers in my <x>".

Yes, seeing as I am halfway through 2 and 3/4ths of the way through 2 Certificates in Media and web design. I already have a plan to set up my own videography/photography company.

[Wikkiwallana]

not necessarily, I am comfortable around homosexuals, infact my aunt is one, as long as they don't show public display of it, they don't try and hit on a straight person, and they don't become all falmbiont and such as many people do, they also use homosexuality as an excuse, just as playing the race card, many youth feel uncomfortable around homosexuals because they do not want to be accused of being gay, I have a son and a daughter in high school, my daughter has many homosexual male friends, she pressures my son to be around them too and to be accepting but he says no because if you hang around with homosexuals you are accused of being one, we all know how harsh children can be to each other, in my opinion if they want to be racist, homophobic, ect. let them, its a free country, why should we be demonizing people for their own beliefs, leave them alone, let them be alone with their homophobic, racist, ect. ideals they have a right to believe what ever the hell they want, some people still believe the world is flat, do we domonize them? no, so leave them alone

The problem is that these people with these beliefs do leave others alone, they go around deliberately making their lives hell. That's the whole problem. You can believe whatever you want, but you aren't allowed to fuck with other people's happiness because of your beliefs.

[Orcoa]

Hmmmm...Maybe a black crusade will make him change his mind

I have held a council with my chainaxe...it said yes.

Ok then, give me a moment I will get Abaddon on the phone..he might have a few ideas

[The Corparation]

You said it

And as Ive already said, my interests lie.. elsewhere

Sheep, I presume?

Noooo!!! He'll go after Blaat. We can't have the only sheep on general being sodomized by Draconian Races. or anyone else for that matter. He's just a poor innocent sheep.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Will you actually ever own a successful company? Your entire argument seems to be "Waa waa waa I don't want queers in my <x>".

Yes, seeing as I am halfway through 2 and 3/4ths of the way through 2 Certificates in Media and web design. I already have a plan to set up my own videography/photography company.

So for something that may or may not be successful, you hate an entire group of people?

>mfw
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[The Nuclear Fist]

Do the children they adopt get a voice in whether they want to be adopted by fecal-philes or carpet-munchers? No, of course not and nobody knows for certain how those children may feel about it in the long run, but it's always okay to experiment with peoples' lives and futures. Don't bother with dragging up some study on the positive effects of adoption by homosexuals. Researchers can always find what they need to find when they set the parameters solely.

Actually, yes. The orphanage I was adopted from gave the children a right to refuse to be adopted by people they didn't like. The same thing can be applied to anyone.

And I shouldn't bring up a study that shows that being adopted by a homosexual couple has no negative side effects? Even though there have been dozens of them?

To me, that sounds like:

Don't bother bringing up evidence that shows that my hatred for homosexuals and denial to allow them basic civil rights is unfounded and immature, because obviously anything that disagrees with my world view is biased and pure propaganda.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Sheep, I presume?

Noooo!!! He'll go after Blaat. We can't have the only sheep on general being sodomized by Draconian Races. or anyone else for that matter. He's just a poor innocent sheep.

But we let Welshmen and Kiwis post, we're really just not a safe place for sheep who aren't looking for sodomy.

[Euronion]

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

I agree, I do think it is disgusting for males though, females I have no problem with, you know what is ironic, is the people who make topics like this say they are accepting , yet they cannot, do not, accept that disagree with their views, for the people that think it is a cycological issue where you completely diagree or are disgusted by something, and end upliking it, I would hate to eat feces,eating feces are sick wrong and disgusting, does that mean that anyone who thinks eating feces is sick wrong and disgusting, secretly like feces? if that is the case then it appears almost everyone on Earth loves feces

[Coffee Cakes]

Here were my 2 questions for you Drac.

But mental disorders and geniuses and social misfits were all mentioned, and I was pointing out that yes, mental disorders go against what I believe to be the natural human order.

So because I have a disorder I go against the "natural order"?

ADHD, Asperger's, schizophrenia, etc. can be corrected or should be punished?

[Gawdzendia]

*reads entire thread while at work, thanks several gods it's after hours and that it's normal for the IT personnel to just look like zombie's infront of a PC*

*sips cold coffee*

Well... doesn't this just rustle my jimmies.

Very interesting read so far. I'm glad I have enough gay friends to legally not be homophobic.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Depends. If said fetish helps their straight sexual relations, then no it isnt evil.

Oh dear. You seem to think that sexuality is a two-sided thing.

It's not. There are many, many sexualities. The fetish I am referring to is not heterosexual. These people are not attracted to other people. They are attracted to clothing. They don't fuck people. So they're not straight, bisexual, or gay.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

I agree, I do think it is disgusting for males though, females I have no problem with, you know what is ironic, is the people who make topics like this say they are accepting , yet they cannot, do not, accept that disagree with their views

How dare they not accept intolerance.

So why's it okay for women but not men? If you like lesbians I should introduce you to my ex's mom and her gf... you'll never wanna fap to lesbians again.

[Hittanryan]

If I may, before Draconian Races really goes off the rails again, in a thread concerning TVTropes, Draconian Races identified himself as a Knight Templar. Now, he may have been going for the Crusade-era knightly order, but either does not appear to understand the trope, or is dropping a subtle hint that he is a Poe.

In TVTropes terminology, a Knight Templar is a villain convinced of his own righteousness. This is what happens when a character that believes himself to be good gets blinded by his own ideals. Paraphrasing the trope page, the forces of light get too hardcore, and this extreme interpretation becomes tyranny. Knights Templar act completely without restraint, remorse, or mercy when dealing with those they consider "evil." They also tend to consider all crimes to be equal, and hand out ludicrously disproportionate punishments.

You also cannot reason with a Knight Templar. He is 100% certain he is "good," and should anyone disagree with him, it is the work of whatever evil powers he believes in. No matter what kind of horrific actions the Templar advocates or undertakes, those actions are good because he is good. They cannot fathom that a genuinely good, sensible person would oppose them.

Now, consider Draconian Races' ideals. I see two options:

1. He has unwittingly called himself evil by misunderstanding the trope, yet still provided a disturbingly accurate description of his prevailing attitudes. I do not think any sane person would identify themselves as being a Knight Templar, least of all an actual Knight Templar, who would argue they are "right," justified, and perfect.
OR
2. He is giving us a hint that he realizes what he advocates and what he stands for is fundamentally wrong. Which it is, if you're not a Knight Templar. He may be a troll getting tired of the masquerade, or a Poe trying to discredit actual homophobes.

Either way, it is time to stop giving him so much attention.

[Wikkiwallana]

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

I agree, I do think it is disgusting for males though, females I have no problem with, you know what is ironic, is the people who make topics like this say they are accepting , yet they cannot, do not, accept that disagree with their views

No what's ironic is you don't see the hypocrisy in your own post.

[Maxen von Bismarck]

not necessarily, I am comfortable around homosexuals, infact my aunt is one, as long as they don't show public display of it, they don't try and hit on a straight person, and they don't become all falmbiont and such as many people do, they also use homosexuality as an excuse, just as playing the race card, many youth feel uncomfortable around homosexuals because they do not want to be accused of being gay, I have a son and a daughter in high school, my daughter has many homosexual male friends, she pressures my son to be around them too and to be accepting but he says no because if you hang around with homosexuals you are accused of being one, we all know how harsh children can be to each other, in my opinion if they want to be racist, homophobic, ect. let them, its a free country, why should we be demonizing people for their own beliefs, leave them alone, let them be alone with their homophobic, racist, ect. ideals they have a right to believe what ever the hell they want, some people still believe the world is flat, do we domonize them? no, so leave them alone

The problem is that these people with these beliefs do leave others alone, they go around deliberately making their lives hell. That's the whole problem. You can believe whatever you want, but you aren't allowed to fuck with other people's happiness because of your beliefs.

So to stop the hate, we have to hate back?

Yay, I always loved races to the bottom.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

If I may, before Draconian Races really goes off the rails again, in a thread concerning TVTropes, Draconian Races identified himself as a Knight Templar. Now, he may have been going for the Crusade-era knightly order, but either does not appear to understand the trope, or is dropping a subtle hint that he is a Poe.

In TVTropes terminology, a Knight Templar is a villain convinced of his own righteousness. This is what happens when a character that believes himself to be good gets blinded by his own ideals. Paraphrasing the trope page, the forces of light get too hardcore, and this extreme interpretation becomes tyranny. Knights Templar act completely without restraint, remorse, or mercy when dealing with those they consider "evil." They also tend to consider all crimes to be equal, and hand out ludicrously disproportionate punishments.

You also cannot reason with a Knight Templar. He is 100% certain he is "good," and should anyone disagree with him, it is the work of whatever evil powers he believes in. No matter what kind of horrific actions the Templar advocates or undertakes, those actions are good because he is good. They cannot fathom that a good, sensible person would oppose them.

Now, consider Draconian Races' ideals. I see two options:

1. He has unwittingly called himself evil by misunderstanding the trope, yet still provided a disturbingly accurate description of his prevailing attitudes. I do not think any sane person would identify themselves as being a Knight Templar, least of all an actual Knight Templar, who would argue they are "right," justified, and perfect.
OR
2. He is giving us a hint that he realizes what he advocates and what he stands for is fundamentally wrong. Which it is, if you're not a Knight Templar.

Most people already think he's a poe/troll, though. We just like to argue. :3

[Mussoliniopoli]

If I may, before Draconian Races really goes off the rails again, in a thread concerning TVTropes, Draconian Races identified himself as a Knight Templar. Now, he may have been going for the Crusade-era knightly order, but either does not appear to understand the trope, or is dropping a subtle hint that he is a Poe.

In TVTropes terminology, a Knight Templar is a villain convinced of his own righteousness. This is what happens when a character that believes himself to be good gets blinded by his own ideals. Paraphrasing the trope page, the forces of light get too hardcore, and this extreme interpretation becomes tyranny. Knights Templar act completely without restraint, remorse, or mercy when dealing with those they consider "evil." They also tend to consider all crimes to be equal, and hand out ludicrously disproportionate punishments.

You also cannot reason with a Knight Templar. He is 100% certain he is "good," and should anyone disagree with him, it is the work of whatever evil powers he believes in. No matter what kind of horrific actions the Templar advocates or undertakes, those actions are good because he is good. They cannot fathom that a good, sensible person would oppose them.

Now, consider Draconian Races' ideals. I see two options:

1. He has unwittingly called himself evil by misunderstanding the trope, yet still provided a disturbingly accurate description of his prevailing attitudes. I do not think any sane person would identify themselves as being a Knight Templar, least of all an actual Knight Templar, who would argue they are "right," justified, and perfect.
OR
2. He is giving us a hint that he realizes what he advocates and what he stands for is fundamentally wrong. Which it is, if you're not a Knight Templar.

Most people already think he's a poe/troll, though. We just like to argue. :3

Indeed, no one actually takes him seriously.